Report that says Institutional Racism doesn't exist and more ...

[Dustyboots]

Is no one else angry about this?

I can't find any other threads about it.

What is going on?

And the bit that says the “slave period”, was not just about “profit and suffering” and argues that the era was also about how “culturally African people transformed themselves into a re-modelled African/Britain”.

Are people unaware of this? Or do we just no longer care ...

I agree @tropicallama In most cases, it's more than just an issue of race.

Yes it’s just down to laziness then.
Except it’s not. A pp mentioned the history with Caribbean boys being classed as lower ability in the 60s and 70s. The small axe series addressed this in one of the episodes.
My son was continually put in lower groups at a young age. When I complained as he was reading well and working well with numbers etc with me, he was given an IQ test and I was told it was borderline. Luckily I had good advice at the time. I was a trainee teacher. The very experienced teacher I was working with questioned firstly why he was given the test and also the motivation. She also told me to get him out which I did.
By KS1 sats he was GD and went on to grammar school, passing in the top 1% of candidates.
That makes it sound as if everything since has been plain sailing. It hasn’t and there is a continued pattern of under predictions.
Quite frankly, this report and some of the above comments make me really angry.
Maybe by A level some students disengage because constantly being treated like this is wearing and especially wearing is being told that it’s not happening except it is.
‘Generalised ‘ observations based on the ethnicity of your students are part of the problem. I’m sure some of the teachers we have encountered have equally ‘ generalised’ opinions .

whenthebellsring

The point here is that the same thing happens all the time (including in this report) where one group's issues or success is used as a blanket judgement for all the groups within the group. I agree it's necessary to break things down and look into different root causes. So while this is a race issue, it's also a class, economic and cultural issue. It's unhelpful to pick one or the other

I agree.

Young working class males in past generations would have been working at 16, 14 in some cases. They would have taken pride in their work. The jobs have gone, they have to stay on in education and see themselves failing at it. There are lots of programmes aimed at supporting people of colour but there are perceived, wrongly, to be none for white working class boys. The system is seen by some white boys as being stacked in favour of people of colour so you get more racism.

The narrative of "institutional racism", the victim mentality, the echo chamber of social media - I'd agree none of that helps. Sometimes it's positively dangerous - as with the blaming of poor pregnancy outcomes on racism instead of focusing on what can and should be changed. As I've posted on the ambulance chaser thread what could change rapidly is communicating messages about what causes poor outcomes, what signs you need to be aware of for heart disease and asking about aspirin if you are high risk for pre-eclampsia.

Perhaps the report was Boris trying to say to his own party we really have to do something for the working class.

The system is stacked in favour of the white middle class not people of colour. Admittedly some policies, particularly around housing, have been massively detrimental to some traditionally white, working class communities.
As in my post above, I am middle class enough now to watch carefully and take action. I have got my sons through but I have no doubt what the outcomes would have been otherwise. They would have been another statistic on low achieving Caribbean boys. Some mumsnetters would have been falling over themselves to blame the culture and laziness.
Please can we also not blame black mothers for excess maternity deaths. To actually not think that there are differences in care is deliberate blindness to racism.
It seems like racism is the one thing that can’t be named now.

If you look at the report on maternal deaths you will see that the main cause is cardiovascular deaths. There are warning signs for that and all pregnant women should be aware of them. That is nothing to do with skin colour, unless you wish to claim that women of colour are unable to read. Also not enough women are on aspirin when at risk of pre-eclampsia. Women of colour may be more at risk for that as although not on the NHS website some people think it is relevant, perhaps because there is more diabetes www.nhs.uk/conditions/pre-eclampsia/

You can shout about racism or you can try and get these messages across to women who would benefit from hearing them. www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/assets/downloads/mbrrace-uk/reports/MBRRACE-UK%20Maternal%20Report%202019%20-%20Infographic%20v1.0.pdf

Getting those messages across will save lives - and could be doing so next week. Once you've done that you can see how many deaths are still occurring and if racism features in that. But when you focus solely on perceived racism without looking at what can be changed quickly you damage the people you claim you want to help.

So women need to be more aware of the signs. That is your point....shouldn’t their health care providers be looking for the signs too.
I’m guessing you are white. What you don’t seem to realise is that some people are listened too more than others. Some ask and are dismissed.
You seem determined to put everything down to culture and behaviour. You don’t even seem to realise how absolutely insulting that is. It’s the same old same old however it’s dressed up.

Listened to

@Blackberrycream

But you have to take all the identifiable things out of the equation to see what is left and where it is coming from/who is driving it, don’t you?

For example, poor healthcare is linked to housing issues. It all has a knock on effect.

I agree @ Smurfsarethefuture but there is a bit of an undertone to some of the posts. It is a complex issue but sometimes spider senses tingle with phrases like ‘ shouting about racism ‘ ‘perceived racism ‘ ‘ if racism figures in that ‘ ‘ unless you wish to claim that women of colour can’t read’. There will be other contributing factors but race will be part of it. The differentials in death rates are not negligible. People are very keen sometimes to lecture over people and tell them that what they are experiencing isn’t happening. It’s part of the reason I felt so upset about the recent anti semitism controversy. I saw the same happening to others.
I have posted previously ( not sure if under this username) about losing a close family member to medical negligence. Race was a factor in misdiagnosis, acknowledged by the NHS. That’s really all I want to say about that.
Class and poverty are definitely part of the equation. It is not the whole picture though.

@Blackberrycream

Sorry to hear that, Blackberry. I can well believe what you say about spidery senses. It’s very easy sometimes to sense where, inside themselves, someone is responding from.

Thanks @Smurfsarethefuture
I’m going to some lighthearted threads now 😀