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My 16yo DS and his girlfriend (Part 3)

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workworkworkugh · 14/05/2021 22:24

Link to part 2:

My 16yo DS and his girlfriend (Part 2) http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4223467-my-16yo-ds-and-his-girlfriend-part-2

Someone recommended I start another thread. I was a bit hesitant to do so I will admit.
I truly thought this would have been over in January, but here we are Confused

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DFOD · 29/10/2021 13:42

@Mummyratbag

She and her horrid family are holding your son and all of you hostage now with the threat of what she is likely to do to herself or him if he walks away.

I do wonder what it is she has ultimately threatened. Revenge porn? Threats of destroying his reputation? Saying she didn't consent to sex? I'm sure this has been discussed upthread somewhere, but can you ask him bluntly what it is he is scared of? Can he write it down if he can't say it?

I think that this is very relevant - but I think that these difficult / sensitive conversations need to be had between the DS and a safe guarding professional or another more neutral adult in order for him to open up and engage in a constructive dialogue as he sees the OP and her DH as too close to the emotion and has said begged repeatedly not to go to her DPs. For him this is a perceived threat where all hell breaks loose and he is in for more emotional violence.

I feel really sorry for you all that this abuse and histrionics has come into your home and is overshadowing your lives.

workworkworkugh · 29/10/2021 13:56

@DFOD we didn't go. We cancelled.

You're right tho, him getting stirred up into a row with us is distracting him from her behaviour.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/10/2021 13:56

I've just caught up with this again after losing it for weeks - so sorry he's still caught up with this utter loon.

I have zero sympathy for her. She treats him like a pet - he must be loyal to her, and only her. He is not to have anything for himself or by himself - she must have complete control over him and his life.

ANYONE "competing" with her (you, the female teacher) as support for him must be eliminated or "beaten" - hence the note with her gift. A gold chain, in this instance, is highly symbolic of the hold she has on him.

I am sorry for him. VERY. I do not see how he will be able to extricate himself yet because she still has too much pull, too much influence, and he still worries too much about what she will do to him, and to herself.

I have no doubt that she threatened him if he went out for dinner for his birthday with his family - how that would be disloyal because she couldn't be there, so unfair, he's choosing you over her (despite the quarantine - of COURSE he should be sitting in his room pining for her, not going out and having a good time without her, how dreadful that would be! Hmm).

I'm appalled at the school for replying to the abusive witch in an email - how bloody dare they include her! they are now complicit in the abuse, by accepting her power over him. I would tell them this, too!
I don't know if you are able to go into the school yourself - bloody lockdowns and covid are making it all very difficult at the moment - but in all honesty, I would try. Try to see his principal, or head of year, or at least a senior teacher who knows him and show them the text messages. Show them the attitude she has, and that she believes she has more responsibility for your son than YOU do.

I know that there is a lot of weirdness going on in schools over here at the moment in certain situations, but even so, they can NOT take HER word for anything over yours - that's just hugely negligent of them.
The school counsellor also needs a bloody good kick up the arse for even SUGGESTING that That Girl should have sat in on ANY chats with you and your son about his future - that's basically GIVING her the feeling that she has rights over him and his future, what an almighty fuck up that is!!

Your son is also likely to have reacted badly to having opened up to you in any way - he doesn't want you to know how bad things are, really, because he is probably in that teenage state of knowing that he's fucked things up royally but he can't POSSIBLY get his parents to deal with it for him because he's too old for that! He's not, of course, but that's how the teenage brain functions.

Hold the line - you're still doing the right thing with parenting him in terms of his behaviour towards you but also reassuring him at all times that you do love him and will have his back, and have HIM back, any time he wants.

And do not reply to any communications from ANY of her family. They're all crazy, or colluding with the crazy, and should be thoroughly ignored.

Hightechlowbudget · 29/10/2021 13:56

I have been following this thread and my heart goes out to you all. I can't imagine how stressful it must be for you but I think you are amazing to have withstood so much for so long.

I feel like DFOD is hitting the nail on the head every time, but could I suggest a couple of things.

They clearly love getting to you, can you close down the access. Come off Facebook etc. Block them in the phone, you really don't need to see their shit and it clearly fuels them. Shut it down!

If your son is miserable have you tried telling him can change the situation, he doesn't have to put up with it and that you will support and protect him every step of the way. The references to grooming are very real and I worry where it will lead as GF seems to have some kind of PD. Can you let him know he has a way out if he wants it?

Also forget the birthday, let her have it, he will have others when he is free of her.

Good luck and stay strong

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/10/2021 14:01

@Mummyratbag

She and her horrid family are holding your son and all of you hostage now with the threat of what she is likely to do to herself or him if he walks away.

I do wonder what it is she has ultimately threatened. Revenge porn? Threats of destroying his reputation? Saying she didn't consent to sex? I'm sure this has been discussed upthread somewhere, but can you ask him bluntly what it is he is scared of? Can he write it down if he can't say it?

Yes! hostage situation is exactly what this is.

It's all about the power to her.

I could honestly cry for you all.

SmurfetteBlue · 29/10/2021 14:02

Could you maybe suggest taking him out for a meal, but say that nobody will mention it to the girlfriend? If she's isolating then she wouldn't know? Unless she's the type to video call to check where he is (which I suspect is very likely). I feel for you OP x

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madmumofteens · 29/10/2021 14:18

I am so sorry to hear that the birthday dinner didn't go ahead! I am so angry on your behalf that she managed to manipulate him not to go it's your and your family's day too to celebrate 🥺 I really hope that he wakes up soon to her and her so called parents!! Keep the faith OP ❤️ 💐

Peridot1 · 29/10/2021 14:24

So what are you doing for dinner? Is it too late to cook his favourite dinner or order a pizza and just have a chilled family night with a movie or games or whatever?

Just a gentle pressure off nice fun family evening that celebrates him.

I would have a quick chat and suggest it and say you are sorry he is going through such a hard time but that you love him and always will, don’t want to put any extra pressure on him but want to celebrate one of the best days and happiest days of your life.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/10/2021 14:32

@Peridot1 - yes, it's much too late, depending on which state OP is in. I'm in NSW and it's currently half past midnight. Even on the edge of the Western coast, in WA, it would still be 9:30pm, but since WA isn't in lockdown, she's not likely to be in that state. Other states are much nearer to, or the same as, NSW time.

Peridot1 · 29/10/2021 14:38

I thought that @ThumbWitchesAbroad. Thanks! I should have realised as my zoom calls with my Oz friends are always early morning here for me at this time of year.

itsgettingwierd · 29/10/2021 15:01

@workworkworkugh

About 10 of the mother and DS together, including some of them posing (with GF as well) in the mirror sticking their bums out and pouting. You know, because she's so fun and cool and he's her 'partner in crime' and they 'laugh until they cry' together and have car rides and d&m's together (yes I'm jealous Sad)

Anyway, he's refused at the last minute to come for dinner as she's got mad at him as she was going to take him out for dinner and we've 'taken over her plans' apparently. Not anyone's fault she's in quarantine.

I also heard her laughing and then getting mad at the presents we bought him and then crying at him.

We don't want to leave him alone on his birthday, so we're staying home but he's gone for a walk.

I fucking hate her.

Oh my that's awful AngrySad

She's such a deluded wee soul and has somehow manage to bring your ds into her deluded world very clearly asides by her deluded mother.

Don't be jealous of her. Don't be jealous if the woman who's life is basically selfies with teens.

It's good ds went for a walk. It means he needs time to think which means he's clearly thinking.

ImSoMagical · 29/10/2021 15:37

I can't believe the way this girl is acting! What an awful situation for you all.

BlackAlys · 29/10/2021 16:33

@workworkworkugh

Last year I bought DS a necklace (that he chose) but it was only gold plated. This year she bought him one and included this note...
Fuck. I hate armchair diagnoses that we often see on Mumsnet, but this girl is showing some psychopathic tendencies.
mumofone2019 · 29/10/2021 16:49

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RandomMess · 29/10/2021 17:23
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DFOD · 29/10/2021 20:24

@Pumpkinsondisplay

I am not sure even a professional would be able to diagnose her... Past the point of no return I imagine.... When my ds had a not half way as bad gf but similar... he had a breakdown and needed a mh team. Be prepared op... He did dump her eventually.. About 2 years ago now.. A few months ago she sent me flowers asking if we could be friends... I binned and ignored.. I never told ds...
I hope that your DS has recovered now @Pumpkinsondisplay.

There is so much emotional damage going on here - the DS, the OP, her DH and his siblings. I am sure even the extended family and friends are distressed to have lost him and are confused, hurt and disappointed in him and for him.

Lasair · 29/10/2021 20:31

Also don’t you think it’s beyond creepy that she is competing with his mum? I don’t loose baby… gross!!! She is really messed up. Op I really feel for yiu

DFOD · 29/10/2021 20:45

Imagine a 50 year old man posting 35 photos of his sons teenage girlfriend - and a long gushing post on FB with about 10 of the man and the teenage girl together, including some of them posing (with BF as well) in the mirror sticking their bums out and pouting.
You know, because he’s so fun and cool and she's his 'partner in crime' and they 'laugh until they cry' together and have car rides and d&m's together.

Just because the genders are reversed the impact on him should not be minimised. The mother is grooming him (maybe not for sexual purposes) but to exploit and manipulate him. It’s hard to see where the GF ends and the M starts.

You need to go after this woman she is so out of order - I would report it to the school to investigate.

BlackAlys · 29/10/2021 23:30

@DFOD

Imagine a 50 year old man posting 35 photos of his sons teenage girlfriend - and a long gushing post on FB with about 10 of the man and the teenage girl together, including some of them posing (with BF as well) in the mirror sticking their bums out and pouting. You know, because he’s so fun and cool and she's his 'partner in crime' and they 'laugh until they cry' together and have car rides and d&m's together.

Just because the genders are reversed the impact on him should not be minimised. The mother is grooming him (maybe not for sexual purposes) but to exploit and manipulate him. It’s hard to see where the GF ends and the M starts.

You need to go after this woman she is so out of order - I would report it to the school to investigate.

100% this. It's grim reading but it's unnatural and obsessive in someone else's child.
Unmerited · 30/10/2021 00:52

Hmm, the mum wasn’t coming across as great before but this is actually quite worrying.

BetsyBigNose · 30/10/2021 01:09

I've been following your situation, as it reminds me so much of a relationship I was trapped in for a year when I was 15/16, with a horribly controlling boyfriend. Your DS is lucky to have you and your DH on his Team (whether he wants to believe it or not at the moment). My DM was a patient in a Psychiatric Unit and my DDad worked away in the week, so I was left to look after my DSis who was 13, and to deal with this "boyfriend", all by myself.

What eventually 'woke me up' and convinced me to end the relationship was my DSis asking me what I'd do if the same was happening to her. It suddenly hit home. It took several attempts for me to be properly free of him (he'd turn up sobbing in my garden, post pages and pages of letters through my door, throw stones at my bedroom window in the middle of the night - knowing there was no adult there to step in), but I did it. Your son will too.

Just as an aside - I've never been so 'happy' to hear that someone has been a close Covid contact until I read your post @workworkworkugh!

Doublevodka · 30/10/2021 10:14

Hi OP, I’ve just read this whole thread, I feel so sorry for you and your family. Hang in there, I’m really hoping that you update us at some point to say their relationship has finally ended. That girl is completely batshit.

Mulhollandmagoo · 30/10/2021 16:15

That note Shock what a nasty piece of work she is, and the over emotional Facebook post from her mum is highly inappropriate too.

I hope you're OK OP Flowers

Lockdownbear · 30/10/2021 16:39

@DFOD I certainly hadn't thought about it that way. But yes if a man was to post so many pictures of his sons GF people would be asking questions.

Op maybe your DH should post a load of photos of the GF, play them at their own game - freak them out!

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