Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

[Kendodd]

My theory is that voters don't care.

@ClaudiaApple

Bozo did not get the vaccines sorted. All the hard working scientist and the NHS did.

The charlatan is taking credit for it

Why do people say stuff like this?! When something goes right it's nothing to go with the government, when things go wrong it's all their fault.

Something I've just seen on Twitter 'last week there was outrage because business chiefs had Johnson's mobile number, this week there's outrage because his mobile number has been all over the Internet for years' .

Look I'm not a BJ fan. I think he should resign but this word weaslery is exhausting. He put Kate Bingham in charge of procurement and everything followed from that. This isn't a fairy tale where one character is totally evil and another is a saint

True, i don't know how much Bojo had in any of it but the Tory govt certainly got the vaccine procurement right, though i don't agree with the contracts they had drawn up, just seems immoral to be vaccinating healthy 40yo's in the UK, whilst countries that have super hi infection rates, don't have enough.

But i guess thats a result of what Johnson said "its a success due to greed and capitalism" or something like that.

@Clavinova

jasjas1973 @ Clavinova Penlon is a medical devices company specialising in air ways equipment. Asking manufacturers to switch from cars or jet engines to specialist medical devices was unrealistic according to Craig Thompson, head of products at Oxfordshire firm Penlon, one of the few specialist ventilator firms in the country.

He said that on or before 16 March 2020. Now look at the names of the companies involved in the Consortium (formed 19 March 2020) who helped him scale up production - what do they normally manufacture?

Established, from scratch, seven new large-scale manufacturing facilities at Airbus AMRC Cymru in Broughton, Ford in Dagenham, GKN Aerospace in Luton and Cowes, McLaren in Woking, Rolls-Royce in Filton and STI in Hook, as well as restructuring existing sites Smiths Medical in Luton and Penlon in Abingdon.

www.penlon.com/Blog/July-2020/VentilatorChallengeUK-consortium-ends-after-delive

Who'd have thought?

Indeed.

As i said, waste of time and money.... going to known ventilator manufactures instead of asking a hoover manufacturer who produced no ventilators, could easily have resulted in more equipment....

Official figures show that occupancy of medical ventilator beds reached a peak of 3,301 in April. The UK’s pre-pandemic supply of ventilators was nearly 9,000

just seems immoral to be vaccinating healthy 40yo's in the UK, whilst countries that have super hi infection rates, don't have enough.

And have a variant which might be resistant to the vaccine, thus potentially being a global danger.

But hey, not to worry, we will rely on Business Consultants to tell us that it will be OK.

Anybody planning on drunk-dialing Boris at 3am?

jasjas1973
As I said, waste of time and money...going to known ventilator manufacturers...could easily have resulted in more equipment....

Not easily at all - Penlon (plus another small ventilator manufacturer) only had a combined manufacturing capacity (with another small company) for between 50 and 60 ventilators per week.

Official figures show that occupancy of medical ventilator beds reached a peak of 3,301 in April.

You sound like Keir Starmer - Captain Hindsight. At one point it was estimated that we might need up to 30,000 ventilators.

That Muck comes from the business that is real government it wouldn't evaporate into thin air within a Labour government

That Muck comes from Johnson - the Tories need to own it and deal with it. The tactic of 'nothing to see here, look over there at them' is just a diversion. Johnson is responsible for The Muck.

(with another small company)
Didn't proof read - one other small manufacturer.

jasjas1973
just seems immoral to be vaccinating healthy 40yo's in the UK, whilst countries that have super hi infection rates, don't have enough.

Did you watch Question Time last night?

Jonathan Ashworth, Labour's Shadow Health Secretary wouldn't give a straight answer about donating vaccines to other countries.

donating vaccines to other countries

Exactly. He is no fool. How about solving our own issues first? Charity begins at home and all that.

There is no muck. A lot of made up rubbish

Good grief so not only do you refuse to acknowledge that the PM has done right by all the people of the UK...he is at fault for not having it sorted it for over 3 billion in India as well

If the Indian government cared more about its own people than developing a space programme they might have been better prepared...as it is we were the first to send aid, we will continue to send aid and I am sure as soon as we have spare vaccines they will be sent as a priority...as it is we have developed a vaccine that does not need refrigeration exactly to help poorer countries and provided the blueprint for countries to develop their own vaccines.

@mustlovegin

There is no muck. A lot of made up rubbish

You’re not serious? You’re being ironic, yes?

I believe that a lot of our AZ vaccine doses were manufactured in India. Perhaps they now regret not keeping them for their own population?

There is very little that warrants the utter vilification and persecution of Boris....

www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-india-idUSKCN2AV0A2

Yes India was due to supply 10 million doses of the AZ vaccine. In an ideal world we would have seen Johnson finding the money to ramp up production in the UK to make the UK self sufficient. Then we wouldn't need to deprive India of much needed vaccines.

I don't doubt that if Saint Boris had done this he would have trumpeted it for all it was worth, and to be fair, it would be something worth boasting about.

Non of this is to deny that Modi is a nasty piece of work who isn't looking after his own citizens.

I care! It is very true that is the person at the top is corrupt and has no compunction in lying that this ethos permeates everything they touch and everyone beneath them.

Would you feel safe is married to a prolific liar?
Would you be comfortable working for or with a prolific liar?
Would you accept your children lying to you all the time?

If not - why on Earth would we trust the person in the highest office in the land who is lying to us, or the party who chose them as their leader.

If he had an ounce of integrity he would resign.

Something I've just seen on Twitter 'last week there was outrage because business chiefs had Johnson's mobile number, this week there's outrage because his mobile number has been all over the Internet for years'

Yes this was George Osbourne.
Neither of these is a good thing, or negate each other. Direct text access to the PM by text = cronyism.
The PM’s number freely available online = national security risk.
Refusal to change his number (he would have been told to do so) when he became PM just shows he thinks he can do whatever he likes with impunity

Then we wouldn't need to deprive India of much needed vaccines.

The article in the link is 2 months old (before India's second wave) and the Serum Institute of India is the largest vaccine manufacturer in the world.

Johnson finding the money to ramp up production in the UK

He is:
20 March 2021
Extra £47.6 million for Vaccines Manufacturing and Innovation Centre.

The VMIC will be the UK’s first national vaccines manufacturing and innovation facility and will be able to respond to pandemics by producing millions of doses quickly.

VMIC has been granted almost £215 million of government funding in total to date.

www.gov.uk/government/news/extra-476-million-for-vaccines-manufacturing-and-innovation-centre

This! You said exactly what I was thinking. He thinks we are all stupid and that it doesn’t matter if he lies. This is a turning point in British politics. He’s laughing at us all. Why does integrity not matter any more? You think you’re in safe hands with a liar and a cheat? How can you expect your children to be truthful if you don’t expect him to be? Or does that not matter any more either? If he’d made a tough decision just once to lock down sooner in the autumn then thousands of people would not have died. How can the UK death rates be considered a victory?

Cos Boris is responsible for India...

If we had gone unvaccinated and given our 32 million vaccines to India there would still be one billion four hundred and sixty four million people in India unvaccinated.....

Refusal to change his number

Ok. The media and opposition really clutching at straws here. This campaign is laughable and getting more ridiculous by the day

@Clavinova

jasjas1973 just seems immoral to be vaccinating healthy 40yo's in the UK, whilst countries that have super hi infection rates, don't have enough.

Did you watch Question Time last night?

Jonathan Ashworth, Labour's Shadow Health Secretary wouldn't give a straight answer about donating vaccines to other countries.

Oh look, a windmill.