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To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?

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FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:10

For example - are terms like LTB sexist?

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Tavannach · 23/03/2021 16:29

Sorry, no idea what you mean.

Is this an example of implicit bias?

To be a true feminism, I need to address my own misandry?
FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:30

@naunet - but feminism IS about equality

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DioneTheDiabolist · 23/03/2021 16:31

Loads of LTB on Dadsnet, I just looked.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:31

@Tavannach but from that horrific incident, do we assume all men are like that?

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Naunet · 23/03/2021 16:31

@naunet - but feminism IS about equality

Nope. you’re confusing feminism with equalitarianism. Like I said, learn what feminism actually is, that’s the first step.

DaysAreGettingLongerNow · 23/03/2021 16:32

@BitOfFun

Maybe consider some misoganoffy pie for afters?
I don’t guffaw at things online very often, but I made an exception for this Grin
Whatisthisfuckery · 23/03/2021 16:33

To be a true feminist you have to be female and center females. HTH

Ingridla · 23/03/2021 16:33

'Is the term LTB sexist?'

How old are you, 13

BrumBoo · 23/03/2021 16:34

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@naunet - but feminism IS about equality[/quote]
Try harder. Equality doesn't mean fairness to begin with, and in this world of 'equality', women are bring treated more unfairly than ever.

Daydrambeliever · 23/03/2021 16:34

Feminism isn't about equality. On the surface many of society's structures have "equality" policies, and yet structural, societal and physical misogyny doesn't only still exist - it is getting worse.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:34

@Naunet how - define both terms for me?

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expectopelargonium · 23/03/2021 16:35

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@ArmchairTraveller nah - term used on mumsnet, 99% of time applies to a man![/quote]
There's a reason for that.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:35

@BrumBoo are men being treated unfairly?

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Sophoclesthefox · 23/03/2021 16:35

@BitOfFun

Maybe consider some misoganoffy pie for afters?
That sounds quite indigestible 🤣
Daydrambeliever · 23/03/2021 16:36

And feminism doesn't demand simpering kindness, so women are still allowed to swear and call people names.

ScrambledSmegs · 23/03/2021 16:36

I love how the natural wariness of many women towards the sex that has historically designated us as chattel with no right to vote, own property or even have custody of our own children, and that even now murders, rapes and objectifies us to the point of non-humanity has been recast as irrational hatred or 'misandry'.

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FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:36

If we uphold a stereotypical view of men to be the norm, are we doing men a disservice?

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BrumBoo · 23/03/2021 16:37

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@BrumBoo are men being treated unfairly?[/quote]
I can't think of any examples instantly where men as a sex are objectively treated unfairly. Can you?

blacksax · 23/03/2021 16:38

[quote FerrisWheelTrain]@Naunet how - define both terms for me?[/quote]
Why should they need to? What's that saying again? Oh yeah. "Go educate yourself".

Sn0tnose · 23/03/2021 16:38

...are men being treated unfairly?

I don’t think feminism means what you think it means.

FerrisWheelTrain · 23/03/2021 16:39

@BrumBoo yes! Assuming all police are bastards due to the action of - I would hope - a minority.

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PickAChew · 23/03/2021 16:39

Maybe, if men don't like being referred to as bastards, they shouldn't act like bastards.

Daydrambeliever · 23/03/2021 16:39

No. Men are doing men a disservice. Perhaps you should have a conversation with them about what they can do about male violence and misogyny.

Naunet · 23/03/2021 16:39

@Naunet how - define both terms for me?

Ahh ok, so you did think they were the same thing?! Yeah, I’m not going to explain the differences to you, too long! You should really do some reading on the subject. I suspect you would be more comfortable identifying as an equalitist rather than a feminist.

expectopelargonium · 23/03/2021 16:40

@FerrisWheelTrain

If we uphold a stereotypical view of men to be the norm, are we doing men a disservice?
Who's "we"?