Today I was told to leave a garden centre..

[LudoBear]

Aibu?

Went to a local garden centre with my mum which sells pet products. Had my mums 17 week old puppy with me. Walked around the outside part first and puppy did two wees on the grass. Took him inside and he decided to do another wee. Very embarrassed as he had already done 2 and wouldnt have let him walk inside if he hadn't recently done. Anyway, my mum went off to the toilets to get some loo roll, both dry to clean up and wet to wash the area. Then I went to find a member of staff to see if they had any anti bac spray I could use. Rather than giving me some, I was told to take the dog out as it wasn't trustworthy. Explained he had already done 2 wees so this wasn't expected. Was still told to leave and the dog was banned from the place. This was a small independent garden centre not a big chain company. Oh the offending dog? A chihuahua!

Aibu to think if you sell pet products, it's expected people will bring their dogs in (signs say dogs welcome) and occasional their maybe be a accident.

YABU calling a chihuahua a dog

The dog pissed three times. Not just once. It's not unreasonable for them not to want their premises and/or grounds doubling up as a urinal for serially incontinent pets.

I'm surprised you argued the toss with them, OP.

17 weeks is too young to be reliable, and he should have been carried.
You didn't do anything hugely wrong in the grand scheme of things though, and I'm sure plenty of people wouldn't have even bothered cleaning it up!

Your dog pissed on a shop floor and you can't understand why you were asked to leave?

pretty sure the local equestrian supply store does not expect horses to tag along

Voice of reason.

The Dogs Welcome sign is probably for assistance/seeing eye dogs to put their disabled owners at ease and not for fandoms who drag family pets out shopping with them

This. This is the reason that shops have to display the sign.

Ps, children doing it is worse because they can communicate. Dogs can't

Yup. A child can tell you it wants to wee. And it almost always will. Even if you have to ditch your trolley and rush to the loo. A dog can't. It will will just piss where it stands. Dogs should be kept out of shops for this reason.

@mn81987

My dog is 2 and always wee's in pet shops- no where else. If they sell pet products and allow dogs in then they should expect that dogs will wee in there.

That is proper rank.

Some people really have no idea how to behave in public.

I think we have yet another prize exhibit entitled dog owner here. I think it is not unreasonable at all of the shop staff to ask you to take your puppy out of the shop if it keeps weeing everywhere. Shops are not really appropriate places for animals at all anyway - just because it sells dog food does not mean they expect the actual dogs themselves to come to the shop too. Many places may well be tolerant of well behaved dogs with well responsible owners, but your dog is too young to be properly toilet trained and you allowed it to wee 3 times on their premises, even encouraging the first 2 times. It doesn’t matter if it’s ‘only on the grass outside,’ it’s unpleasant for other shop customers and can kill the grass.

The more I think about it the worse it seems.

My dog pissed all over a shop - AIBU in wanting it to be allowed to continue pissing with impunity?

Looking at other threads here, I think it’s safe to say that a decent dog owner wouldn’t let their dog:

Wee in a shop
Kill a seal
Bite a child, postman or anyone at all
Run around in a sheep field (even if they don’t actually bite a sheep)
Crap on someone else’s front garden
Chase wildlife
Jump up against anyone

Yet weirdly, I can find threads on MN from the last month where dog owners have defended all of the above actions, in spite of being told repeatedly that it is not acceptable behaviour.

I love dogs, but not always the people who own them.

@RootyT00t

Didn't say they were flora.

Then why are they being compared to children?

I took my dog in pets at home once, the big shit pissed up a tower of dog food, never again.

I don’t think their brains register that it’s inside, in a shop, or at least not for ours.

@mn81987 YABU to continue taking your dog into shops you know they always wee in! Just because they’re pet shops doesn’t mean they want dogs pissing everywhere and owners who think it’s funny and keep allowing it

@FloraFauna27

Because dogs can't help it. What can OP do? Leave him at home?

@PlanDeRaccordement

The Dogs Welcome sign is probably for assistance/seeing eye dogs to put their disabled owners at ease and not for fandoms who drag family pets out shopping with them.

No, guide dogs etc are always welcome. That goes without saying.

Pet shops and garden centres are often happy to let pets tag along. Their ‘dogs welcome’ signs mean just that. However they don’t say or mean ‘dogs that piss all over our floor welcome.’

Not all children can

That's true. My child is 25 and has severe LD and is doubly incontinent. Doesn't give me an excuse for her to piss all over the floor though. She wears a pad and has never pissed all over the floor in Asda, which is where we mostly buy our food. And I don't have a choice not to take her with me. It's just me and her.

So these comparisons between children and dogs pissing all over the floor really hurt me. A human child/disabled adult having an accident cannot be compared to a dog being taken into a retail establishment entirely untrained when the pet owner has an absolute choice in the matter. My 25 year old daughter has never made any sort of mess in any supermarket we've been in.

So if you've been told off for letting your dog piss in a shop, and then banned, then think yourself bloody lucky that somebody has pulled you up and told you it's unacceptable. Because it is. If we want to start comparing human children and dogs, give a thought to those of us who have children who can never learn to control their bladder.

Your dog can. Don't take it anywhere until it has.

I think it goes without saying that Dogs Welcome doesn't mean that they don't have to be house trained. If my dog wasn't reliable, and a puppy that age won't be, then I wouldn't take them in shops without picking them up. It's kind of common sense not to let your dog wee and poo in a shop.

You shouldn't have taken your puppy.
I'm assuming that the garden centre had the usual ' no dogs allowed except for guide dogs' sign which you may well have flaunted ' cos he's a cute puppy.
Businesses don't want to have to deal with dog wee/poo , no matter how you may want to clean up after them, as so many people would
Just ignore.

@MadeOfStarStuff you seem to think I care about your opinion.....but I don't 🤣

@mn81987 clearly you don’t care about being a decent dog owner or pet shop customer either

The comparison with children is ridiculous. If a child is too young to control their bladder, you put a nappy or pull up on them. You don't just let them piss on the floor because they can't help it.

@MadeOfStarStuff 🤣🤣🤣

A little bit of cop on usually applies in these scenarios.

Yes, dogs are welcome. But if your dog isn’t fully toilet trained, you might need to apply a little bit of common sense.

Non toilet-trained dogs really aren’t as welcome as other dogs. For obvious reasons.

...and most business owners operate on the basis that grown adults don’t need it spelt out to them that they should leave their non toilet-trained dogs outside, or in the car.

Clearly that is a big mistake going by the number of clueless on this thread.