Piers Morgan related. What is wrong with people?

[Tinkerbell456]

Okay, not fond of a lot the man has to say. However, his sons, admittedly grown of course, are receiving death threats over Meghan.

Piers Morgan didn't threaten anyone, his sons have nothing to do with it. Anyone making threats should be dealt with and I think that means prison time.

As for the bullying of Sharon Osborne I think it is awful. An elderly Jewish woman being lectured on prejudice? People are pathetic.

You simply have to be you. Not asking you to open up more than wished and I apologise if I made you feel as though I don’t value your opinion.

I'm a big fan on piers and I was do glad he stood up for what he believed in.

Mrgrinch, me too.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

I'm gonna say what I think a lot of people are thinking.

I see a lot of celebs and influencers allegedly receiving "death threats". But in a world where everything is exaggerated and catastrophised, is it a case where actual real and likely threats are being made and abject fear is being instilled into them...or is it more like messages from trolls saying "die".

It seems to me the "Ive been receiving death threats" is wheeled out every time a celebrity has said or done something they shouldn't have, and they want to turn the tables and look like the victim 🤷‍♀️

Celebrities have been killed or attacked though so how do they know?

Anonymous threats can spook you. Many years ago I worked for the police, civilian staff, I was working with a team investigating a gang and I started getting weird phone calls about one of my children, he was 7 and a man would phone and say about wanting to take him out for a drink. Nothing actually threatening but very weird. It was taken seriously and for a time he had plain clothes officers following him and his big brother to school, it was local and they walked there with their friends. Police didn't want me to change anything but promised to keep him safe. My phone number was changed. Nothing ever happened but it worried me for a long time and the phone number changing stopped the calls but left me wondering if he was still trying to contact us.

I don't think it is fair to dismiss peoples fears.

I'm a big fan on piers and I was do glad he stood up for what he believed in.

I am not sure that Piers does ' believe in ' half the stuff he says, he is paid to be controversial. I think sometimes people forget that.

He is paid to be controversial. Let’s not forget that.

I don’t care about misspelling controversial.A controversial point of view but.....

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

I'm gonna say what I think a lot of people are thinking.

I see a lot of celebs and influencers allegedly receiving "death threats". But in a world where everything is exaggerated and catastrophised, is it a case where actual real and likely threats are being made and abject fear is being instilled into them...or is it more like messages from trolls saying "die".

It seems to me the "Ive been receiving death threats" is wheeled out every time a celebrity has said or done something they shouldn't have, and they want to turn the tables and look like the victim 🤷‍♀️

Tbh the people that think like that tend to be idiots who tie themselves in knots to try to excuse male violence and pretend that certain 'threats' are ok depending on who is making them and who is on the receiving end. It reminds me of the people who said similar about Joanna Cherry - 'oh lots of people get threats and it's not that bad' . Someone has just been charged for the threats she received. They were that bad. There should be zero tolerance towards threat. Zero.

Adore or dispise him Piers is or rather should be allowed an opinion, and
. We all know what they say about opinions, don't we. Disliking Meghan Markle doesn't make him a racist.
Who are all these people making these death threats, against his sons.
They should be arrested and charged. If it was Piers making death threats he'd be hauled over the coals.

Meghan didn’t need help with people hating her, she managed that all by herself.

@BuggerBognor

Death threats wrong.

Piers Morgan did not deserve to be sacked in relation to those specific comments, although his obsessive stalking and badmouthing of Meghan is/was weird and creepy.

Sharon Osborne did even less wrong than Piers.

You don't think he should have been sacked for the obsessive stalking which was actually incessant bullying sponsored by his employers.

Meghan and Harry get death threats but I don't see many threads on MN worrying about them.

@ancientgran

Piers Morgan didn't threaten anyone, his sons have nothing to do with it. Anyone making threats should be dealt with and I think that means prison time.

As for the bullying of Sharon Osborne I think it is awful. An elderly Jewish woman being lectured on prejudice? People are pathetic.

Oh ffs. She is known as a bully. She got called out on being a bully. It has nothing to do with her being jewish.

You don't think he should have been sacked for the obsessive stalking which was actually incessant bullying sponsored by his employers.

This is what I mean. He was happy to bully from afar because he thinks he clever, or funny, or he simply hates MM. But there's outrage when his sons get so called death threats? PM can fuck right off. I'm not a Meghan fan but his obsession and ranting was creepy AF he went too far

OTOH I'm pleased to see Sharon Osbourne FINALLY taken down a peg to two. I read her autobiography (well a quarter of it before chucking it in the recycling) years ago and she stole Ozzy off his first wife and spent about three chapters being nasty about her appearance and fashion sense. I gave up entirely when she described how she took a dump in a Tiffany box and sent it to someone she hates. Not to mention how she bullied Danni Minogue on the X Factor. Awful, vile woman

Death threats shouldn't be happening but this is a subject which is highly emotive

Isn't it usually said on here that "anything after the but doesn't count"?
I'd have thought that something like death threats could be condemned unequivocally, but it seems not

It's true people have always received them for having an opinion; however in the same post you mentioned promoting change ... so isn't this also a change that would be worth making, or is it somehow less important if you agree with the POV of those doing the threatening?

I also cannot stand Sharon Osborne. And I agree @Tinkerbell456 that the vitriol against Piers and his family is dreadful.

I think the obsession was very odd too BUT making death threats is never acceptable. And to family members... It is scary there are so many weirdos out there. The trouble is that insane and angry people now have an outlet for their bile - ie social media.

I was just thinking about the BBC and their “oddball of the day” on the website to whom they give a voice. It is becoming the tyranny of the minority. Instead of a tiny number of people with obscure or dangerous opinions being hidden, they now seem to have a presence and influence far greater than they merit.

J K Rowling received death threats, people arguing for the necessity of crisis centres catering for biological women, objecting against women in all-female contact sports being beaten to a pulp, or those who are key members of prominent feminist political groups, all received death threats. A psychiatrist who specialises in the abuse of women and wrote a book called 'Why Women are Blamed for Everything', have received death threats. Others haven't gone so far as to issue death threats but relentlessly bully, persecute and browbeat others. Morgan is one of these. It's all part of a similar problem, and on this I think he's right, though hardly in a position to preach the moral high ground.

Morgan has been doing this to Markle for a number of years. He behaved like an obsessed stalker whose fixation and vitriol was bordering on alarming and IMO he should have been sanctioned for this by his employers long before things escalated this far. It's not simply about being persecuted for 'expressing an opinion'. But about the threats to his sons (or himself, for that matter), he's rights It seems that anyone who falls foul of the party line as far as 'wrongthink' is concerned becomes fair game for social media persecution and bullying/threatening behaviour that's escalated to a very sinister level.

In most circumstances I'd consider myself very anti-censorship. Perhaps things have escalated to the point where some form of regulation, ensuring people bear responsibility for they say and do online (whether in the form of wrongthink or rightthink) might be worth considering. It's a dangerous gamble, though. We could be getting Humberside Police phoning citizens for liking alleged 'transphobic' limericks on Twitter to 'check their thinking'.

I don't know what the answer is. I despise Morgan. And he has the right to speak freely, and others have the right to respond in the negative if they so choose. But there's a line.

I get that Sharon Osborne is obnoxious, deserving of opprobrium etc, but nobody has yet informed me what explicitly racist thing she did that got her fired?

Good point. I'd still like to hear from someone as to exactly what J K Rowling said that was 'allegedly' transphobic. So far I've seen all sorts of elaborate explications about how only trans people are entitled to make that call, and how no one else has the right to tell them what is and isn't transphobic. (Rhetoric sound familiar?)

Lots of hedging. But still no clear, cogent response as to what she's said that's transphobic.

Piers Morgan wasn't sacked.

Sharon Osborne was sacked and rightly so, her behaviour towards her colleagues was and has been disgusting.

People issuing death and rape threats on the internet should be punished sharply, quickly and with minimum fuss. Like speeding fines.

I do think that sending death threats has become a bit of a trend.

Of course the authorities have to take them seriously and I’m by no means suggesting that anyone is making up the fact they’re receiving so-called death threats, but it does seem to be the done thing now for someone to issue a so-called death threat to someone who has pissed them off. And I would like to bet that to the issuers these are words and nothing more. It’s pathetic and high time the authorities started making examples of some of them.

Sharon Osbourne allegedly used racial and homophobic slurs towards colleagues as reported by Yashar Ali. Personally I'm not comfortable repeating them on here.
If you google her name and the reporter's name it comes up straight away.