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Long novel post - AIBU to think he’s creepy/potentially abusive etc

165 replies

aibusugardaddy · 21/05/2021 17:24

Sorry that this will be so long ( TLDR; Too Long Didnt read will be at bottom) ...

I'm not a mum, i'm 22 ( nearly was going to be a mum last year but thats a different story...), I don't know any women between 40-50 RL to ask, preferring answers from this age range although anyone can answer yabu or yanbu..

So i've kinda got a sugar daddy, 51 ( free to have an opinion, but I don't need judgements on this, if you do judge, best to not answer or only answer if you can separate judgement from my question)

i've been seeing him for a year, not a well off sugar daddy, he’s bought me a cheap car though, don’t care much that’s he’s not well off since I only do SW on/off now+last year covid slow business...

Last year he said he's had trouble on dating sites after saying hes got 3 baby mums and 4 kids.... anyway he explained the situation regarding his babymums/kids to me...

His first baby mum was crazy and alocholic and it lasted five years, daughter warned up to him when she turned 18 but he only sees her once a year and only contacts occasionally because he doesn’t want to bother her much.

Second baby mum was alcoholic, left the twins with him and ran off, came back eventually but with police, demanding the kids come live with her...he said as law favours kids being with mum he didn’t have a chance...

Third baby mum..... wasn’t a alcoholic but one day he woke up and she was gone with their daughter, doesn’t know where they are to this day.

The third baby mum story raised my suspicions of something seeming off ....

Eventually ( this year)... he told me all his baby mums were 16/17 when he met them while he was between 24-38..... this was when I thought “ creep“
...after this he was a with a girl for 10 years he was 40 she was 20 but she was sexually assaulted when younger so she’s bipolar and suffered panic attacks constantly for the 10 years....then he had a one night stand with a 20 year old who was drunk, then he met me.

As I said I don’t know women RL who are between 40-50 to ask, but I do know men that age RL to ask ( not sex work related btw but can’t do into details as how i know these guys).... to my surprise they don’t think he’s creepy or a peado or whatever, they think maybe because of 3 baby mum he’s shit at choosing partners and/or he’s not emotionally mature for his age/basically has a younger mindset....
and that if they were him they wouldn’t have gotten with girls that young because girls that age want to go out and not settle down....

I can’t shake that I think somethings not right with him at all......to me it sounds off and creepy....but things maybe were different 20-30 years ago? maybe it was normal for 20-30 year olds to date 16/17 year olds...and maybe i’m thinking too harshly, maybe he isn’t potentially abusive etc... maybe he has been unlucky? that’s why I prefer answers off women 40-50yos as he’s 51 and dated these teens 20-30 years ago

He’s tried to date me seriously but i’ve been straight and said I want to stick to the arrangement... he seems okay generally, only other thing he keeps saying he’s stopped looking on AW etc bc of me, but i’ve found out he’s tried to see escorts recently ( I don’t care, still lying though)

So...mumsnet aibu or not?

OP posts:
ChairmansReserve · 22/05/2021 13:28

i've been seeing him for a year, not a well off sugar daddy

You've literally failed the one and only reason to have a 'sugar daddy'.

DinaofCloud9 · 22/05/2021 14:12

Twins
Baby Mamas
A Sugar Daddy who actually isn't as he has no money.
Feminists who use the term baby mamas

This thread is interesting.

Londonnight · 22/05/2021 14:22

I hate the term "baby mum" They are the child's mother and he is the father. It very much seems he took advantage of these women when they were very young.

You need to get out of this "relationship"

eatsleepread · 22/05/2021 15:36

Right. So all the mothers of his children were nutters who just happened to take his kids away from him?
How very convenient Confused

OP: run!

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 22/05/2021 19:06

Saw the Hermès bag comment OP. Jesus wept.

Meowchickameowmeow · 22/05/2021 19:23

I didn't get past baby mums...blech.

headintheproverbial · 22/05/2021 19:25

Run for the hills OP.

Namechange1067949 · 23/05/2021 21:32

@aibusugardaddy @Namechange1067949 no just needed validation that he is actually creepy ive said ive spoken to guys his age irl about it and they don't midn him creepy i thought i must be mad...

But consider the source? Who are all these older men that are hanging around with a younger woman?- particularly one that sounds possibly a little bit vulnerable?

It’s honestly really worrying that you would consider taking the word of these older men (who clearly have questionable judgement) over your own instincts.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/05/2021 22:03

You're asking men who are as sleazy as fuck whether another man just like them is sleazy as fuck, and you're surprised they're claiming he's just fine? For the record, yes, he is a sleazy creep.

Deathgrip · 23/05/2021 22:14

He’s repeatedly impregnated women who are barely past the age of consent, he has stories about how they’re all crazy, and now he’s 51 dating a 22 year old

What do you think OP? And why am I not surprised men see nothing wrong with it?

Blossomplease6 · 23/05/2021 23:41

Why can’t you hold down a job? This seems very relevant

IvyM · 30/05/2021 00:08

Firstly it sounds like he's too poor to be a sugar daddy, secondly it sounds like he's trying to be "your boyfriend" to get away from having to pay for you. That's the oldest trick in the book "I have real feelings for you, surely I don't have to pay".
He also sounds like the type that pick their prey among a vulnerable segment of the female population, as they're easier to emotionally and physically abuse.
The line of work you're in can be very dangerous if you don't go for the very well off, very busy, "respectable men" and this guy sounds not just creepy, but dangerous. I'd run like the wind if I were you.

Embracingthechaos · 30/05/2021 03:38

I don't know if you're still reading OP, but if you are:

Be VERY warey of any man who has a long line of "crazy" ex partners. Especially when they have children with several of them. He is the common denominator in all of these relationships. So he's either choosing to associate and have children with horrible people, or he's a liar. Neither is great.

JemimaJoy · 30/05/2021 04:27

He's disgusting. The whole situation is disgusting. He's definitely lying to you about his exes too. Wise up. Are you really going to believe the classic 'my exes are crazy alcoholics and THATS why I'm a shit deadbeat dad, and not because I'm too busy off trying to buy young women to date me."

JemimaJoy · 30/05/2021 04:29

@HollowTalk

So basically you're saying this bloke who. if you remove murderers, rapists, armed robbers and paedophiles from the equation, is at the bottom of the pile of men any woman should go near, fancies you but you don't know whether to go out with him? Is that the question?
IDK, I think I'd chose an armed robber over this guy. 😂

An armed robber could be stealing to feed his kids or something. This guy is just a disgusting pervert/teetering on the border of rapist/paedophile.

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