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To hate hugs?

191 replies

LemonSherbetFancies · 24/03/2021 17:10

Apart from DP hugging me (which I love), I absolutely hate hugs.
Dreading when restrictions are eased and all the huggers come out.
Aibu?

OP posts:
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 26/03/2021 13:07

@thepeopleversuswork

I can take or leave hugging (of people I am not intimate with). I’m happy to do it if it’s expected but rarely initiate it.

What drove me slightly nuts during lockdown was these people saying they craved hugs so much they thought it was impacting their mental health etc: struck me as slightly over the top and entitled.

I have an old friend who is very touchy-feely who kept banging on to me about how she was prepared to break lockdown rules to hug people she didn’t know that well.

Get a grip FFS

I think I understand where they were coming from. [Massive TW incoming]

My DNA sharers don't do hugs or any affection whatsoever. It's something that 'Common people with no self control' do. My entire experience of physical contact as a child was having injuries treated by medical staff, having blood tests/injections, a cat that slept on my chest every night, sitting on the floor with the other animals through the day - and being hit.

I deliberately escalated every situation where I was being shouted and screamed at or told how disgusting I was so I'd feel something. The hot sting of a slap across the face, the warm throb of the punches to the side of the head (to ensure there was no visible bruising, obviously), pushing on the bruises on my arms and legs, all felt better than not existing. Which is what it felt like the rest of the time - days would go by where I wouldn't even be looked at because I was so disgusting/stupid/ugly I wasn't even worth seeing. I was OK when I was a baby, apparently, because although I didn't sleep, I didn't cry either. I think that was because I learned if I did, nobody came other than the cat.

I enjoyed getting ill or hurt badly enough from taking risks at school that somebody would check my knees, put a plaster on or I'd go to hospital and the nurses and doctors would be gentle and kind when sending me off for x-rays and examining me. As I also had inflammatory arthritis from the age of 5, the one comfort I had apart from my little black cat was pain. Pain was my friend, keeping me warm, meant I could wrap swollen joints up in bandages, it made me feel real.

When I reached 16 and somebody older than me wanted to touch me, I was gone. OK, the odd slap, push, not being allowed to go out without him, being locked in the flat and generally shit sex and unpleasant kissing wasn't nice - but most of the time, he wanted closeness without overt violence and I liked the warmth of having somebody who wanted physical contact with me.

I had a short period properly single (I was never normally single for long because I wasn't that choosy about who it was, the fact that they wanted me was enough), I realised after about a month. I might as well have been in a bubble or encased in a thick fog where I was invisible, like a ghost. And that reminded me of being 13 and realising (after being told that I should never have been born and it would have been better had I died at birth because I'd been beaten up at school, which must have been my fault because I made people hate me) that, actually, nobody would notice if I wasn't here anymore and I could do something about that.

For all the shitness, that abusive first boyfriend had actually saved me from that ideation, those plans, the eating disorder, everything. I self harmed over that period of being alone and untouched. Because I needed to feel. Weighted blankets are helpful to many people because of the warmth and pressure - there's a well known case where Temple Grandin invented a hugging contraption because she saw that cattle calm in a crush. She now says that she prefers hugging people to the machine.

DP hugs me frequently. Were it not for him, there would have been nothing for the best part of a year, with the exception of, yet again, needing painful medical treatment.

So I understand completely why people crave the warmth, the pressure, the safety of a hug. I don't see it as entitlement. I see it as a biological need for many species and self awareness of somebody's needs for that contact is healthier for them than either having to seek out alternatives - or dismissing it as entitlement.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 26/03/2021 13:20

@NeverDropYourMoonCup

I’m so sorry that happened to you. I can completely understand why you need the physical presence of someone else hugging you. I do too sometimes and I seek that from my DH or my DDs. I don’t seek it from anyone else though. If I didn’t have them, I don’t know how I’d feel. I had an ex who loved to be constantly touching me - hand holding, hugging, kissing... I hated it! It’s part of the reason why I dumped him.

Plumbear2 · 26/03/2021 13:28

Neverdropyourmoonup as much as I feel for your situation hugging people when they obviously don't want it is entitlement. As much as you live hugs others find that experience painful. Someone's need to hug does not come before others right to refuse. Everyone has the right to refuse unwanted bodily contact.

Holly60 · 26/03/2021 13:34

@sammylady37

Whereas you sound delightful gringrin let’s just accept that I very much doubt we would be friends IRL: I’ve never once in my life internally screamed at someone to ‘f’ off, that’s just really sad sad. But that’s obviously just you and I say live and let live smile if you don’t like hugging you can’t help it can you - it’s not your fault smile

@Holly60 nice little passive-aggressive dig and patronising comment there, the “I’m just being silly me, lol” mask has slipped. You are trying to insinuate there’s something wrong with not liking hugs- I adore hugs from some people but not everyone and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

However, there is something very wrong with forcing unwanted physical contact on people beyond the point when you become well aware that it’s unwanted- that sort of behaviour is abhorrent and trying to shrug it off as “oh but I’m just so sorry for you as you clearly haven’t been hugged enough or properly” is disgusting. Have some respect for others instead of being intrusive, invasive, demanding and forceful.

I’m sorry if you think I’m being passive aggressive. I don’t mean to be at all. You just sound so angry and I suppose I’m trying to understand why you might be. But of course that’s silly. So please don’t listen to silly old me Smile
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 26/03/2021 13:39

@Plumbear2

Neverdropyourmoonup as much as I feel for your situation hugging people when they obviously don't want it is entitlement. As much as you live hugs others find that experience painful. Someone's need to hug does not come before others right to refuse. Everyone has the right to refuse unwanted bodily contact.
Very true. But somebody saying - for themselves - that they desperately need hugs isn't them displaying entitlement. It's voicing something that they need for their emotional wellbeing/mental health, not that they are being ridiculous, histrionic, overemotional or overdramatic.

You don't need hugs? Fine. Wouldn't want to hug anybody who doesn't like them or dislikes me, anyhow. But that doesn't mean the needs of people who feel bereft of human touch are being silly. Same way if you don't like sushi, I'm not going to insist that you have five slices of raw salmon instead of cornflakes in the morning. But if I wanted to, I'd be just as reasonable to do so as you are being in not having it.

Holly60 · 26/03/2021 13:42

@Plumbear2

I've also internalised a fUck off when people consistently don't stop hugging and consistently don't pick up the cues. It's not sad. What is very sad is people like Holly who carnt see how completely irritating they are. Respect people's space, it's not hard.
I think what you mean is that you personally are irritated by my views, rather than that I am irritating, as of course that is a totally subjective personal opinion of yours. And I have to be really honest and say that I can’t really get worked up about your view of me. We just have different outlooks and would probably be equally irritated by each other IRL (or we would both just be lovely and polite to each other Grin)
Firenight · 26/03/2021 13:42

I hope hand shaking has died a death. I hate it!

Plumbear2 · 26/03/2021 13:46

Not wanting to be hugged does not mean that person dislikes the hugger. It means they dislike the unwanted bodily contact. Hugging someone who dosent want to be hugged is entitlement, your need to hug is not more important. Liking hugs and needing them is not entitlement as long as you don't inflict them on people who don't want them or try to make them feel guilty for not wanting them.

TheMostHappy · 26/03/2021 13:52

I'm not a hugger either but the in-laws are. I hate it. I'm terrified of coming across as a cold, horrible person, and so I've been hugged on a weekly basis throughout this second lockdown, as they are our childcare bubble. Sad I wish I could be more assertive.

AmelieTaylor · 26/03/2021 16:11

@NeverDropYourMoonCup. ((((HUG))))). I am so sorry you grew up like that, I've been on here since almost the beginning snd it's one of the saddest posts I've read (and I've read a lot)

I hope you & your DP are happy together forever xx. You certainly deserve it💐

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 26/03/2021 16:12

@Firenight

I hope hand shaking has died a death. I hate it!
Yep! You can definitely keep hand shakes.
Rummikub · 26/03/2021 16:38

Hate handshakes too!
Men would always squeeze too hard and it would hurt. Or the dreaded limp handshake!

BestOption · 26/03/2021 16:44

Hands up, I'm a hugger. I come from a family of huggers. I seem to attract huggers. Pre Covid I also liked busy social squishy places like pubs, stranger hugs & all things huggy/squishy really.

I don't understand people who don't enjoy hugs, but each to their own. I'd rather someone just said 'I don't do hugs' or gave clear indications they don't like hugs. Lanyards would be good. I don't want to hug anyone that doesn't want to be hugged.

But there is NO need for some of the comments on this thread, just because the poster is not a hugger, it doesn't make huggers evil'

What drove me slightly nuts during lockdown was these people saying they craved hugs so much they thought it was impacting their mental health etc: struck me as slightly over the top and entitled

Why? I live alone. I haven't had a hug in about a year. Why do you think it's entitled to want physical contact with another human being?

Whatsthatbrightlight · 26/03/2021 16:51

In my group of friends there are two of us who are not huggers. Over the years the others have learnt to leave us alone or risk the ‘Paddington Bear stare’ Grin

Rummikub · 26/03/2021 16:52

I have been clear in the past
‘I don’t like hugs’ or don’t hugs me
But a lot of people seem to ignore it and still hug me. I would respond like the cat in Pepe le pew!
I used to wonder if it is because I am short (and seemingly cute?).

hedgehogger1 · 26/03/2021 16:55

I hug my husband and children. I will sometimes hug close friends if they are very upset.

Mittens030869 · 26/03/2021 16:56

I'm not a hugger. I love my friends/family but I don't need to squeeze them.

^This with knobs on. Love this thread, it’s exactly how I feel when people go on about missing hugs. I only like hugging my DH and my DDs really.

LoveCauliflowerCheese · 26/03/2021 17:54

LoveCauliflowerCheese
I'm sorry for you all. I really am. Big hugs 🤗🤗🤗
Thanks hun!!!

@BeingATwatItsABingThing Totes welx! MWAH!!! 💋💋💋

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 26/03/2021 17:57

@LoveCauliflowerCheese

Awwww! Luvz ya hunny! #BigHugzzzz

sammylady37 · 26/03/2021 18:07

But there is NO need for some of the comments on this thread, just because the poster is not a hugger, it doesn't make huggers evil

@BestOption
Simply being a hugger is not evil, of course it’s not and I don’t think anyone is actually suggesting that.

What the non-huggers have a problem with is huggers who don’t respect the boundaries of the non-huggers and who enforce their need/desire for hugs on people who do not want them. There was a poster earlier in the thread who said she persists on hugging people beyond the point at which she senses they’re uncomfortable with it and that is reprehensible.
I find being hugged by people outside a select few to be invasive, intrusive, violating and horrible and I shouldn’t have to pander to anyone else’s need to be hugged by losing autonomy over my own body.

WhiskyIrnBru · 26/03/2021 18:19

Yup. It's a running joke how awkward and rigid I am when hugged!

Hagqueen · 26/03/2021 18:30

I’m not a hugger. But I have had barely any physical contact with anyone (I’m bubbled with a reknowned anti-hugger too!) for the last year and honestly, its the most horrid feeling ever.

I feel so lonely without it, I never used to instigate hugs, but have plenty of physically affectionate friends who I’d happily let hug me. I didn’t realise how much I missed it.

Notaroadrunner · 26/03/2021 18:34

@LemonSherbetFancies

Apart from DP hugging me (which I love), I absolutely hate hugs. Dreading when restrictions are eased and all the huggers come out. Aibu?
I'll still be recoiling if anyone tries to hug me even if we're all vaccinated and the virus has fizzled out. Definitely not a hugger.
Plumbear2 · 27/03/2021 06:16

Bestoption why should nom huggers have to make it clear they don't like hugs or wear a lanyard? Just ask first. Its None concented physical contact at the end of the day

ChewtonRoad · 27/03/2021 07:28

As Peter Capaldi's Doctor said "I'm against the hugging".

I don't like being touched by strangers and don't want to touch them. I will hug family members, and very much like to have the family pets get cosy on my lap or next to me as their presence is soothing. More than that can be problematic.