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Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

999 replies

Kendodd · 28/04/2021 07:24

My theory is that voters don't care.

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Marcia1989 · 28/04/2021 08:05

He's not just a run of the mill politician who has a weasly way with words and is a bit evasive. He is intrinsically dishonest and has no integrity. None at all. He actually lost a job for lying.

LakieLady · 28/04/2021 08:06

@Nappyvalley15

Yes regarding money. It makes me wonder who might be buying favours from him and why.

Plus his constant lying sets a very low bar for politics in this country. I don't want that to be normal here.

It makes me wonder if I really want to stay in this country.

I believe I'm entitled to Irish citizenship, which is starting to look more and more attractive. I've seen some lovely houses in West Cork...

Brefugee · 28/04/2021 08:06

There is also Iraq have weapons of mass destruction ,so we need to go to war with them

That is true but people marched about that and made a huge fuss.
37 million to your mate for useless track & trace? "all politicians lie" doesn't cut the mustard as a reply.

As for the decorations if anyone thinks it's about the decorations they are niave at best. It is about splashing someone else's cash for no reason than "because they can" then lying about who paid for it, pretending he'd said it was a loan along etc etc. Goes to his character and lying habit.

Bodies piling up? He's the PM - even if he thought it, why actually say it? Because he can. Years of making up lies about non-existant EU regulations... The list goes on.

LYING TO THE HEAD OF STATE!

Frankly, if you don't care about that you deserve him.

Darker · 28/04/2021 08:06

Anyone interested can see Peter Stefanovic’s video here. It details many of the lies. It’s had over 12 million views.

mobile.twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2

ToffeeAppleCaramel · 28/04/2021 08:07

Yes I care. But I would never, ever have voted for him for this (and other) reasons so there is nothing I can do personally to get us a better PM. The people who voted for him last time need to care about his lies and I’m inclined to agree with you that many of them don’t.

megletthesecond · 28/04/2021 08:07

I care. But loads of people are lying shits so it won't bother them.

Merryoldgoat · 28/04/2021 08:08

I care but I’m entirely unsurprised. The man is a proven liar and has been since before being elected.

I don’t think his supporters care which is the real biggie as they’ll carry on excusing him.

AuldAlliance · 28/04/2021 08:11

There is also Iraq have weapons of mass destruction ,so we need to go to war with them ....

There is also lying, being held to account and paying the price - and then there is lying and never being held to account or paying the price...

Darker · 28/04/2021 08:14

@AuldAlliance

There is also Iraq have weapons of mass destruction ,so we need to go to war with them ....

There is also lying, being held to account and paying the price - and then there is lying and never being held to account or paying the price...

Exactly.
NevermindNelson · 28/04/2021 08:18

To those who said that anything was acceptable to get precious ventilators - you do know that Dyson didn’t provide any ventilators, don’t you.

I also don’t care about his sex life, but I do care that his affair partner was given money from government funds and then he lied about that.

LakieLady · 28/04/2021 08:20

@Mooda

I care but I don't think many people do. Sure everyone lies sometimes but not in the way he does, systematically and without care. He's an exceptionally unpleasant character but I don't think many people see past the silly hair and funny one liners (he does have a memorable turn of phrase, I'll give him that). The whole sordid story of his premiership will all come out one day but he'll be long gone by then and raking it in elsewhere.
I agree about most people not seeing past the silly hair etc, but why are so few people concerned about his lack of conviction with regard to leave/remain, where he didn't come out for either side until he saw which way the wind was blowing? The single biggest political and economic issue of my lifetime, and he still couldn't manage to say what he believed was best for the country.

And as for his sexual incontinence, serial infidelities etc, they are unspeakable. How any woman can support a man whose moral compass is so gone awry that he's off impregnating his mistress while his wife, the mother of 4 of his 6 (or is it 7?) children, is undergoing treatment for cancer?

This speaks volumes about the man's callousness, selfishness and utter lack of any sort of morality or consideration for others.

I don't expect politicians to be perfect. I don't expect higher standards of behaviour from them than I expect of myself. I'm not a hypocrite. But I do expect a bit of basic human decency and that they will not accept gifts or favours that could influence them when it comes to making decisions of national, even international, importance.

And if the warning given to my friend, who temped at the Spectator when he worked there, about never getting into a taxi or lift alone with him had any substance behind it, he has no respect for women's bodily autonomy, either.

InsanityRocks · 28/04/2021 08:21

[quote Darker]Anyone interested can see Peter Stefanovic’s video here. It details many of the lies. It’s had over 12 million views.

mobile.twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2[/quote]
Thanks for this. Gives me hope that there are people out there who care about the damage he is doing.

LakieLady I'm envious, I would love to have an Irish passport. I love this country (UK) and feel so lucky to have been born here but I think it will be only a number of years now before Wales, Scotland and Ireland break away (and I don't blame them) and England will be left forever under the Tories

Eyevorbig0ne · 28/04/2021 08:21

I care. But all the opposition slagging him off would be no better in his position. They're all equally vile.
I cannot see any votable party which is worrying.

LakieLady · 28/04/2021 08:22

@NevermindNelson

To those who said that anything was acceptable to get precious ventilators - you do know that Dyson didn’t provide any ventilators, don’t you.

I also don’t care about his sex life, but I do care that his affair partner was given money from government funds and then he lied about that.

I care about his sex life. A man who will lie to his wife will lie to anyone.
BeakyWinder · 28/04/2021 08:23

I've never voted Conservative yet they get in every time, so it makes no difference whether I believe him or not, my vote doesn't make any difference.

Darker · 28/04/2021 08:28

Beaky that’s so depressing. My constituency is more of a swing vote area so my vote does count. It will be interesting to see what happens on the 6th.

skirk64 · 28/04/2021 08:28

I'm old enough to know that all politicians are liars. They will say what they think you want to hear, they will say what they need to say to get elected, they will say whatever is necessary to protect their position.

Johnson is no worse than any other of the current crop of politicians. If you compare him to Blair, he's actually pretty honest.

BTW if Sir Kier actually wants to be elected, he needs to realise that people will be more likely to vote for him if he spends his days explaining why his party will be a better prospect, telling us what he will actually do to improve things. Like Corbyn, like Milliband, all he does is criticise. Opposition isn't just about contradicting the government, it is about providing a credible alternative.

I actually give Johnson more leeway because I know whatever he does, Starmer will say it's wrong. There's no point listening to Starmer because you know exactly what his angle will be.

IpanemaChic · 28/04/2021 08:32

The dyson ventilator example matters because companies with years of experience who could have provided ventilators were passed over to give a prominent Brexitier business because it looked good.

Yes I care.

SteveArnottsCodeine · 28/04/2021 08:32

I care but then I’ve never voted for him.

peanutbutterjimjams · 28/04/2021 08:33

What a sorry state of affairs (pun intended) when a morally bankrupt, lying, racist, misogynist is PM.

His lies about Jennifer Arcuri, the corrupt deals, the scandal after scandal brushed under the carpet.

Pre-Trump era, prime ministers would have been forced to resign for much less.

I hope Starmer rakes him over the coals today at PMQs. And the speaker actually makes him answer the bloody questions.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6%3famp

Bearnecessity · 28/04/2021 08:33

The notion Boris is more intrinsically dishonest than any other politician is ridiculous. No I don't care....Labour do not walk on water and shit angelic feathers. They have their Whatsapp groups etc and I wouldn't trust Labour to reorganise my fridge never mind run the country and the idea that they would be doing a better job if in power completely disregards their history of incompetence and is desperately laughable imo.

Shouldittcnow · 28/04/2021 08:33

Oh damn I voted wrong.

Yes I care! A lot!

LakieLady · 28/04/2021 08:34

You are in the wrong, and only want to move on because you have been found out and can't lie your way out of it.

Spot on. The man is utterly shameless.

DenisetheMenace · 28/04/2021 08:35

Yes, I care but suspect lots of people don’t.

Quincie · 28/04/2021 08:39

John Major had an affair with Edwina Curry - so not that saintly.