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AIBU?

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AIBU with my demands from DH?

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Scramblerr · 14/05/2021 13:31

DH and I have one DS - we've always known we want more than one DC. The first pregnancy was horrendous. I was hospitalised from eight weeks through until I was induced at 39 weeks. I was unbelievably sick, I thought I was going to die and considered abortion multiple times - I was so relieved when I went past 24 weeks and knew I could no longer make that decision (because I knew I'd regret it), I was pretty close to considering suicide. I had HG so was sick all day every day, right up to the end (even in labour), I began fainting and collapsing and had horrendous pains etc.
Skip ahead a few years and we knew we wanted another DC but also knew we weren't going to do the pregnancy thing again - it was the worst thing that either of us have been through. We applied to adopt and were rejected (like the vast majority of people are - there were six of us at our training sessions and all have now been rejected). The adoption agency had issues with our age (in our mid/late 20s so not young parents really but VERY young for adopters because most people who adopt are much older), they didn't like that DH would be taking the parental leave instead of me (simply because I earn more and I enjoy my job more and DH's job has better parental leave allowance), they had issues with DH's weight (he has a BMI of just below 30, but he has a body fat percentage of below 10% and is an athlete - the doctor said he was in great shape but the agency solely care about BMI) and they also had issues with MIL (she was an abusive parent and even though DH has been non-contact for a decade, and so have his siblings, the agency said that abuse is cyclical so he's likely to be abusive because she was). So, adoption is out as an option for us.
Surrogacy is an absolute no-go and so is adopting from abroad - for financial and legal reasons, we simply won't consider these options. This pretty much takes us back to only having pregnancy as an option - and that is what DH would like to do. I think I'm prepared to do it but I have a list of demands, I'm wondering whether my demands are unreasonable.

  1. Wait until September to conceive because then I'm entitled to a higher rate of maternity pay from my employer.
  2. Once we have had as many children as we choose to have, I'd like to have my breasts reduced and my tummy tucked. I've always had large breasts and after our one son and two years of breastfeeding, they're ginormous - I'm in pain all day every day, have no clothes that look nice and just HATE them. My tummy isn't TOO bad right now but I had some abdominal surgery in recent years too so I think another pregnancy might leave me looking like a deflated balloon.
  3. He's got a holiday booked for next February to go skiing - I'd like him to cancel it. I don't know how well I'll be and we have DS to look after now too so I can't really risk him going away.
  4. I'd like to give birth in the hospital I gave birth in last time - almost two hours away from where we now live. I simply don't trust the hospitals closer to us having had really awful experiences. The hospital where I gave birth were incredible and I trust them completely. My sister recently gave birth and her care during and after labour was horrendous so I know all hospitals are definitely not remotely the same in the level of care that they offer.
  5. I'd like to be induced (like I was last time), which does somewhat help with the logistics of demand 4. I've checked that I'm allowed to give birth in any NHS hospital and choose to be induced as long as I'm at full term so that shouldn't be an issue for the midwife/consultant/hospital etc.

So, AIBU?

OP posts:
RunningFromInsanity · 14/05/2021 22:46

15 pages in, do we ever get to find out the age of the child?

Scramblerr · 14/05/2021 23:10

Did it not occur to anyone on this thread that giving a shit about DS wasn't on my list because it's so fucking obvious and assumed that giving a shit about him was the highest priority and first thing we discussed?!
If y'all have to explicitly ask your DH's to care about your kid then I feel for you but I don't. We obviously considered him, he's obviously our priority. He was the very first thing we discussed and we're confident we can be ok with that aspect - that's why I don't need any of YOUR opinions on whether we're able to look after our own son. The fact I don't mention him 24/7 when he's not needed doesn't mean I don't love him, care about him, adore him, feel blessed that I have him, look after etc etc etc and all the other things I've been accused of not doing on this thread.

OP posts:
NoSquirrels · 14/05/2021 23:10

@RunningFromInsanity

15 pages in, do we ever get to find out the age of the child?
Between 4 and 9, based on OP’s answers. Why do you care?
HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 14/05/2021 23:14

It's hard to infer that your existing son is your top priority, because another pregnancy and baby has SO many risks and negatives for him and one very risky positive - that his life might be enriched by a sibling. You want a baby because you want a baby, even at the expense of your existing child, but you keep trying to dress it up as some kind of selfless move for his benefit. Just own it.

MIC2689 · 14/05/2021 23:14

You jump on a few posts and then say that everyone said the same thing when they didn't. Yes I'm sure it occurred to some people on this thread, which I'm guessing is why they didn't even mention it. Jump on the people that actually said it. Abrasive is putting it nicely. Really nicely.

Scramblerr · 14/05/2021 23:18

I'm completely baffled why it's ok for so many people to say I'm selfishly harming my child by having a second child but I can't even state that there are "benefits and drawbacks" to having siblings without being told I'm "jumping on" and "shaming" parents who have one child. All I've ever said is that it's mine and DH's decision how many children we have and it's up to everyone else how many they have - how is that attacking anyone to ask that people respect my decision on something I didn't ask for comment on and repeatedly asked people to stop commenting on?

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Teapotsandtablecloths · 14/05/2021 23:48

Woah the drama on this thread 😂

AndSal92 · 15/05/2021 00:40

I literally cannot believe some of the messages here - whether you decide to have another child is really nobody's business but your own, and not the question you were asking. I'm also shocked that in this day and age you are being shamed for working full time, it sounds like you're working hard to give your family a great life and that's admirable - would anyone be saying this to a dad?! I actually think it's huge testament to the love and dedication you have for your family that you are embarking on something you find so traumatic again for them. Just for the record I plan to stay at home for a little while after children, but that's purely because my career circumstances are different. Some of the best mummies I know work a lot and are so warm and inspiring for their little ones - they are doing a great job and their children are thriving. Regarding your requests, I think you have to do whatever you have to do to make you feel in control and supported. Sending love, I think lots of people have been very unfair here x

Nanny0gg · 15/05/2021 18:56

@Meowchickameowmeow

sibling relationship are EXTREAMLY important and you dont have to justify wanting to give your child that to anyone

Extremely important to who? Siblings might not be able to stand the sight of each other when they grow up, I wouldn't care in the slightest if I never saw my brother again.
The joy of having a sibling is nonsense to a lot of people.

Quite. Have another child/don't have another child but the decision is for you, not your DC.
LuaDipa · 15/05/2021 19:24

@HeyDemonsItsYaGirl

It's hard to infer that your existing son is your top priority, because another pregnancy and baby has SO many risks and negatives for him and one very risky positive - that his life might be enriched by a sibling. You want a baby because you want a baby, even at the expense of your existing child, but you keep trying to dress it up as some kind of selfless move for his benefit. Just own it.
Taking the very difficult decision to try for another pregnancy does not mean that her existing child isn’t her top priority. She’s had a rough couple of years and it’s obvious that this isn’t an easy choice for op to make.

Every pregnancy contains an element of risk so the choice to have another could always be at the expense of the existing child. Many people still choose to have more than one. She is no different to anyone else. I think she is actually being very brave. I didn’t particularly enjoy normal pregnancy, I’m not sure I would have signed up to the hell she went through for a second time.

Good luck with it all Scramblerr.Flowers

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