Is anyone else sick of anti police/some of the younger generation in general?

[fizzypop19]

I'm 29 so in no means "old" but I don't know what's happened the past couple of years.

I was bought up to respect police, not break the law. Obviously I have, underage drinking etc yet I've never been in trouble with police. Twitter is full of 17-20 year olds slagging off the police for breaking up protests etc hello we are in a pandemic and I'd really like to be out of lockdown soon?

Was also bought up to not judge anyone by their skin colour, religion, sexual orientation etc I have friends who are gay, black, white, Muslim, Jewish yet none of them understand this whole she/her announce your pronouns stuff, we all just respect each others preferences/views/religions/self identification.

Is anyone else feeling sick of this or am I alone???

Unfortunately Jjop that is not universally the case, nor - I say this as respectfully as possible - nor does your defensive reaction change my experiences in the slightest. Nor does it stop the appalling rape convictions or the predominance of sexist and aggressive behaviour towards women.

We really need the service providers and professionals to stop being so defensive about how hard some of them are trying in a broken system (your complain echoed common ones from teachers and nurses), and start getting angry with the government and that broken system, together with the service users and on our behalf. Collectively we ought to be able to overturn the lack of funding and ridiculously illogical laws that are nowadays everything about ideologies and power-politics, and return them to being focused instead back on the pragmatics of how to do the job these services were invented to do - in the case of the police, keeping everyone safe on the streets.

Sorry to hear that @Ch0c0latechops

I don’t know what to say.

@Jjop
Not all of us think that and personally, I have so much respect for what you have chosen to do and who that makes you as a person. To have to look into the details of violent, sexual crime cannot be easy and I hope you can feel satisfaction and pride in being the person responsible for policing this so the rest of us are safe x

@MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes

And like most things we start by recognising the positive and good in every system - the people who want to do the right thing, the spaces of complexity that are skilfully navigated by those tasked to do so, the laws that exist that protect some at the expense of others rights (where do we draw the line?). But wearing frontline workers down (largely because they are working/lower middle class) in order to protect the ideological landscape simply changes one set of policy directives for another - culturally we have to recognise the complexity of frontline jobs and the limitations of humans.

@Jjop

I am a Detective, 17 years. Majority of service I have specialised in violence against woman and girls, including serious sexual crimes and child abuse, now murder.

I am also a mother, daughter, wife, sister and friend.

I am also tired of reading about just how worthless I am, that what I do is never enough.

The majority of us, every shift try our bloody best!

I don't think that and I don't know anyone who does. You guys do an amazing job, a job that the vast majority of people couldn't or don't want to do. People bitch about the police, but they go running to them when things go wrong.

@Jjop

I am a Detective, 17 years. Majority of service I have specialised in violence against woman and girls, including serious sexual crimes and child abuse, now murder.

I am also a mother, daughter, wife, sister and friend.

I am also tired of reading about just how worthless I am, that what I do is never enough.

The majority of us, every shift try our bloody best!

I can imagine. You are appreciated by some of us.

More protests tonight

I'm just watching a live stream uploaded by some posh twit. So cringy its unbelievable. He keeps going up to the police lines and chatting with them, they are friendly back, but then he walks away and calls them names to his YouTube audience and with other protestors milling about on the street. He also keeps swearing, dropping his posh voice, in a really unconvincing way. What an utter knobhead

...the protest I mention above is in Bristol again

Yes, I get fed with the anti-police crap. Of course, there is some bad police behaviour (just like there is some bad nurse behaviour, bad doctor behaviour, bad teacher behaviour). But when you see Guardian journalists laughing and jeering at policewomen being knocked off frightened horses, you know that a lot of it is political bullshit. Depressing that people fall for it when agitators turn up to cause trouble, and then believe what they see in the press. So much is being imported from America at the moment, from children's programming, to America-specific race issues to the whole 'defund the police' movement.

Hahaha! the posh boy live streamer I mentioned above has just been arrested

Police got pally with him and then grabbed him for affray or something the other night

I blame my generation (people in their 40s and 50s) for the state this country is in. We’ve made a right mess of parenting and produced a generation of entitled brats, who have never been told no either at home or school, and have no respect for authority - because how dare anyone tell them what to do.

It’s appalling and embarrassing. I dread to think what the next generation will turn out like with this lot as parents. It’s no wonder the police can’t control them - they literally believe that the world revolves around them (it always has) and that they are always right.

It’s a shame we can’t turn back the clock twenty years and instil different values in our kids. It’s too late now, the damage is done and I fear there is no way back.

@Flaxmeadow

Hahaha! the posh boy live streamer I mentioned above has just been arrested

Police got pally with him and then grabbed him for affray or something the other night

I was watching the same stream, he was being an absolute windup most of the time. Was hilarious to watch him get arrested like that, then all of a sudden he was concerned about the protestors throwing things and his voice shaking. Karma!

PerfectPenquins

Yes and he was also encouraging the brick throwing about 10 minutes earlier, with live stream audio straight to YouTube.

Arrested at the start of the weekend too. Oh dear

They got him a belter

EYProvider
True, very true

in the case of the police, keeping everyone safe on the streets.

The police do so much more than that now that people don't have a clue about, that's actually only a part of policing.

@1forAll74

I Truly hate all these protesters, unless they can manage to have fairly peaceful protests. and not destroy everything in their paths. They are not achieving anything rampaging about.and causing mayhem everywhere,

I know a fair few younger men and women,who call themselves professional protesters,and can get lots more people to join them. via social media.,and all group up,and go to any protest meet ups that are going on, anywhere in the country, they journey on trains, and coaches, along with their beer and weed etc. It doesn't matter what their agendas are with a particular protest, they just try and go to as many as they can.

I remember one protest ages ago, it got seriously out of control.,and obviously there were lots of police trying to deal with all the masses of rampaging people. there was also several police officers on horseback. and either one or two of the horses got knife stabbed.on parts of their bodies .

You may not be surprised to hear that the red-headed woman who was on all of the front pages is one such professional agitator. Other campaigning interests include anti-HS2 protests.

Because many people have experienced harassment from the Police when they have been innocent.

You cant be so naive to be believe the police are beee to protect the public can you?

I blame my generation (people in their 40s and 50s) for the state this country is in. We’ve ... produced a generation of entitled brats, who have never been told no either at home or school ... - because how dare anyone tell them what to do.

It’s good to see that generation taking some form of responsibility. Now sort out the financial disaster you’ve caused for all of us under 50 and recognise the social impact of that. It cuts both ways and both of these points are linked through consumerism. I do not know how any of you have the gall to look us in the face sometimes, let alone come out with that kind of blanket criticality without acknowledging the other side of it. But then your generation always hated their own kids (see I can do it too).

@Smurfsarethefuture oh I can recognise complexities. But they have not been skilfully handled at all. There has been a power grab which we have all gone along with one but at a time, and now all working people are utterly powerless. The bill that sparked the troubles needs protesting against, and polite arguments are ignored.

@MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes

It’s good to see that generation taking some form of responsibility. Now sort out the financial disaster you’ve caused for all of us under 50 and recognise the social impact of that. It cuts both ways and both of these points are linked through consumerism. I do not know how any of you have the gall to look us in the face sometimes, let alone come out with that kind of blanket criticality without acknowledging the other side of it. But then your generation always hated their own kids (see I can do it too).

Not everyone at all. Some of us walked away or were pushed out of the landscape.

@Smurfsarethefuture oh I can recognise complexities. But they have not been skilfully handled at all. There has been a power grab which we have all gone along with one but at a time, and now all working people are utterly powerless. The bill that sparked the troubles needs protesting against, and polite arguments are ignored.

Not all of us went along with it - some tried to speak up.

@Flaxmeadow

More protests tonight

I'm just watching a live stream uploaded by some posh twit. So cringy its unbelievable. He keeps going up to the police lines and chatting with them, they are friendly back, but then he walks away and calls them names to his YouTube audience and with other protestors milling about on the street. He also keeps swearing, dropping his posh voice, in a really unconvincing way. What an utter knobhead

Ffs. Some real dickheads around aren't there

@Smurfsarethefuture

What has the ‘financial disaster’ impacting the lives of people ‘under 50’ got to do with the fact that the vast majority of 20-somethings in this country have been utterly ruined by their parents?

Well, I suppose you might argue that people got into debt to give their kids what they thought ‘they deserved’, but I don’t think that’s the point you’re making.

How dare we have ‘the gall’ to look you in the face? Are you kidding me? Grow up and start taking responsibility for your own actions. Your entire generation is a disgrace.

I am in my 50s and think the Avon and Somerset police have behaved appallingly recently, lying about police injuries and attacking journalists.

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[quote pinkearedcow]I am in my 50s and think the Avon and Somerset police have behaved appallingly recently, lying about police injuries and attacking journalists.

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What about the British Transport Police and those 'on loan' from Wales to assist? Or just Avon and Somerset?

We’ve made a right mess of parenting and produced a generation of entitled brats, who have never been told no either at home or school, and have no respect for authority - because how dare anyone tell them what to do

I bet the older generation said exactly the same thing about those of us in our 40s/50s/60s who took part in things like the miner's strikes, poll tax protests, anti-racism protests etc. etc. when we were young.

Sansaplans A&S seems to have been the force issuing statements about the situation (e.g the attack on the journalist and the lies about police injuries). But if other forces drafted in have been misbehaving as well then they are appalling too.