To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?

[FerrisWheelTrain]

For example - are terms like LTB sexist?

To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?

Maybe first address your own incoherency?

For example, you don't make sense.

@Pumperthepumper that we assume many men are bastards due to the actions of a few

Who is “we”? Do you have a case of NOT ALL MEN, but it is ALL WOMEN?!

fiver says op is an incel.

@FerrisWheelTrain, tell me about your misandry? Is it holding you back from your feminism?

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper I feel it exists - I feel addressing it would lead to a fairer society. I agree that the typically oppressed should challenge the oppressors - no doubt. In order to make our streets safer for women, do we hurl abuse at the typically make police force - and risk recruitment issues. Or do we work together with our police force for positive change?[/quote]
Well we don't really want them to be recruiting more of the same, do we? They could do with putting their house in order first.

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper which is the problem with stereotyping groups within a society as a whole.[/quote]
What?

Do you need some help coming up with some ideas for this massive problem of misandry you see in society? This seems to be a really difficult question for you to answer, which is weird because you think it’s worth a conversation. Do you need help?

Oh. Another 'women who want rights hate men' attempt.

Gawd it gets tedious.

we assume many men are bastards due to the actions of a few

Why do you think feminism means that believing all men are bastards?

@Pumperthepumper ok this weekend. Police with broken bones etc, as a consequence of the reclaim these streets vigil previous weekend. I agreed with the vigil, but the stereotypical view of male police officers resulted in a protest of ‘Kill The Bill’. This is not fair.

@Helmetbymidnight

fiver says op is an incel.

No, just misguided. Bless.

@Naunet absolutely! The male stereotypical view of women is unfair. That we deserve less wage, can’t compete. Only good for one thing etc etc

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper ok this weekend. Police with broken bones etc, as a consequence of the reclaim these streets vigil previous weekend. I agreed with the vigil, but the stereotypical view of male police officers resulted in a protest of ‘Kill The Bill’. This is not fair.[/quote]
Do you think this is misandry? Or do you think it’s a retaliation to the historical brutality of the police force towards women ie misogyny?

Is attacking the police a result of misandry, do you think?

And the ‘Kill the Bill’ protests were connected to the laws limiting protests. It wasn’t women who were breaking police officers bones.

I’m fully prepared to accept I am misguided of I’m given a good argument against! And not insults etc.

@Pumperthepumper ok this weekend. Police with broken bones etc, as a consequence of the reclaim these streets vigil previous weekend. I agreed with the vigil, but the stereotypical view of male police officers resulted in a protest of ‘Kill The Bill’. This is not fair

Ahhh, so to be a “true” feminist, we need to get men to stop beating up other men? Ok, and how should we get to work on that one when we can’t even stop them from killing us?!

@Pumperthepumper that we assume many men are bastards due to the actions of a few.

We don't assume many men are bastards, we know it for a fact. And men know it for a fact too. The vast majority of violent crime is committed by men. Many women suffer abuse from their male partners. That adds up to many men, no? It doesn't add up to all men, but nobody's saying it does! Neither does it mean that there aren't any awful women. Again, nobody is saying it does.

So, your question seems to be "Are we doing men a dissevice by saying there a lot of men who are bastards?" Answer: no, we are simply stating a fact.

@FerrisWheelTrain

I’m fully prepared to accept I am misguided of I’m given a good argument against! And not insults etc.

Nobody has to give you an argument, you don’t know yourself what the end result of misandry on society at large is. You can’t even argue your own side.

@Pumperthepumper I think the police are guilty of misogyny. I think many vigil cum protesters are guilty of misandry towards the police. I agree it was largely male violence towards the police, but not solely.

vigil cum protesters

@Pumperthepumper my point is that positive change is brought about by not recognising ourselves solely as victims.

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper I think the police are guilty of misogyny. I think many vigil cum protesters are guilty of misandry towards the police. I agree it was largely male violence towards the police, but not solely.[/quote]
So if it wasn’t misandry that caused the attacks on the police, what’s example of misandry in society that has massive consequences?

@acatcalledjohn the vigil certainly turned into a protest?

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper my point is that positive change is brought about by not recognising ourselves solely as victims.[/quote]
That’s not misandry either. You seem really confused about misandry, actually.

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Pumperthepumper I think the police are guilty of misogyny. I think many vigil cum protesters are guilty of misandry towards the police. I agree it was largely male violence towards the police, but not solely.[/quote]
Why don’t you give us an example of your own misandry that you’d like to address? It’s still irrelevant to feminism but it might make for a more interesting conversationz

Op is this about the police, or misandry, or feminism, because i am confused.