To think this utter madness- child benefit

[stopthebloodylights]

A couple In Ireland have had quads...Irish child benefits is not means tested AND if you have twins you get 1.5 per child BUT if you have other multiples you get DOUBLE the amount so this couple are taking in 140 x 2 PER CHILD!! That's 1120 in child benefits per month!! 🤣🤣🤣

They will need every penny, it is very reasonable.

It’s not going to be enough - with 4 babies to care for, one if not both parents will have to quit work for the long term. 1120 per month is less than one average UK salary. And if like most you g couples they don’t own a home, they are going to need way more than 1k in benefits.
Honestly I feel so sorry for the parents and the struggle they will have to go through.

@ThisIsStartingToBoreMe

The Irish have always had generous child benefit payments. It's one of the reasons why 4 kids is considered a small family in Ireland.

4 kids is very much not considered a small family in Ireland.

Unless you’re posting from the 1950s?

[quote stopthebloodylights]@Moondust001 I can see why you would think I'm back tracking...my title wasn't phrased right at all..I agree. And no amount of me insisting that I wasn't begrudging is obviously going to convince ppl. But I know my intentions and my feelings and it's certainly not what I think. [/quote]
What did you mean by “this is utter madness” then?

@RickiTarr utter madness that the U.K. doesn't do similar

I do not see an issue with this being a legitimate thread. There is a discussion to be had in any system that pays people because they had babies. Against payment is environmental, ethical and economic reasons. For payment is ethical, economic and social reasons.

People who try to shut down discussion are normally the first to whinge about their freedom and rights. And general one sided 'wokery'.

[quote stopthebloodylights]@RickiTarr utter madness that the U.K. doesn't do similar [/quote]
OP come on. You know as well as everyone else here you wanted a dig and didn't get the responses you wanted.
Just own it - you look like an idiot if you keep up these nonsense excuses.

@MyOctopusFeature

I do not see an issue with this being a legitimate thread. There is a discussion to be had in any system that pays people because they had babies. Against payment is environmental, ethical and economic reasons. For payment is ethical, economic and social reasons.

People who try to shut down discussion are normally the first to whinge about their freedom and rights. And general one sided 'wokery'.

Maybe I've missed a post but I don't think anyone is saying this isn't a valid conversation, only that OP has backtracked her stance on it.

@ThisIsStartingToBoreMe

The Irish have always had generous child benefit payments. It's one of the reasons why 4 kids is considered a small family in Ireland.

I don't know anyone at all who considers four children to be a small family here. Not at all. I mean, that possibly was the case going back to when my parents were children, but that was certainly more to do with the unavailability of contraception than the 'generous' child benefit.

Not even going to start on the implication that Irish people are so stupid and/or greedy that we just keep having kids for the child benefit .

[quote stopthebloodylights]@RickiTarr utter madness that the U.K. doesn't do similar [/quote]
Yeah. You do seem to have missed quite a few words there.

Do you not get the 'no passing down' with multiples??? Everything has to be bought at the same time!
4 cots
4 high chairs
4 car seats for each stage
4x the amount of nappies
4x the amount of childcare
A car that will allow for 4 car seats to be used safely, plus parents
4 of everything at once as they grow ... no hand me downs

[quote stopthebloodylights]@RickiTarr utter madness that the U.K. doesn't do similar [/quote]
Eek OP you need to stop backtracking - you clearly didn't mean it this way. It's no biggie that the thread didn't go the way you thought it would - happens all the time on MN - but you look a bit silly trying to claim you meant something different!

Children get free gp care up to a certain age in Ireland but we have to pay for the medicines . Quads are expensive especially all the equipment you have to get and childcare is very expensive here too . I'm glad we have this kind of support for parents .

Not even going to start on the implication that Irish people are so stupid and/or greedy that we just keep having kids for the child benefit hmm.

I'm sure they don't - thats why I said it's one of the reasons.

And the money doesn't hurt either.

Comparing apples and oranges there OP. Ireland is expensive and more power to them, they'll need that cash.

I'm sure they don't - thats why I said it's one of the reasons

It’s one of the reasons for something that isn’t true? Ok then 👍

It's for the children. Not for the parents.

you get more than that for 4 kids in Germany I think, or pretty close.

@ThisIsStartingToBoreMe

Not even going to start on the implication that Irish people are so stupid and/or greedy that we just keep having kids for the child benefit hmm.

I'm sure they don't - thats why I said it's one of the reasons.

And the money doesn't hurt either.

So 'I didn't say that... But I'm going to say it again in a slightly more roundabout manner'. Okay.

Sounds thoroughly sensible and fair to me.

It's not as though the Irish government has deliberately put a policy in place to help with the obvious huge challenges faced with multiple births and then suddenly been outraged and shocked when parents of multiple babies actually claim it.

Hahahahahahahsha nice attempt at backtracking there OP.

‘Didn’t finish the title’ 😂😂😂

@Geraldinethegiraffe

It’s not going to be enough - with 4 babies to care for, one if not both parents will have to quit work for the long term. 1120 per month is less than one average UK salary. And if like most you g couples they don’t own a home, they are going to need way more than 1k in benefits. Honestly I feel so sorry for the parents and the struggle they will have to go through.

They will also get €300 per child per month in Universal Credit, plus €400 per month if both adults are unable to work and their rent paid. So thankfully the €1120 won't be their only benefits.

Also, child benefit is paid 4 weekly so the monthly amount will be marginally more but not by much

@waitingforthenextseason

Do you not get the 'no passing down' with multiples??? Everything has to be bought at the same time! 4 cots 4 high chairs 4 car seats for each stage 4x the amount of nappies 4x the amount of childcare A car that will allow for 4 car seats to be used safely, plus parents 4 of everything at once as they grow ... no hand me downs

There are many things you can't pass down between other close in age siblings either. Many children are in cots for two or more years, DS was in his birth to four car seat for five years. Multiple items are not exclusive to multiple births.

@Geraldinethegiraffe

It’s not going to be enough - with 4 babies to care for, one if not both parents will have to quit work for the long term. 1120 per month is less than one average UK salary. And if like most you g couples they don’t own a home, they are going to need way more than 1k in benefits. Honestly I feel so sorry for the parents and the struggle they will have to go through.

Forgive me, the amount per adult (whether in a couple or not) is €800 per month each

Seems very generous..