Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

[Kendodd]

My theory is that voters don't care.

Both of my dc have received cash or voucher prizes for achievement (in school and out of school awards) - several hundred pounds worth in one instance

Mine too. How much were your children expected to give in return? Was the award given in secret? Did they hide it from sight?

Mine always received things like school colours and scholarships publicly. They went on the school records. There was never any suggestions that their schools would benefit in any way from handing out the awards.

• Who offers £60k and doesn't want anything in return?

Someone who wants to reward an 80 seat majority? Both of my dc have received cash or voucher prizes for achievement (in school and out of school awards) - several hundred pounds worth in one instance.*

You can’t be that naive. Business people and donors give money to political parties to just congratulate them like a school does to it’s pupils? No ulterior motive?

*its pupils

Shall I start a new thread so we can continue to talk about the levels of lying, corruption and cronyism in this government and in particular the PM and how so many voters just don't care and love him anyway (or even because of it)?

@Kendodd

Shall I start a new thread so we can continue to talk about the levels of lying, corruption and cronyism in this government and in particular the PM and how so many voters just don't care and love him anyway (or even because of it)?

No.

LemonRoses
Mine always received things like school colours and scholarships publicly. They went on the school records.

I know several children at a private school who receive substantial bursaries (high achievers) - their fee remission is not public knowledge. An 80 seat majority is a fantastic achievement.

Ah The Tories made allegations about Gordon Brown

Liberal Democrats?
“2008 - The Prime Minister has violated his own Ministerial Code of Conduct 10 times in one day,” said Norman Baker, Liberal Democrat MP.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/07/23/brown-breaks-ministerial-code-before-break/

The Independent 2007
Gordon Brown has broken the official code governing cabinet ministers' behaviour and failed to comply with Government rules on overseas travel.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brown-accused-over-breach-of-ministerial-code-on-travel-435880.html

The Guardian 2000
The Bernie Ecclestone affair has come back to haunt Tony Blair and Gordon Brown nearly three years after Labours high command hoped it had heard the last of the controversy.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2000/sep/20/labour.labour1997to99

Sunday Times 2008
Sarah Brown, the wife of the prime minister, has been drawn into political controversy for the first time as the Tories questioned whether Gordon Brown breached the ministerial code by failing to register her public relations contracts.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gordon-brown-is-dragged-into-spat-over-funds-bqnrzf7d9bs

There are several more examples in Theresa May's list.

Well I'm certain it's going to be a quiet week in politics.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

Clavinova - I don't understand why you are equating bursaries (which will be properly recorded) with an undisclosed payment to the Prime Minister.

That’s Clavs M.O

Both of my dc have received cash or voucher prizes for achievement (in school and out of school awards) - several hundred pounds worth in one instance

But I have read on some of the Education threads talk about students winning scholarships to fee paying schools that the child has certain obligations placed on them - e.g. choral scholarships require a number of appearances in the Cathedral choir and tough luck if the family wants to go away that week end. Sports scholarships - representing the school in matches being put before other commitments the child might want to undertake.
Failure to comply can mean the scholarship being lost.

Only reporting this all second hand mind you.

It's pitiful how many people don't mind corruption, backhanders etc as long as the taxpayer didn't pay for it. Such low standards.

When it's a Tory involved in the corruption. They would be screaming blue murder if an Labour/SNP MP did likewise.

Did the wrong vote before I saw the 'key' - I voted YANBU and I should've voted YABU

Johnson didn’t support Brexit until he saw it as a route to number 10.

Johnson didn't support Brexit until David Cameron came back from Brussels with fewer concessions than he asked for - David Cameron thought he could reform the EU and get more opt-outs for the UK.

Failure to comply can mean the scholarship being lost.

How is an 80 seat majority a failure? And according to recent polls he is still doing much better than Labour.

Clavinova - I don't understand why you are equating bursaries (which will be properly recorded) with an undisclosed payment to the Prime Minister.

Presumably the loan is recorded at Tory HQ? Bursaries are not disclosed to other parents and staff - I only know about my friend's dc because she told me.

How is presenting a non sequitur to an observation anything but a squirrel to derail a thread?

Some day the Tories will take great pleasure in defenestrating Johnson, as they have done with all bar one predecessor, and then certain posters will have to rewrite their history smartish to pretend that they had never drunk the Johnson Kool -Aid.*

Cameron of course did a runner before he could be defenestrated.

• Kool - Aid, not the real thing apparently but a supermarket own brand was employed in the Jonestown mass suicide.

No, because I think they all lie and give contracts/work to friends and family, let's face it many people would in the same situation. It's human nature, sadly. Most of them just get away with it and we don't hear it all over the news every day.

I am quite fickle Peregrina and a big fan of Rishi Sunak.

Clav Survation poll commissioned by the daily mail

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 39% (-4)
LAB: 38% (+3)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
GRN: 6% (+2)

via
@Survation
, 27 - 29 Apr
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When I was talking about PMs being defenestrated I was talking about Thatcher onwards. Thatcher at one time appeared invincible. Thatcher though wasn't a bare faced liar as far as I am aware. Thatcher would not have spaffed £200,000 on refurbishing an already recently refubished flat. I read the other day that she even paid for her own ironing board when she needed a new one.

I am quite fickle Peregrina and a big fan of Rishi Sunak.

You need to remember that "All political careers end in failure."

Exceptions I suppose are those that the grim reaper decides to cut down in their prime.

The thing is the lying over the wallpaper is symptomatic of a government that has no regard for the citizens of the country.
Remember it is the same government that took legal action against schools who wanted to shut to protect the health of pupils and staff.
And refused to shut schools in January in a timely fashion because the teachers unions and others said they should, so we had the nonsense of opening for a day.

This is a PM who apparently spent £200,000 on refurbishing a recently refurbished flat, but leads a Government which expects leaseholders of flats with Grenfell style cladding to pay for it to be removed themselves.

Remember it is the same government that took legal action against schools who wanted to shut to protect the health of pupils and staff.

And Keir Starmer?

www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2020/12/14/starmer-urges-leaders-to-try-to-keep-schools-open-as-khan-backs-early-closure/