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Was I wrong to have sex with his mate?

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rainbowdashsneeze · 20/03/2021 11:07

I have recently come out of a LTR, I was left with no warning or any kind of indication that we was unhappy. Anyway fast forward 2 weeks and I have been on a rollercoaster ride with ex partner he has gone from being madly in love with me to being cold and nasty and is totally rewriting history. Any way I have spent that past 2 weekends at my brothers house he has been amazing in helping me... well this week his best friend has messaged me a couple of times this week abs after a few too many beers last night I had sex with him. The sex was good sex! But my brother has absolutely gone off the scale mental at me? He doesn't want me back at the house, he doesn't want to speak to me he wasn't nothing to do with me because I have broke the code!!! He is also equally pissed if not more so with his best friend.

What do I do? AIBU did I break a code? I really don't know if I have done something mortally wrong or not. I just see it as a bit of fun with a friend I have knowing for 20+ years

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goldielockdown2 · 20/03/2021 12:58

And there was me thinking adults can have sex when they like and with who they like. Baffled.

WhereamI88 · 20/03/2021 13:01

He's right to be angry. When it all goes wrong, he will be stuck between his sister and his best friend. His friend may no longer come to his parties if he knows you're there or the other way around. What if the friend is an arsehole to you? How will you feel when your brother still considers him as his best friend and puts him above you? There's no way for this to end well.

MrsTophamHat · 20/03/2021 13:16

[quote goldielockdown2 ]And there was me thinking adults can have sex when they like and with who they like. Baffled. [/quote]
Adults can also consider the wider repercussions of their actions, and whether thise actions are likely to hurt someone they love surely?

Mascaramademehappy · 20/03/2021 13:30

Is there no Covid where you are?

WombatChocolate · 20/03/2021 13:50

I’d also say there’s a difference between CAN DO what you like (yes, you can have sex with who you like) and SHOULD DO.

People often aren’t willing to see the difference. Yes, Op is free to be drunk every night and have sex with multiple people every night if she wants to. She can do it for years and years if she wants to. Should all of her friends and family remain silent throughout because she CAN do it and it’s her choice? Does feeedom to choose and do what we want mean we cannot ever comment on what a friend or family member does or care about their choices, but everything is categorically neutral and simply one choice that can be made amongst many? Most people don’t really think that in reality when taken to extremes, so there is always a line at which people will have an opinion or comment to a friend or family member they care about.

So this has become an issue about a man (brother) claiming the right to tell a woman (sister) how she can behave sexually. What about if it was a sister saying the same thing. Would that be different?

Is it about him seeing his sisters behaviour as potentially harmful to herself (I suspect it’s not actually about that) or about him feeling it will impact his relationship with his friend? Is it done selfishly or out of consideration for his sister? Would he have been concerned if the person she had drunk sex with was a stranger? It’s hard to tell, but it sounds like it wouldn’t have been an issue in the same way.

So there are 2 issues getting muddled here. One is about if it’s okay to be concerned about a friend or family member and their behaviour if we think it is harmful to them. On this one, whilst anyone is free to do whatever they choose, I think as friends and family Simeon times we seem peolle who are vulnerable do things which they might be feee to do but which worry us. If we get to a point when we can’t say that, I think we’ve lost the bonds of famiky and community and society and really will be independent islands and the worse for it. Some people would like it like that, but most wouldn’t. So on these issue of whether anyone could comment to Op about what happened, I think in some circumstances they could and should.

And then there is the 2nd issue that this has got muddled up with - controlling behaviour because of self interest. This is wrong. Controlling behaviour because of sexual stereotypes about acceptable behaviour from men and different for women..this is wrong.

So if brother was worried about sister being vulnerable having just come out of relationship and being in a crazy place for a couple of weeks, then being out very drunk and having sex with an unknown in a dangerous situation....saying something = fine. BUT, if it wasn’t about caring for her and her vulnerability, but more about worrying about his friendship with friend sister slept with and feeling awkward about it, then NOT FINE.

But, too many people muddle the 2 issues and go to an extreme as say no-one can ever comment to a dear friend or family member when they are worried about their behaviour. I dont think this is right or wise. Adults can do what they like (within the law) and ultimately have to be able to choose their own course even if it’s destructive or dangerous (although clearly at an extreme point of actual harm they could be sectioned) but friends and family can and should feel they can and be willing to voice concern if they feel someone is vulnerable and their actions are a danger. It is the caring thing to do. It might not go down well and it might be ignored but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong to say it.

SoulofanAggron · 20/03/2021 13:51

I don't see anything wrong with it. I thought you shag your boyf's mate from the title. Smile

goldielockdown2 · 20/03/2021 14:17

MrsTopham I wouldn't have thought it would be any else's business, much less something which could cause pain. It's a bit of sex between two consenting adults.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 20/03/2021 14:33

@user1471517900

I laughed at the "it was good sex" line. Critical that we knew that in order to make our decision
Maybe that’s the excuse for breaking the covid rules, it doesn’t count if the sex is good Hmm
JustLyra · 20/03/2021 14:41

[quote goldielockdown2 ]MrsTopham I wouldn't have thought it would be any else's business, much less something which could cause pain. It's a bit of sex between two consenting adults. [/quote]
You can’t see any way in which his best mate picking up his drunk, & potentially vulnerable, sister could cause problems for the OP’s brother? Really?

customwatkins · 20/03/2021 14:57

Good sex between single adults is never a bad thing. Good on ya OP Wink

Whammyyammy · 20/03/2021 15:00

So the OP is single, she had sex with her brothers friend, who i presume is also single, as op doesn't say otherwise, both adults.... whats the issue???

Too many peudes out today

LunaNorth · 20/03/2021 15:08

Damn peuds, peuding everywhere.

Borntohula · 20/03/2021 15:10

@Hankunamatata

You had sex in brothers house with his friend? It's a bit ewww
Christ, grow up
Borntohula · 20/03/2021 15:25

The responses here are hilarious. OP, you've done nothing wrong whatsoever.

DianaT1969 · 20/03/2021 15:27

I think you, Midge and Mungo should get the Eurostar train during Covid lockdown and continue having drunken sex around the continent until you hear the banjos playing.

Cactus1982 · 20/03/2021 15:32

Your not really supposed to be shagging random men at the moment.

FrustratedTeddyLamp · 20/03/2021 15:37

I mean sure technically you can sleep with whoever but id expect not many would be too happy with their best friend sleeping with their dad or mum

Buttonfm · 20/03/2021 15:46

So your brother won't speak to you or see you or have anything to do with you?

He basically disowned you because you slept with his friend.

Your brother is a controlling and nasty man. He has no right to dictate who you sleep with. Yes, he may feel uncomfortable with it, but that's his problem. Maybe he feels protective of you, but if he really cared he wouldn't treat you so badly.

You need to be clear about what is acceptable treatment of a woman by a man. You are being badly treated by the men in your life. No-one should be trying to control you, no-one.

Orgyofsausages · 20/03/2021 15:49

did you use a condom?

slashlover · 20/03/2021 15:55

So your brother won't speak to you or see you or have anything to do with you?

He basically disowned you because you slept with his friend.

Your brother is a controlling and nasty man. He has no right to dictate who you sleep with. Yes, he may feel uncomfortable with it, but that's his problem. Maybe he feels protective of you, but if he really cared he wouldn't treat you so badly.

It happened last night and OP posted at 11am this morning so her DB had probably just found out and was exactly thinking clearly.

MrsTophamHat · 20/03/2021 16:27

I am surprised at the number of people who would think nothing of swooping in and potentially upsetting the dynamic between your brother, who has been really supportive towards you, and his closest friend.

goldielockdown2 · 20/03/2021 16:33

That scenario could be problematic, JustLyra however the brother's reaction should in that case be one of concern for OP.

rainbowdashsneeze · 20/03/2021 16:55

I do know it sounds bad. I am vulnerable at the moment and I suppose drunk me thought it would be nice to be wanted again. It was nice to be touched. My brother just assumed I shagged him because I stayed at his house. I have neither co firmed or denied.

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rainbowdashsneeze · 20/03/2021 17:04

I am 33 I have 2 children.

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partyatthepalace · 20/03/2021 17:18

Your brother is overreacting big time -

It can be a bit awkward when siblings and friends get it on, but it’s equally none of his business. He’ll get over it I’m sure.

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