To wonder what it is about “no overnight stays till 17 May” that is so hard to understand?

[HaveringWavering]

So many colleagues and acquaintances merrily talking today about plans to go and stay with relatives for the bank holiday. Nobody has any shame. We’re waiting till the 17th. Does nobody care any more?

Hope you are not going out in your car over the bank holiday op?
You do know that people die in car accidents every year, perhaps we should ban cars?

@Lamentations

And to your second question to a PP - neither. I've minded my own business from the start. The people who should feel ashamed of themselves are the people who have curtain twitched, reported their neighbours for 'breaches' and generally been over invested and spiteful about what other people were doing. I remember early in the pandemic a poster saying that she now understood why the Hitler Youth had thrived in Nazi Germany and she got slated but she was bang on.

This.

When visiting relatives at a long distance I'm not sure when I'll be up for going for a drink at motorway services.
No doubt it will be long after its allowed in law.

Don't care one bit.

I'm going to stay with relatives this weekend. The only people i'll see indoors have had both vaccines. I work from home and haven't been indoors with anyone else for 2 weeks except for a flying trip round the supermarket one evening when it was practically empty. I'm driving myself and will only stop to go in services to use the toilet. I've also got a lateral flow test to do before I go.
If i can go to the pub, a restaurant or the gym and breathe the same indoor air as random strangers then I'll take the risk on visiting my family thanks! Technically I can go under the guise of a "bubble" anyway as I haven't seen my local one for 2 weeks.

@trappedsincesundaymorn

Believe me my main motivation for wanting to stay with my inlaws is to get them to take my DC off my hands for a while

So bubble with them and then they can stay over.

Bubbles are not an excuse to facilitate a visit. You can’t set up a childcare bubble for a weekend. What exactly are you suggesting?

Maybe they are in a support bubble?? My Mum is coming this weekend for the first time since last August. She's on her own but hasn't felt ready to integrate with others until now. My brother and his partner are going to come over too and camp in the garden. Maybe there are circumstances you aren't aware of before you make hasty judgements.

Couldn't care less

We've all had vaccine so getting on with life as normal.

Not me. The government. I didn’t make the rules.

So your only issue is 'the rules' ..and that is why these people should be ashamed? If BoJo came on tv tonight saying the rules were being lifted tomorrow, everything would magically be ok, your child could visit granny and those other people needn't feel ashamed anymore?

There are a few dubious laws out there that I don't follow. So I'm not going to follow this one blindly either.

Al

Sadly people don’t care anymore. But the same people will moan if we had to tighten restrictions again!

People no longer jump 6 feet away if I pass them in the street. It's a great feeling.

Seriously what's the difference between now and 17 May? Dd has been invited to a sleepover party next weekend. I'm thrilled for her!

*Pippa12

Icu nurse... your bloody thick if you think this is anywhere near over without rules*

The irony.

Couldn't care less.

@Waxonwaxoff0

There are a few dubious laws out there that I don't follow. So I'm not going to follow this one blindly either.

I was quite often known to drink in bars before I was 18

I disagree with the OP, it's too late to care frankly

but I also completely disagree with
The people who should feel ashamed of themselves are the people who have curtain twitched, reported their neighbours for 'breaches' and generally been over invested and spiteful about what other people were doing.

No difference with reporting someone for drunk driving or being a nuisance or a risk to others.

They have nothing to be ashamed of. (as long as they didn't invent rules like the so-called and completely invented "1 hour walk" nonsense).

But I think we're done with all that!

The rules are so arbitrary and political now I'm not surprised they are being ignored.

We can visit inside and (presumably) stay overnight quite safely in Wales when extended households come back from next Monday. This is clearly unsafe if you are in England so you need to wait a couple more weeks.

I'm absolutely sure it has nothing at all to do with Drakeford hoping for re-election next week!

The government has already admitted that it’s perfectly safe for two vaccinated people to be indoors together. But they wanted to wait until it was safe for everyone, including the unvaccinated younger age groups, to avoid a two tier system.
So it is perfectly reasonable for vaccinated people to go and stay with their vaccinated relatives - you will harm nobody and will not be spreading Covid. You might make others jealous, or risk being reported, but that’s up to you.

@inmyslippers

We've all had vaccine so getting on with life as normal.

And to hell with everyone else then? They specifically tell you at the vaccination appointment that you can still transmit coronavirus after vaccination so you must continue to follow the rules.

@BlaBlaSmthSmth

Not me. The government. I didn’t make the rules.

So your only issue is 'the rules' ..and that is why these people should be ashamed? If BoJo came on tv tonight saying the rules were being lifted tomorrow, everything would magically be ok, your child could visit granny and those other people needn't feel ashamed anymore?

Yes!

@Babdoc

The government has already admitted that it’s perfectly safe for two vaccinated people to be indoors together. But they wanted to wait until it was safe for everyone, including the unvaccinated younger age groups, to avoid a two tier system. So it is perfectly reasonable for vaccinated people to go and stay with their vaccinated relatives - you will harm nobody and will not be spreading Covid. You might make others jealous, or risk being reported, but that’s up to you.

We are having friends to stay and none of us have been vaccinated. All had Covid though. We also take two lateral flow tests weekly.

@TheOneWithTheBigNose yep! I expect most of us did too

I actually much prefer someone honestly admitting ignoring the rules than someone banging on about a flipping "support bubble" to justify following their own rules!

Enough already with the fucking bubbles. They were a way to carry on as normal while pretending you followed the rules.