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Piers Morgan related. What is wrong with people?

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Tinkerbell456 · 29/03/2021 09:56

Okay, not fond of a lot the man has to say. However, his sons, admittedly grown of course, are receiving death threats over Meghan.

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Nanny0gg · 29/03/2021 20:39

@gingganggooleywotsit

Sorry, but Piers lives by the sword, he dies by the sword.
Don't think he's making death threats to anyone...
BuggerBognor · 29/03/2021 20:45

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Alsohuman · 29/03/2021 20:47

Find one from someone you are willing to listen to

I’ve found plenty, including the three I just mentioned. If the magnificent Maya Angelou can’t make me understand, there’s frankly no hope for me. Fortunately she did.

DioneTheDiabolist · 29/03/2021 20:49

Wow you really did miss the point of that article spectacularly @BuggerBognor.Shock Nevermind, I'm sure that you can find an explaination that you understand, elsewhere.

BuggerBognor · 29/03/2021 20:54

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DioneTheDiabolist · 29/03/2021 21:23

Try adding some living writers to reading list. Black experience, knowledge and wisdom did not die with Maya Angelou.Hmm @Alsohuman, you asked what she would think now. I think she would understand the anger and pain. I think she would be sad that her followers' engagement with black people ended with her death.Sad

Alsohuman · 29/03/2021 21:49

@BuggerBognor

Tbh *@Alsohuman* mentioning the author of that ridiculous diatribe in the same breath as Alice Walker and Maya Angelou feels a tiny bit like blasphemy. (I’ve never read Toni Morrison, but I should).
I get that and you’re right, opposite ends of the spectrum. I’m off to research some contemporary black women writers now. Thank you for the Helena Kennedy recommendation, it’s on my list.
Stoppissingonmyheather · 29/03/2021 21:50

No death threats are never OK but perhaps he should have thought of that when trashing u know who, who has received far more death threats and hostility hate etc than he probably ever will and this is mostly I have to say all down to him and his media chums who take such delight in slating her and others to the ground tough shit piers perhaps it might teach you to think before you open your big vitriol filled gob

Stoppissingonmyheather · 29/03/2021 21:56

How about we say we don't believe you piers wouldn't believe a word you say its all lies made up for attention grabbing bla bla bla wha then?

BuggerBognor · 29/03/2021 22:04

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rosetylersbiggun · 29/03/2021 22:06

IF Piers' sons have received death threats then that's terrible but his years-long vitriolic obsession with an actress he'd developed an obsessive crush on from seeing her on TV long before he met her, who he's only ever met once, is extremely disturbing.

And yes, it's verified that Piers and Meghan only met once, to those pushing the nasty victim-blaming lie that Meghan was "friends with him."

How typical that a thread about Piers has devolved into an attack on Meghan fans, and tedious racism and racism-denial.

"Oh racism doesn't exist." "Prove to me that racism exists." "No, not like that." "I don't like your tone so I'll dismiss everything you're saying." "I'm not going to be against racism because one black woman spoke in a way I've decided is overly aggressive SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BLACK WOMEN IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT IF YOU WERE NICER WE'D CARE ABOUT RACISM."

Just another day in White Supremacist Mumsnet Land.

(And lol at the accusation that Meghan fans are paid bots and have taken over the Internet - if that's true then how come none of them have found out about Mumsnet, one of the main homes of vicious and obsessive Meghan-hate? There are only about three or four posters who ever stand up against the tidal wave of weird, disturbing hate-froth and all of us are obviously active and long-term Mumsnetters who regularly post on all sorts of threads. And please remember that all the 'bad behaviour' on Meghan threads - personal abuse, being caught sockpuppeting, posting after being banned, flooding the board with unrelated images to get threads shut down, derailing threads to get them deleted, posting racial slurs, harassing and doxing posters off-board, making false reports, going to other forums to discuss the best tactics to get the 'other side' banned and deleted - 100% of that bad behaviour has been from anti-Meghan posters. But don't worry if you don't remember, because I'll be here to remind you. Repeatedly. Grin)

Devlesko · 29/03/2021 22:19

His family deserve all our pity, it must be awful being related to him anyway, without having death threats,
No, Piers is a self serving narcissist, he'll manage to make it all about him.

DeeCeeCherry · 29/03/2021 22:51

rosetylersbiggun

IF Piers' sons have received death threats then that's terrible but his years-long vitriolic obsession with an actress he'd developed an obsessive crush on from seeing her on TV long before he met her, who he's only ever met once, is extremely disturbing

And yes, it's verified that Piers and Meghan only met once, to those pushing the nasty victim-blaming lie that Meghan was "friends with him."

How typical that a thread about Piers has devolved into an attack on Meghan fans, and tedious racism and racism-denial

"Oh racism doesn't exist." "Prove to me that racism exists." "No, not like that." "I don't like your tone so I'll dismiss everything you're saying." "I'm not going to be against racism because one black woman spoke in a way I've decided is overly aggressive SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BLACK WOMEN IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT IF YOU WERE NICER WE'D CARE ABOUT RACISM."

Just another day in White Supremacist Mumsnet Land

(And lol at the accusation that Meghan fans are paid bots and have taken over the Internet - if that's true then how come none of them have found out about Mumsnet, one of the main homes of vicious and
obsessive Meghan-hate? There are only about three or four posters who ever stand up against the tidal wave of weird, disturbing hate-froth and all of us are obviously active and long-term Mumsnetters who regularly post on all sorts of threads. And please remember that all the 'bad behaviour' on Meghan threads - personal abuse, being caught
sockpuppeting, posting after being banned, flooding the board with unrelated images to get threads shut down derailing threads to get them deleted, posting racial slurs, harassing and doxing posters off-board, making false reports, going to other forums to discuss the best tactics to get the 'other side' banned and deleted - 100% of that bad behaviour has been from anti-Meghan posters. But don't worry if you don't remember, because I'll be here to remind you. RepeatedlyGrin

All of this.

Racists who are here to shut down voices against White male privilege who is using that privilege to hassle women.

Women's rights, women's safety, none of that trumps a man's right to be a hateful cyber-stalker for years. As long as they don't like the woman/she doesn't look like them, she is fair game.

& Then there's all the other things he's done - Millie Dowler, sacked for sexual harassment, printing false news just a few. All the things they want actively ignored, and aim to shut down discussion because, you know (alleged)"death threats".

As for those demanding an explanation of racism and breakdown as to why the odious "I send my shit in a bag to people I don't like" Sharon Osbourne said - No way.

Read "Why I'm No Longer Talking To White People About Race". Or not. Who cares.

I'm mindful this is the board where a Black Mumsnetters section had to be created after disgusting racism against a poster, including doxxing her. If I were her I'd have got the police involved.

There's not a pin to choose between male racist, sexist, misogynist bigots and the women who support them.

They're rattled because their voices are no longer as important as they once were. & Not before time.

DioneTheDiabolist · 29/03/2021 23:29

His family deserve all our pity, it must be awful being related to him anyway, without having death threats,

I feel most sorry for his wife @Devlesko. It must be embarrasing to have a husband so publicly obsessed with another woman. And then to make a holy show of himself and flounce out of a perfectly good job over it.Shock Its humiliating.Sad

Roussette · 29/03/2021 23:30

Yes yes and yes. Rose and Dee.
How anyone can defend the odious stalker PM, I do not know.

Yet when he's called out just once, he strops off. A typical cowardly pathetic bully who daily indulged himself in a hate campaign against a woman who sussed him out and distanced herself after countless creepy embarrassing tweets on and on about how fantastic, clever, talented, and beautiful she was. Pathetic man.

Of course death threats are appalling, that goes without saying.

All this Sharon Osbourne 'educate me' crap is pathetic. I personally know I need to always learn and aim to do that ongoing, I do not expect others to help me with that, it's up to me, not anyone else.

DioneTheDiabolist · 30/03/2021 10:35

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Sandra15 · 01/04/2021 13:19

@BuggerBognor

I don’t think anyone is saying that PM’s behaviour or language is okay. They are questioning whether it’s accurate to call him racist (and by extension, those who defend him).

The article you linked is clearly racially prejudiced and derogatory of white people (especially women - quite surprising for a so-called feminist). I don’t think you can excuse discriminatory language because of context.

You seem to think being angry and having a point makes it okay. I think two wrongs don’t make a right.

That article by Shana Pinnock makes her sound deranged. "Beige brigade" is racist, calling Piers Morgan an "incel" is factually incorrect and utterly childish (not to mention gaslighting), and the whole tirade is full of sweeping statements about all white women. It's a disgrace. Piers Morgan is a gobshite (as is Sharon Osbourne) but I do not believe he ever had romantic intentions towards Markle, and those who bang this drum are using it to gaslight and silence him.
Emeraldshamrock · 01/04/2021 13:35

He actively used his fame to drive hate towards MM.
I don't agree with the death threats.
PM came across as deranged at times.
The interview on RTE with PM showed a man with a hurt ego.

TurquoiseDress · 01/04/2021 13:39

The death threats are most certainly not acceptable

But I think PM said what many were thinking re the 'interview', he's definitely doesn't hold back when calling out bullshit

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