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AIBU For not wanting people to let there dogs jump up me or my children?

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ILoveMyMonkey · 03/04/2021 18:14

Why do people let their dogs jump up into children’s faces and then use the excuse “but it’s only a puppy” as though that justifies it!
Prime example today, nice country walk with Dh and DS8 minding our own business. Stop to look at the view and this dog comes trotting over. Immediately heads for DS who does not like dogs at all. He stands still and the bloody thing leaps up him inches from his face. I stick my leg between him and the dog so it’s now leaning on my leg and move my leg away from DS to kind of use my leg to lever it away - did not kick or injure it at all. Owner comes over after a few mins and moves dog away with her. Then mutters under her breath about me kicking the dog. I told her I didn’t kick the dog and it shouldn’t have jumped up at DS to which she trots out the age old line of “it’s only a puppy!” So put it on a lead until you can control it then.

Why don’t these people ever just say sorry my dog jumped up at your kids face! Rather than blaming you for simple being there!!!!

Grrrr rant over.

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Alsohuman · 05/04/2021 16:04

I can’t be arsed to RTFT because the millions of dog threads are all the same. But the OP was on a country walk. Out in fields and woods, ie where we appalling dog owners take our dogs to give them some exercise off lead. Is there nowhere we can take our dogs without having to keep the poor buggers on lead to pander to people’s sensibilities now?

ILoveMyMonkey · 05/04/2021 17:35

@Alsohuman
Op here. Maybe you didn’t read my original post properly. I don’t have a problem with dogs being off lead in the countryside! I do have a problem with dogs coming over and jumping up into my sons face when we were standing to the side minding our own business and then the owner of the dog justifying that with the comment it’s just a puppy. Were you that owner perchance?!

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Alsohuman · 05/04/2021 17:37

[quote ILoveMyMonkey]@Alsohuman
Op here. Maybe you didn’t read my original post properly. I don’t have a problem with dogs being off lead in the countryside! I do have a problem with dogs coming over and jumping up into my sons face when we were standing to the side minding our own business and then the owner of the dog justifying that with the comment it’s just a puppy. Were you that owner perchance?![/quote]
Doubt it. Mine’s not a puppy and completely disinterested in any human she doesn’t live with.

ILoveMyMonkey · 05/04/2021 17:42

@Alsohuman right. Well maybe next time you can at least take the time to read the op properly - unless you specifically came on to shit stir.

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Alsohuman · 05/04/2021 17:43

[quote ILoveMyMonkey]@Alsohuman right. Well maybe next time you can at least take the time to read the op properly - unless you specifically came on to shit stir.[/quote]
Don’t pick on me. I’m one of dozens of pp who have disagreed with you. 🤷‍♀️

ILoveMyMonkey · 05/04/2021 17:48

@Alsohuman I’m not picking on you. You came on said:

I can’t be arsed to RTFT because the millions of dog threads are all the same. But the OP was on a country walk. Out in fields and woods, ie where we appalling dog owners take our dogs to give them some exercise off lead. Is there nowhere we can take our dogs without having to keep the poor buggers on lead to pander to people’s sensibilities now?
Which basically suggested that I was in the wrong for being present in the countryside and should therefore accept random dogs jumping up into my sons face. Not one person on this thread agreed with that - but you wouldn’t know as you didn’t rtft! I have never said all dogs should be on leads or not be allowed out in the countryside what I did make very clear was that I’m sick on inconsiderate dog owners allowing their dogs to jump up into my sons face and then justify that by saying “but it’s just a puppy” as if that somehow makes it ok.

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Sunflowergirl1 · 06/04/2021 06:09

"It's a public place and it's fine to exercise dogs off lead unless the place says not to"

Not strictly true. As usual (like with CV legislation) the law is written badly and is a sop to both sides. It doesn't ban dogs off leads but then makes the owner responsible if it is out of control. By definition, you can't control any dog 100% if off a lead as once it runs off and jumps up, attacks or whatever, it is deemed out of control. I know the police are sick and tired of dealing with reports of out of control dogs and this is part of the problem because the law isn't explicit.

rwalker · 06/04/2021 06:26

I had a dog practically jumped in the push chair kicked it to get it off .Owner launched into ones proper lost it again it was just another dog being friendly.

Woman at work driving along dog shot out between 2 parked car sadly she went straight over it and killed it . The owner went ballistic really shook her up and frightened her. He had the dogs lead round his shoulders.

mamahoo · 06/04/2021 06:29

This drives me mad!

I'm really nervous around dogs, and nearly every time I walk the prom there is someone's dog leaping up on me even when it's on a lead. The owner always half laughs at it off as if "oh she's so friendly hehe". I don't give a fuck if it's friendly, please get it away from me.

When they let the dogs off the lead as well and they run at you 100mph. Again, not interested if it's friendly. If it comes at me and jumps at me, it should not be off it's lead!

Wishing14 · 06/04/2021 06:53

Growing up I’ve had dogs all my life, I love dogs. I love dogs more than people. But it is absolutely not ok to let your dog run up to any one, especially a child. You can never trust a dog 100% for the main thing. It’s also an invasion of personal space. It can be terrifying for a small child, even if it’s a friendly dog. Owners need to take responsibility, but so many seem to just half stare with a vague smile in some glazed over vegetative state, like it’s not only perfectly acceptable but positively adorable. My parents also have rescue dogs who are always on leads, and will be quite nasty if a dog runs up to them. I’ve lost count of the owners who when I ask them to control their dogs because these dogs are nervous/ could bite say “oh they’ll learn”. NO control your dogs. If you’ve ever seen a fight between dogs on a lead and those off it’s not pretty and often ends up in the owner holding the dogs being bitten too. I wouldn’t allow my child to stroke a dog without asking the owner, and dog owners should apply the same courtesy. If you want your dog off the lead, it must be trained to recall. Or at least put it on the lead when passing people and make some effort to stop it jumping up into strangers faces.

10YearsOlder · 06/04/2021 07:48

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10YearsOlder · 06/04/2021 07:48

What would happen if someone walked around with a cat under their arm and randomly threw it on passing strangers?

ILoveMyMonkey · 06/04/2021 07:57

@10YearsOlder
What would happen if someone walked around with a cat under their arm and randomly threw it on passing strangers?
😂🤣

I’m glad to see that from every post, dog owners and not dog owners alike, that we are all in agreement that dogs on leads and off leads should not be allowed to jump up at people or other dogs and that owners need to be responsible and ensure good recall. This thread certainly made me feel better about the other day. Still not sure what the solution is mind you and pretty sure it will never change as more and more random, unsuitable people get themselves puppies.

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FireflyRainbow · 06/04/2021 08:01

YANBU my sons recovering from abdominal surgery and we have been on a few short walks. I dog tried jumping up at him the other day and I had to push it away it annoyed me.

ILoveMyMonkey · 06/04/2021 08:08

@FireflyRainbow
Oh gosh, sorry about your son, that just have been really worrying. The last thing he needs is a dog causing damage to his wound - I hope the owner was apologetic at least! Hope he recovers quickly.

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ILoveMyMonkey · 06/04/2021 08:08

*must not just

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emilyfrost · 06/04/2021 08:10

@Alsohuman

I can’t be arsed to RTFT because the millions of dog threads are all the same. But the OP was on a country walk. Out in fields and woods, ie where we appalling dog owners take our dogs to give them some exercise off lead. Is there nowhere we can take our dogs without having to keep the poor buggers on lead to pander to people’s sensibilities now?
No, if your mutt isn’t trained you can’t take it off the lead. It really is that simple.
crazycatgal · 06/04/2021 08:12

Dog owner here, there are a lot of owners that don't have a clue.

I regularly get off-lead dogs running up to me, jumping up at me because I carry treats with me for my own dog. This means that I am always having my coats and jeans dirtied on walks. My dog is 11 months old and knows that you sit for a treat and don't jump up, I don't know why people let their dogs off the lead if they do this. It's not exactly nice to have something heavy like a Labrador jumping up at you.

In the past few weeks a golden retriever was running around the field with its owners on the opposite side completely out of view, it had been rolling around in mud and dog shit. Then it came over to me, jumped up and got dog shit on me.

These things really annoy me as a dog owner, of course you will be annoyed if dogs are doing this to you and your children.

Beeme29 · 06/04/2021 08:13

You are totally right. I am a dog owner and dog lover but I would not let my dog act this way at all. Just because a dog is only a puppy or ‘friendly’ doesn’t mean that everyone appreciates dogs jumping at them. My kids are fine with dogs but don’t like strange dogs running up to them.

Similar to how some owners act around other dogs. My dog doesn’t like other dogs in her personal space and she is always on a lead. We have had other dogs running up to us but the other owners say ‘it’s friendly’ well mine isn’t comfortable so bleddy recall it!!

Mummadeze · 06/04/2021 08:17

I was having a picnic with my DD and a dog came and started trying to eat our food. I had to stand up and lift our food in the air to get it away from it. The owner was a real distance away and not doing much. Just calling it. I shouted at her to get it away from us and eventually she came over and took it away. 5 minutes later, it came running back and did the same thing. She was still so far away I couldn’t even see her. Took her ages to come back to get it. I got really cross second time. How dare the dog eat food I have purchased for me and my DD and why the hell isn’t she doing anything to stop it. She was rude back to me and annoyed at me being annoyed. Ridiculous

Nonmaquillee · 06/04/2021 08:22

Totally agree. Have had loads of dogs jump up, sometimes getting my clothes dirty in the process. Has also happened when my children were younger.
Never, ever has a dog owner apologised for this. Never. They don't even catch your eye. Some even laugh - oh, don't worry, he's so playful! He likes children!
Well I don't know that and now I have mud on my coat.
Arrogant tossers.

FireflyRainbow · 06/04/2021 08:38

@iLoveMyMonkey the owner did give us a cheerful sorry, I think some owners think its normal and people like it. My son was fine though and is healing well, thank you.

Justilou1 · 06/04/2021 09:50

I have come back to this to compare it to previous job I had as a flight attendant. The number of times I have had to explain to parents that not everyone thought their toddlers and small kids were as adorable as they did - and they needed to round them up and supervise them, or I’d be giving the other passengers permission to put them in an overhead locker, or giving them copious quantities of coke and wine and let them play in the toilet. (Wouldn’t, of course, but tempted!) NOBODY thinks your dog is as adorable as you do! Put the damn thing on a leash! (And your kid, too!)

BogRollBOGOF · 06/04/2021 10:10

I had two "puppy" incidents on consecutive days a few weeks ago.

First one, in the local woods, dog runs up to my 7yo who is standing still. I tried to put my hand down to distract for a sniff as the dog approached but the dog made a beeline for DS, jumps up into his waist leaving mud on his coat. DS is obviously startled and complains. Owner gets stroppy about a child having the audacity to exist and be distressed about his dog's actions. Just says it's a puppy, makes not attempt to recall, control, or train the dog.

Next day I'm running on quiet rural footpaths. See a dog, slow down, owner tries to call dog back but dog ignores and bounces up at and around me. Owner appologetic, "it's a puppy" and approaches to get it back on the lead.

In 12 months, I'd much rather meet dog 2 as while there was a lapse (and my children would have been distressed if present), the dog is making an effort to train the dog. That place is quiet enough to let the dog off with a low risk of dusturbance to others.
To be unappologetic about failing to train the puppy in an area where you are guaranteed to encounter families and other dogs is a faliure of meeting your responsibilities to your pet and society.

My DCs' mistrust of dogs is entirely down to too many encounters with uncontrolled dogs, right back to being sniffed around at in the pram including a dog trying to take food out of one's hand. Too many dogs that dwarf toddlers looming at them or knocking them over. I've trained my children to stand still and occasionally DS2 can gain enough confidence to ask the owner of a calm dog for a stroke but is too often set back by another encounter with an intimidating "friendly dog". I have been known to respond to "he's friendly!" with "my child isn't!".

I like dogs, just not the ones owned by feckless owners who ruin it for everyone else including the responsible owners.

Mrgrinch · 06/04/2021 10:15

You did nothing wrong. I have also moved dogs with my foot before and I wouldn't consider it kicking.

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