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Piers Morgan related. What is wrong with people?

195 replies

Tinkerbell456 · 29/03/2021 09:56

Okay, not fond of a lot the man has to say. However, his sons, admittedly grown of course, are receiving death threats over Meghan.

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MummyJ12 · 29/03/2021 12:42

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

Adore or dispise him Piers is or rather should be allowed an opinion, and . We all know what they say about opinions, don't we. Disliking Meghan Markle doesn't make him a racist. Who are all these people making these death threats, against his sons. They should be arrested and charged. If it was Piers making death threats he'd be hauled over the coals.
Totally agree. He is entitled to his opinions, it is important we keep our right to have the freedom of speech. All of this cancel culture is very worrying. For example, here on MN a lot of the deleted posts on some threads, (particularly H&M related threads) point to that our right to have an opinion is being eroded and steering the narrative in a direction. Racism is not ok, no prejudices are ok, but opinions should not be censored because people don’t like something or someone. It’s actually counterproductive in the fight against racism. Yes the Sussex squad and megbots seem to be a thing on all SM platforms now. They want to silence criticism of any kind. Piers wasn’t sacked as PP has said above.
Foxyloxy1plus1 · 29/03/2021 12:43

Piers. Morgan had come to believe that he was invincible; an opinion endorsed by his co hosts and the people behind GMB. He was surprised to find that he wasn’t. So was Sharon Osborne. I think he is an arrogant, hypocritical, sleazy individual, who has no respect for anyone other than himself.

No one deserves death threats in that situation.

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FreekStar · 29/03/2021 12:44

Piers Morgan is a nasty little man. It wasn't a one off opinionated comment he made about Meghan on ITV, it was the culmination of a campaign he has waged against her for the last few years- mostly done through his platform in the Daily Mail, which has been powerful enough to change and affect public opinion of her. It shouldn't be allowed and although I feel his sons don't deserve death threats, I would have no sympathy for Piers if something horrible happened to him.

stevematekatemate · 29/03/2021 12:47

I have no issue with PM saying and standing by what he believes in.

What I have objection to is anyone having a different opinion to his not being allowed to have that opinion and to express it without PM roaring over the top of them. I am all for debate where people have the right to reply but PM doesn’t allow that. Not just on the subject of MM. It is pretty much any and all subjects.

The morning in particular, PM was disgraceful. Again, he can have his opinion but his behaviour was completely irrational and unprofessional. Then he walked out when questioned on his behaviour by Alex Beresford. Imagine if anyone he was interviewed walked out. They would be vilified.

That said, his kids don’t deserve threats at all.

EsmaCannonball · 29/03/2021 12:50

Piers Morgan is a total knob, but the point about Meghan Markle is she didn't care about his total knobbishness when she thought he might be useful to her. I don't blame her for dropping him, but I do question her values in cultivating him in the first place. Whenever Meghan stans say Piers is this, that and the other, I think, yes, and that's who Meghan thought could advance her prospects.

As for the death threats, there are crazies on both sides of the argument, but the Meghan fans seem to be the most vocal. (There are strong suggestions of paid bots.) Camilla Tominey, another journalist I'm not exactly fond of, wrote a better article very recently, concerning the threats royal reporters are dealing with in Megxit times.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 29/03/2021 12:53

What do people mean when they say MM 'dropped' PM? did she drop him on his head?

Alsohuman · 29/03/2021 12:54

@AnyFucker

I don’t think anything Piers Morgan has said or done justifies his family, or anyone else, being threatened like this
Nor do I. It’s absurd that anyone should get threats of any kind because they don’t believe someone else.
Wakingup55643 · 29/03/2021 12:55

Nobody should be getting death threats for any reason. I don't have a strong opinion either way on MM, but PM has been really weird about her, and if I was her, I would feel so uncomfortable about it. PM must be really cut up about her rejecting him, as the point where he snapped and walked out of GMB was exactly the moment when this was brought up.

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IHateThinkingUpANewUsername · 29/03/2021 13:03

Yes, of course it’s terrible PM sons are getting death threats, absolutely not ok.
PM also shouldn’t have incited hatred against Meghan, leading to death threats against her. Hmm

TheSparkleJar · 29/03/2021 13:04

Is there any proof of this or is it Pier's latest bout of Meghan related hysteria?

MummyJ12 · 29/03/2021 13:05

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

What do people mean when they say MM 'dropped' PM? did she drop him on his head?
They were apparently quite friendly until she became serious with Harry and started to “ghost” PM. Obviously PM is quite bitter having experienced MM’s social climbing tendencies himself.
DioneTheDiabolist · 29/03/2021 13:08

She was fired specifically over an exchange in which it is difficult to deduce anything offensive, much less racist.

Maybe you found it difficult to deduce anything offensive or racist in her behaviour @BuggerBognor, but thankfully most people saw it for what it was.

Alsohuman · 29/03/2021 13:11

@DioneTheDiabolist

She was fired specifically over an exchange in which it is difficult to deduce anything offensive, much less racist.

Maybe you found it difficult to deduce anything offensive or racist in her behaviour @BuggerBognor, but thankfully most people saw it for what it was.

I watched it. Even her accuser could find nothing concrete on which to base her accusations but resorted to some word salad about shade and nuance.
UntamedWisteria · 29/03/2021 13:12

I expect MM gets death threats too, partly due to shit-stirring by people like Piers Morgan.

They won't go public about those though.

raincamepouringdown · 29/03/2021 13:14

@SeasonFinale

You mean his son who is just as vociferous and nasty on twitter as him? Surely he is getting the reaction he is seeking in the same way as his father is. They thrive on it. If it were an innocent person being tarred with the same brush without any input from them then yes I would agree its not on. But take a look at his own tweets, he courts it the way his dad does (frequently tagging his Dad to get more likes/retweets) so nah can't feel pity other than the usual surprise that people feel it is ok to respond in that manner.
If this is true, then I agree.
user1471505494 · 29/03/2021 13:15

@CloudFormations

Of course it’s not ok. Hopefully it will help Piers learn how wrong he was to incite such huge levels of hate against Meghan. Maybe having seen his sons experience death threats he will feel suitable ashamed that his behaviour led to Meghan receiving death threats.

Sadly I don’t think he has the decency for that, but we can hope.

Saying that you totally disagree with what someone has said is not inciting hatred . Freedom of speech is important in both sides of an argument
ancientgran · 29/03/2021 13:17

Oh ffs. She is known as a bully. She got called out on being a bully. It has nothing to do with her being jewish. Oh yes because you can say boo to MM and it is a racist boo but picking on Jews? Well that goes back centuries doesn't it.

Faultymain5 · 29/03/2021 13:19

As for the bullying of Sharon Osborne I think it is awful. An elderly Jewish woman being lectured on prejudice? People are pathetic.

Have you actually watched the Talk? Sharon was the one doing the bullying, after she ranted about not being a racist she then accused her co-host of "trying to cry". Seriously, she was shocking, though not surprising.

As for your comment about a an elderly Jewish woman..... Having worked within a Jewish law firm (their chosen identifier). I can assure you that all minorities can (and probably should) be lectured on prejudiced, as no-one owns it. Not old jewish women, not black people, not women. We can all only speak from our own experience.

enigma16 · 29/03/2021 13:19

Obviously no-one should receive death threats, but what's your point? Should people stop criticising or disagreeing with him in your opinion? And as someone said, just imagine the abuse MM will have received, no doubt death threats too.

Whatafustercluck · 29/03/2021 13:20

Death threats, against anyone, are contemptible. There is no justification.

Sadly, Piers will use the actions of a small number of people to justify his tirades against the 'woke brigade' as he seeks to minimise and belittle decent, liberal minded people who happen to disagree with his views. Just as a bully does in fact. Othering people who disagree with your point of view is nasty and divisive, particularly at a time when the UK is more divided than it's ever been. Like him or loathe him, he's an influencer who has a mammoth platform for good, should he decide to approach it responsibly and set his ego to one side.

His obsession with MM is dangerous and unfortunately incites a deep seated hatred that is as dangerous to him and his family as it is to Meghan herself. Time to call a truce, lay off and stop perpetuating a deeply unpleasant narrative.

ancientgran · 29/03/2021 13:23

@enigma16

Obviously no-one should receive death threats, but what's your point? Should people stop criticising or disagreeing with him in your opinion? And as someone said, just imagine the abuse MM will have received, no doubt death threats too.
No one has said he shouldn't be criticised, some people agree with him and some don't He is a public figure as is MM so they are targets, doesn't make it OK. His sons aren't public figures so no different to you are me getting a load of death threats, don't know how you feel about that but I wouldn't be happy.