Devastated DD denied special school

[Sendsystemsucks]

Will be appealing, but just another fight to be had.

DD is primary age dx ASD, ADHD, dyspraxia, dyslexia and language disorder. On a part time timetable. When in school DD parallel learns and spends 70% of her school time with her 1-1 in the hallway on her own. She has been known to hit, kick, bite, throw chairs and run off.

Apparantly mainstream can meet her needs and she doesn't need special school.

AIBU to think she needs special school?

[EverythingsComingUpRoses]

No you aren't wrong and your username is very apt

[MildredPuppy]

Yes the send system suck.

[DrManhattan]

Good luck in entering the endurance test that is getting a place in a specialist setting.

[Viviennemary]

Is home schooling her not a possibility if the main stream school isn't suitable.

[Wolfiefan]

So sorry OP. Have you posted elsewhere? You’ll get lots of good advice if you ask the experts in the SEN (wrong name? Sorry!) board. It’s a shit system that leaves parents battling to try and get the needs of their children met.
Wishing you all the best.

[pinksquash13]

It's the system. Sounds like mainstream school is not right. Appeal, appeal and then appeal again. Good luck and sending you strength!

[KingsArmy]

Gather all your energy reserves for the forthcoming battle you face - and good luck!

[Thatwentbadly]

I really feel for you. It’s shouldn’t have to a battle to get your child an accessible education. There is a dedicated SEN board where you may get some good advice.

[wintersdawn]

You just got your EHCP and been told this? What year is your DD in?
Is there a chance that they are thinking secondary is where the specialist schooling will come in?
It's so hard fighting it every step of the way.

[Foxhasbigsocks]

Presume you have been in touch with IPSEA and spoken to a charity like Contact A Family for advice?

[RandomMess]

Truly shit

[SnarkyBag]

If they could meet her needs she wouldn’t be on a part time timetable (which is unlawful) I would force their hand and insist she attends full time.
Does she have an EHCP? Are school supportive of finding an alternative setting?

[Foxhasbigsocks]

Yanbu it sucks and you are doing amazing to be advocating for her

[Sendsystemsucks]

@Viviennemary I can't realistically manage her at home for homeschooling.

@wolfiefan I have been on and off mumsnet since she was born but not recently. I just can't get my head around it.

[HTPri]

There are many many children in mainstream settings with the needs you describe. Have they had specific schools say they can meet need as first of all your port of call would be to find out how they are saying they will be able to do.

[Sendsystemsucks]

@wintersdawn she started school with an EHCP, they have been saying for 2 years they can't meet her needs and the LA say they need to "be more inclusive".

@SnarkyBagy School won't have her in for full time.

[drspouse]

Mainstream schools are not all the same and where we are there are few options for specialist school at primary (we have one or two in mind for secondary). Did you have a school you preferred?

[Sendsystemsucks]

There are 3 realistic schools that are specialist. DP and I informally shared her EHCP with another mainstream the LA want to consult with and they have said there is no way.

[itsgettingwierd]

Of course you're not wrong.

And the start is to email and say as MS can meet needs she'll be in FT after Easter as there's no reason she cannot be if they can meet needs.

The resultant email of "no" or the fact she can't cope will be good evidence for you.

Plus a judge can see they can't meet need if they can only provide PT and alone in a corridor

[HTPri]

[quote Sendsystemsucks]@wintersdawn she started school with an EHCP, they have been saying for 2 years they can't meet her needs and the LA say they need to "be more inclusive".

@SnarkyBagy School won't have her in for full time.[/quote]
To be honest as a primary HT it sounds like they do. She shouldnt be sat in the corridor for 70% of her time.

They have to have her 100% of the time. They can only go part time with parental agreement and even then its a very grey area.

[SpringTimeDream]

Good luck

[SnarkyBag]

[quote Sendsystemsucks]@wintersdawn she started school with an EHCP, they have been saying for 2 years they can't meet her needs and the LA say they need to "be more inclusive".

@SnarkyBagy School won't have her in for full time.[/quote]
You really need to speak to IPSEA about this then. Schools forcing a part time timetable is completely unlawful.

[Serialcatmum]

Sorry to hear this. 😞

I know this probably won’t help, but do you know if your local special schools are already over subscribed? Unfortunately requests for SEN placements have gone up by 1/3 in the last 5 years yet LAs haven’t put provisions in place (eg built more schools, provided hubs etc) to meet needs.

It has had a direct impact on how many young people they will identify need a SEN placement.

This is absolutely NOT your problem. Please appeal. In the meanwhile I’d suggest asking the current school to ensure they are collating evidence that they cannot meet needs/ a SEN setting would be more appropriate.

[howsicklyarsekissy]

Oh feel for you Op. 1 year 3 months out of Education later I finally have a place for my 13 year old autistic son in a special school. It's a nightmare. I had to get a SEND solicitor involved as sendias were rubbish. My council were rubbish & they had approached some of the same schools 3 times it was horrendous. The solicitor helped massively I would recommend if you can I paid monthly so it wasn't too bad.

[Mugginyouleftrightandcentre]

I thought a school had to have agreement from the parents to do a part time timetable? It doesn't really sound like they are meeting her needs?

I work in a special needs school (MLD) and a lot of the children who come to us further up the school had experiences similar to what your daughter is going through now. I think that spaces are becoming so scarce now though, it's absolute shit.