To think there’s too much sex on tv/netflix

[WiganNorthWest]

Shows that I would otherwise enjoy watching with my teenagers/other family always seem to have graphic and gratuitous very long sex scenes. I don’t think they add anything to the plot and ruin our experience of watching as a family (makes me and my teenagers uncomfortable-and I think we are fairly close/informal usually).
I’m thinking of game of thrones, Bridgerton, normal people and outlander which show a lot of sex and a lot of it is disturbing/rape. Does anyone actually enjoy watching these scenes/think they enhance shows? I wish there were ‘clean’ rated 12 versions of these shows on Netflix and you could chose which one to watch. I did enjoy sex education, and think this was done a bit more intelligently/sex scenes weren’t just there for the sake of it/a lazy way to attract viewers but were necessary for the plot.
AIBU/ a prude?

[EarringsandLipstick]

I was replying to the poster that claimed THIS was in every day life therefore I was unreasonable about not wishing to watch.

So not a leap in when read in its context.

I'm saying you can't conflate the two (sex and rape) as you did in your sentence. The 'leap' was from sex to rape. Not that your statement was making a leap.

I think you misunderstood my point.

[grannyinapram]

I'm glad you said that about Bridgetown
I was planning on watching that with my under tens. I thought it was a period romance. looked pretty tame. mumsnet to the rescue!

[WisnaeMe]

@EarringsandLipstick

I was replying to the poster that claimed THIS was in every day life therefore I was unreasonable about not wishing to watch.

So not a leap in when read in its context.

I'm saying you can't conflate the two (sex and rape) as you did in your sentence. The 'leap' was from sex to rape. Not that your statement was making a leap.

I think you misunderstood my point.

and you misunderstood mine, I was referring to the continual Rape scenes in Outlander.

[WisnaeMe]

@NiceGerbil

I have always hated sexual violence against women on the screen, and also the way that women and girls on screen are so often in situations where there is an underlying threat of sexual violence.

I hate the fact that over the years it's just become something that happens all over the place.

I hate the fact (and I first noticed this with CSI so 20 years ago or something!) that sexual violence is often a way to get women's clothes off/ get some sex on the screen. I have an idea that in USA output they seem to be ok with violence, and not ok with sex. What do you do if you want some female flesh and sexualm content. Sexual assault!

The point it really hit home was when there was a woman's topless (I think) top half and a male hand was gently stroking her under rivulets of water running over her. The camera really lingered lovingly. Pulled back. She was on the fucking slab! WTAF?!

anyway rambling.

Oh and something else someone pointed out is that when a perspective of a rape is shot it's always from the pov of the rapist looking at the victim. That is just. Grim when you think about it.

@EarringsandLipstick

this post was the first to bring up violent sex/rape issue, not me, and I asked for my post to be removed as someone was offended by it.

[bathsh3ba]

YANBU. I struggle to find much to watch because I'm not interested in watching constant sex and violence. But I guess they put on what they think most people want to watch. I couldn't even get through one episode of Game of Thrones...

[jessstan2]

@grannyinapram

I'm glad you said that about Bridgetown
I was planning on watching that with my under tens. I thought it was a period romance. looked pretty tame. mumsnet to the rescue!

Yes, it isn't for young children but it is good so worth watching.

[StarlightLady]

OP, were you brought up to believe that sex is wrong? If so, what sort of signals does that send to your teenagers?

There is a huge difference between a sex scene and a violent sex scene. Also what about the voilence in mainstream films such as James Bond. Are you comfortable with that because they have their clothes on?

[NiceGerbil]

Lol at the idea that not feeling super comfy watching on screen shagging with your teens is indicative of a repressed upbringing etc.

Most teens would find this hideously embarrassing as well surely.

Not watching to sit down as a family and watch people in period clothes simulating shagging is surely not unusual :/

[NiceGerbil]

Quite a few James bond films have scenes rapey as all fuck.

Grim.

[WisnaeMe]

@StarlightLady

OP, were you brought up to believe that sex is wrong? If so, what sort of signals does that send to your teenagers?

There is a huge difference between a sex scene and a violent sex scene. Also what about the voilence in mainstream films such as James Bond. Are you comfortable with that because they have their clothes on?

Ive heard it all now 😏

[WiganNorthWest]

@StarlightLady

OP, were you brought up to believe that sex is wrong? If so, what sort of signals does that send to your teenagers?

There is a huge difference between a sex scene and a violent sex scene. Also what about the voilence in mainstream films such as James Bond. Are you comfortable with that because they have their clothes on?

Where did I say I thought sex was wrong?If I didn’t like sex I wouldn’t have any kids. I don’t mind talking about sex in a healthy way with my teens, we just find watching other people have sex a bit of a weird form of family entertainment/a bit uncomfortable. Each to their own though. I had a good relationship with my parents growing up too, but still find watching erotic/pornographic scenes with them very awkward. I think that’s a social norm, I don’t know of any families that all sit there happily engrossed in a long sex scene. Similarly, I am fine with the idea that my parents and my 18 year old have sex, I just have absolutely no desire to know all the details or witness it.
I don’t find 12 rated James Bond style violence odd to watch with family. Maybe because we all know that all people (our parents and teens included) have sex, so these scenes are relatable, whereas none of us have ever taken part in a car chase/action sequence/karate fight.

[tangerinelollipop]

But where are those good old-fashioned values on which we used to rely
Liberalism took over

I agree.

Also besides the unnecessary sex and violence, it never seems to be just about a plot/story. It needs to contain a preachy message somewhere (I find that Netflix is particularly bad with this).

People need to think what they are subscribing to and funding before parting with their cash.

[EarringsandLipstick]

and you misunderstood mine, I was referring to the continual Rape scenes in Outlander.

Do you expect posters to be able to mind-read?!

[EarringsandLipstick]

this post was the first to bring up violent sex/rape issue, not me, and I asked for my post to be removed as someone was offended by it.

You still keep misunderstanding my point. The sentence talked about not wanting to see 'sex and rape scenes'. I simply pointed out there wasn't a comparison between 'sex scenes' and 'rape scenes' - they are completely different, with potentially different considerations.

[chocorabbit]

I am with you OP!! It is a shame my children couldn't watch Jessica Jones, Daredevil and a lot more actually. They REALLY enjoy this kind of stuff but they are not allowed to watch them. I am sick of them myself as they delay the plot.

Thankfully, they could watch Leathal Weapon (the series). I remember as an older teenager my friend at school was discussing with me a sex scene (from the movie) and how embarrassed she was.

[chocorabbit]

@tangerinelollipop

But where are those good old-fashioned values on which we used to rely
Liberalism took over

I agree.

Also besides the unnecessary sex and violence, it never seems to be just about a plot/story. It needs to contain a preachy message somewhere (I find that Netflix is particularly bad with this).

People need to think what they are subscribing to and funding before parting with their cash.

Maybe what you mean is not exactly what I am having in mind but there must be an overlap: surely characters are meant to be real humans with problems which they must analyse but we found with DH season 2 of the Titans on Netflix very boring because we wanted to watch the plot unfolding but by then 50% of it was their relationships and "it's not your fault this happened" kind of thing. Now, that's an overkill!

[jessstan2]

There is plenty on Netflix which does not include sex! I flip through the various menus every day.

(Whoever it was who recommended 'The Lie', it is not on Netflix but on Amazon Prime.)

[longwayoff]

'Thankfully my children could watch LETHAL WEAPON'. Dear lord above. Who says our values are twisted?

[WisnaeMe]

@EarringsandLipstick

and you misunderstood mine, I was referring to the continual Rape scenes in Outlander.

Do you expect posters to be able to mind-read?!

if you read the Thread my comments are all there quite clearly, my deleted post was merely the first time I mentioned Outlander.

[WisnaeMe]

@EarringsandLipstick

this post was the first to bring up violent sex/rape issue, not me, and I asked for my post to be removed as someone was offended by it.

You still keep misunderstanding my point. The sentence talked about not wanting to see 'sex and rape scenes'. I simply pointed out there wasn't a comparison between 'sex scenes' and 'rape scenes' - they are completely different, with potentially different considerations.

both types of scenes have been discussed at great length by many posters, yet you continually hold me responsible for this imaginary leap you keep referring too. 🤔