To think we won't see a Labour Government again for many years?

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Even discounting the changes in the ex-industrial former "red-wall" seats, no Labour leader has ever become Prime Minister without winning at least half the seats in Scotland. Even if Scotland does not vote for independence in the next few years, Labour is never going to recover there. If independence comes then it is academic anyway.

Combine that with the changes in the former Labour seats in the north (which I think will only continue) then a Government cannot be formed of London MPs, a few larger cities and some seats in university towns/cities.

I don't think Starmer is the most charismatic leader but I think any ppolitican would struggle to solve this. Very hard to try and appeal to ex-industrial seats AND young, metropolitan, middle class voters in London etc.

One of the best comments I saw yesterday was Labour trying to make traction of the conservatives being corrupt and stuffing money into places that voted for them, was people thinking "well all politicians are corrupt anyway, so we may as well vote for Boris to get some of that too!"

I guess many don't know who funds political parties and what their agenda is, there is a reason political parties are woke and refuse to drop it.

Pharma funds it in the liberal democrats apparently.

I was hoping you’d tell me since you mentioned him!

I was hoping you’d tell me since you mentioned him!

It's difficult to tell with the written word, no tone or body language.

@PostLockdownLife

I was hoping you’d tell me since you mentioned him!

It's difficult to tell with the written word, no tone or body language.

This is like going through the looking glass. Have a lovely day.

Pritti Patel is the most racist of the government, although they are all pretty bad.

Where is the evidence that she is racist?

Rather than provide accomodation she'd rather criminalise a whole race with new laws. Ethnic cleansing through policy.

What? Is this something to do with gypsies and Irish travellers?

Have a lovely day.

The same to you.

I gather Mandelson signed his letter.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3535414-Anthony-Watson-thinks-prominent-GC-woman-journalist-is-his-PA

@Moonstone1234

DB I agree with your re Momentum. Crept in and taken over. I am not sure they want to win though. They just want to be a Protest Party. Means they just don’t have to actually deliver anything.

I think Momentum would love to be in power. They would love to introduce a Chekist state, locking up (and worse) anyone who disagree with them, requisitioning property from the class enemy and encouraging children to denounce their parents etc.

[quote PostLockdownLife]I gather Mandelson signed his letter.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3535414-Anthony-Watson-thinks-prominent-GC-woman-journalist-is-his-PA[/quote]
So it’s some bloody no mark on Twitter? Who gives a fuck?

So it’s some bloody no mark on Twitter?

He is on boards in the labour party and funds them, have you actually read the linked thread, very unique analysis of it if you have.

Who the fuck’s A Watson?

Do you mean Tom Watson? Former MP and now head of ‘UK music’. He fell for the lies of Carl Beech who made ludicrous claims against various Tory and military big wigs - claims which caused terrible damage to the accused.
I guess Watson realised early on Beech was a complete fantasist but the opportunity to cause harm to Tories was maybe impossible for him to resist.

order-order.com/2016/04/14/labour-business-tsars-firm-incorporated-in-caymans/

You can check yourself if my memory serves me well that Mandelson signed the letter unless it can be amanded later, link in this article.

uncommongroundmedia.com/lgbt-advisor-labour-anthony-watson-free-tickets-helen-joyce/

Anthony Watson is far more influential than some no mark on twitter.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6082543/Shadow-equalities-minister-spent-week-luxury-Sicily-hotel-two-day-tourism-conference.html

So influential that most people have never heard of them. 🤷‍♀️

You haven't heard of him until now, now you know who he is and why there are some social issues going on.

www.glaad.org/blog/why-are-you-mad-when-you-could-be-glaad-taylor-swift-be-honored-vanguard-award-31st-annual

Don't think that because someone is black or Asian that they can't be racist. Some are, as are some white people.

[quote PostLockdownLife]You haven't heard of him until now, now you know who he is and why there are some social issues going on.

www.glaad.org/blog/why-are-you-mad-when-you-could-be-glaad-taylor-swift-be-honored-vanguard-award-31st-annual[/quote]
Indeed. And I really couldn’t care less. 🤷‍♀️

I doubt it was just Momentum that saved Angela.

Hopefully the Greens will inherit the centre/left vote as they continue to grow into a mainstream force (they've quietly done well this election!)

@TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum

Hopefully the Greens will inherit the centre/left vote as they continue to grow into a mainstream force (they've quietly done well this election!)

The Greens are even more pro-identity-politics than Labour!

@TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum

Hopefully the Greens will inherit the centre/left vote as they continue to grow into a mainstream force (they've quietly done well this election!)

The biology denying Greens who are more interested in identity politics than the environment and ignored the rows of red flags around the challenors.

The unedifying circus surrounding Keir Starmer's re-shuffle is doing even more harm to the Labour Party and Keir personally, he looks weak and the divisions in the Party are even more on show. The electorate do not vote for divided, infighting parties. Keir Starmer has a mountain to climb with the electorate and a mountain to climb within Labour, this does not bode well.

@TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum

Hopefully the Greens will inherit the centre/left vote as they continue to grow into a mainstream force (they've quietly done well this election!)

They don’t know what a woman is either. I’d vote for them if they were pro women.