To wonder what it is about “no overnight stays till 17 May” that is so hard to understand?

[HaveringWavering]

So many colleagues and acquaintances merrily talking today about plans to go and stay with relatives for the bank holiday. Nobody has any shame. We’re waiting till the 17th. Does nobody care any more?

I care. I have relatives including my husband who is still ECV. He and the rest of our young family shielded for months to protect the NHS for other people and those same people think that their wish to go away over the bank holiday weekend is more important that reducing the risk to other people. Like a lot of people over this pandemic they are being incredibly selfish. But the young thing you can do is behave in a sensible way yourself. You can’t control other people’s behaviour.

@HaveringWavering

They’d all be the first to complain if their employers asked them to come back to the office a millisecond before the government relaxes “work from home if possible”.

How do you know?

Because they are my colleagues and we have talked about it.

@Thatwentbadly

I care. I have relatives including my husband who is still ECV. He and the rest of our young family shielded for months to protect the NHS for other people and those same people think that their wish to go away over the bank holiday weekend is more important that reducing the risk to other people. Like a lot of people over this pandemic they are being incredibly selfish. But the young thing you can do is behave in a sensible way yourself. You can’t control other people’s behaviour.

I am CV too and I am going away over the bank holiday, which is allowed if it is self contained.

Not my circus etc. I don’t care what others do now that the vacc program has rolled out and rates are so low.
Everyone makes their own assessment ...

@Thatwentbadly

I care. I have relatives including my husband who is still ECV. He and the rest of our young family shielded for months to protect the NHS for other people and those same people think that their wish to go away over the bank holiday weekend is more important that reducing the risk to other people. Like a lot of people over this pandemic they are being incredibly selfish. But the young thing you can do is behave in a sensible way yourself. You can’t control other people’s behaviour.

But all of the people who are most at risk have been offered the vaccine now. People like myself who haven't been offered it yet are low risk and just have to get on with it now. I don't want anyone to stay home to protect me, I'm not bothered.

Yes, I feel very superior about not letting my son see his grandparents for two more weeks. That is absolutely my only motivation for not breaking the law.

So honestly, if your son wants to see his grandparents and stay over then why not let him? Literally no one is going to care.
These dates are not entirely pulled out of someone's arse, but neither are they an exact science, and the risk of Covid in 2 weeks time is likely to be very similar to now.

Do you live alone OP or do you have family living with you or nearby? Unless you live on your own and have not seen a member of your family in the flesh because they live so far away, you are in no position to judge others for wanting to see theirs. I have not seen my DD in the flesh for 6 months...guess who I've got visiting me next weekend, as its the only weekend she will have off for the next 6 weeks. I couldn't give a fat rat's crack what anybody else thinks...especially those who still have their DC at home.

You asked if you were being unreasonable asking if people had no shame anymore.

Many told you that you are in fact, being unreasonable, and quite ridiculous to boot and you're arguing the toss.

You do you, let other people get on with it.

I am CV too and I am going away over the bank holiday, which is allowed if it is self contained.

@LST I am talking about people going to stay in others’ homes.

Oh I've just seen that YOU see your child every day, yet you think I should not be allowed to see mine. Right ho.

@HaveringWavering

I am CV too and I am going away over the bank holiday, which is allowed if it is self contained.

@LST I am talking about people going to stay in others’ homes.

We are going away with 4 other families. All stopping in our own vans. What makes that ok but someone stopping their mums not ok until the 17th?

@trappedsincesundaymorn

Do you live alone OP or do you have family living with you or nearby? Unless you live on your own and have not seen a member of your family in the flesh because they live so far away, you are in no position to judge others for wanting to see theirs. I have not seen my DD in the flesh for 6 months...guess who I've got visiting me next weekend, as its the only weekend she will have off for the next 6 weeks. I couldn't give a fat rat's crack what anybody else thinks...especially those who still have their DC at home.

Believe me my main motivation for wanting to stay with my inlaws is to get them to take my DC off my hands for a while!

I care. I have relatives including my husband who is still ECV.

Your husband must be fully vaccinated (or very close to being fully done) by now? And again, what is going to change on 17th May, it's only a couple of weeks away, and the numbers are so low now?

We are going away with 4 other families. All stopping in our own vans. What makes that ok but someone stopping their mums not ok until the 17th?

The law.

At some point we're going to have to allow "risk" into our lives again. Regardless of the lifting restrictions time table.

@HaveringWavering

We've never had a strict lockdown or strict rules anyway, it's a bit late to get worked up about it!

How much stricter can a rule be than it being the law?

who cared, who checked, who fined?

Half my kids classes spent Christmas and Easter at relatives and friends.

Actually, more than half the families who had to be home during the lockdown and didn't send the kids to school went away - and I can't blame them, even the royals did that. It's easier to work when your relative looks after the kids.

So really, who cares now?

@trappedsincesundaymorn

Oh I've just seen that YOU see your child every day, yet you think I should not be allowed to see mine. Right ho.

Not me. The government. I didn’t make the rules.

I am making my own decision not going by some arbitary date. Havent seen my Dd since before xmas. so yes I,m going. I have had both vaccines and her and her partner had covid in January . Driving there, not stopping anywhere and coming back Monday. Its the only weekend we both have off until July, so I,m not waiting any longer.

@HaveringWavering

We are going away with 4 other families. All stopping in our own vans. What makes that ok but someone stopping their mums not ok until the 17th?

The law.

Riiiight... nah. I'm good with those law breakers seeing their parents.

I care .. but ....My adult DS was working nearby recently (construction = key worker). He could keep the rules and stay in a hotel and eat takeaways or break the rules and stay in his old room in the family home where DH and I have been isolating for some time and where only one person would be cooking for him. I've really missed him but even setting that aside, we figured staying here was the safer option. Sometimes common sense trumps rules.

@lljkk

At some point we're going to have to allow "risk" into our lives again. Regardless of the lifting restrictions time table.

Why not just stick to the timetable and trust that people who actually understand risk have thought about this? Nobody is saying that the timetable does not allow reintroduction of risk.

Icu nurse... your bloody thick if you think this is anywhere near over without rules.

We're still following the rules, but the initial "we're all in this together" spirit has really faded

Believe me my main motivation for wanting to stay with my inlaws is to get them to take my DC off my hands for a while

So bubble with them and then they can stay over.