To think fuck you to those living in big houses who are following the rules?

[Hammyhamster92]

I have noticed swathe of happily married friends, in jobs they could do from home, in big houses with big gardens bitching about people not following the covid rules.

There seems to be no sympathy from these people that a large number of people not following the rules are, ( from personal experiences I know of)

1. Sharing a one bedroom flat with their two children, and no garden.

2. Living in a shared HMO where the landlord has turned the living room into another bedroom and there isno garden and no communal area.

3. Living with violent, abusive, toxic people.

4. Are bereaved.

5. Are unable to share or bubble with their partner, but don't feel they should have no contact for months.

I had a massive row with a friend today, ( call her lucy). Lucy asked what I was doing for the weekend, and I said I was going to visit ( "charlotte") as Charlotte has had a very horrible bereavment recently, ( cousin she was very close to died unexpectedly in a road accident) and was really struggling and has asked for a visit.

Consequently , I've been called all the names under the sun, I'm selfish/ horrible etc, and more so because I have to travel by train, ( I can't drive for medical reasons). Utterly sick of this shit, and it seems that some people who are living in a middle class bubble of perfection can't imagine the difficulties lockdown has caused others.

@mam0918

I do get sick of seeing people with gardens showing off how fantastic their life is but I still have followed all the rules dispite that, I just wisper 'fuck you' to myself everytime another person posts a picture of their new hot tub in their sunny garden etc... lol.

Aw, well isn't that nice of you.

I have a friend who has a lovely garden, and she posted a pic on her FB of her sitting in it during lockdown... just days after calling the crisis team who talked her out of ending her life.

I'm pleased your response to her would have been "fuck you".

And it's the people in the large houses and gardens, who lack empathy, is it?

Righto.

@Carrotcakeforbreakfast

I am the stereotypical large house owner in your OP and I have always had every sympathy for the people in those predicaments you list. This whole situation is shit, but absolutely for some much more than others. Also, the lockdown has caused me considerable daily difficulty, for a reason I won't state because I am privileged so life is wonderful.

Some people live in a small cottage, sea view with unlimited beach access

Some people have a garden and nowhere to go

Some people have fields and fields and acres of private land and horses, swimming pool, tennis court... Sounds nice, but most people with a "garden" haven't got anywhere near that

Some people have private islands, sounds even nicer.

What you call "privileged" people is always ridiculous when it's just about someone who has a tiny bit more than you.

Of course it’s easier to “stay home” when “home” is a bedroom for each DC, a family room AND a separate living room, maybe even a playroom /den, a home office, and a garden, in a leafy area. Rather than overcrowded flat surrounded by concrete.

Most people realise this.

It’s also easier to stay home if you have a family to stay home with, if nothing bad happens to you, if you’re able to “keep busy” (eg can afford things to fuel a new hobby or whatever).

Lucy is a dick, not for her big house but for her attitude to your bereaved friend.

Lucy sounds a twat, but you sound well matched. A friend of mine (who lives in a big house) had to stand by her front gate and bow as the hearse containing her mother’s coffin paused on its way to the crematorium as only two mourners were allowed into the crematorium building.
Just because you don’t live in a large house doesn’t mean you are exempt from the rules everybody, with moral fibre has been sticking to.

Thanks for the ‘fuck you’ . It’s says so much more about you than the people who do not live in a one bedroom flat, who you seem to despise, regardless of what they have had to personally face through the pandemic. Being so hateful won’t shrink everyone else’s property....

All sorts of people are breaking rules not just the “ privileged” ones.
Some people have been taking the piss all along this last lockdown .
You only have to watch social media “ stars”🤣 and their timelines to see this.
This pisses me off big time 🤯😡

Well I live in a big house, with a big garden, in the countryside. Lucky me, yes we had a blessed lockdown.

However, I also lost both my parents within two days in January to Covid, in their care home. Not so lucky me.

Everyone has something shit in their lives. Scratch the surface, you may find that those whom you assume have perfect lives, don't always fit your narrative.

Lucy does sound like an arse but bringing wealth, house size etc into just makes you sound jealous tbh.

@LucilleTheVampireBat

I have followed the rules to the letter. Since Christmas I have only been to work. No where else. I caught Covid. I must have caught it at work from other who presumably didn’t follow the rules

Eh?! 🤣

Why ‘eh’? And having Covid isn’t funny. How else do you suggest I caught it? I work in a school and know for a fact that many families aren’t following the rules. I must have caught it from school as I literally haven’t been anywhere else.

I am really sorry about your parents @BigWoollyJumpers

Lucy is a dick, not for her big house but for her attitude to your bereaved friend.

Exactly!
Lucy would be a dick with no empathy no matter what house she lived in.

Assuming no health issues, disability, bereavement, abuse etc it's obvious that a family on a (say) six figure income with a big detached house in the countryside, money and space for outside toys, laptop each for the kids, home office, subscriptions to things, online shopping, takeaways etc are likely to fare better than a family on minimum wages in a cramped flat, no garden or easy access to open space, surrounded by crime, struggling with childcare, limited tech, no money for extras etc. We are not "in this together" however much privileged people like to pretend we are. I fall into neither category btw and am just plodding on somewhere in between for now.

against all the rules of lockdown to go and visit a friend. We are told to stay home to save the lives of those around us.

Her friend is bereaved and struggling. The Rules can get to fuck.

E. M. Forster: 'If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country'.

Just because your mate is a nasty piece of work, doesn't mean everyone else automatically is because of their circumstances. It's odd that you use your friend's character defects to smear people you don't know.

@DrCoconut

Assuming no health issues, disability, bereavement, abuse etc it's obvious that a family on a (say) six figure income with a big detached house in the countryside, money and space for outside toys, laptop each for the kids, home office, subscriptions to things, online shopping, takeaways etc are likely to fare better than a family on minimum wages in a cramped flat, no garden or easy access to open space, surrounded by crime, struggling with childcare, limited tech, no money for extras etc. We are not "in this together" however much privileged people like to pretend we are. I fall into neither category btw and am just plodding on somewhere in between for now.

Yes, the clue being your first four words.

"Assuming no health issues"

Many people seem to be making the assumption that a larger house plus garden equals perfect mental health and coping during this lockdown.

Let me tell you on behalf of me and a couple of my friends (one who I referred to further up thread), that it doesn't. And the assumption alone is frankly insulting.

We are fortunate enough to live in a big house and its made a massive difference during lockdown. We have space to get away from each other if we need to, outdoor space when we want it. We could work from home. It wasn't ideal but neither was it awful.

Families cooped up in 2 bed flat with children and no garden ( or worse conditions) will have had a very different experience and quite honestly we found it hard enough.

YANBU

Someone I know actually posted a picture of themselves drinking champagne in the garden in Lockdown 1 with the hashtag #stayathomeanddrinkchampagne

@Okbussitout

What a surprise that privlidged people don't have much empathy!

But having plenty of indoor and outdoor space while being in lockdown makes life so much easier

In your opinion. I have average space but am single. I can get out in my garden as much as I want but what I want is to meet up with friends and laugh.

But I have vulnerabilities to covid (thankfully I am now vaccinated) and I have a child with even more vulnerabilities. We will be restricting our social circle until he is vaccinated. Doesn't matter what the rules are or aren't, we need to try and stop him getting covid. It would be easy to say 'people who have the advantage of good health have no empathy' but I'm not an idiot and know it's way more complicated than that.

I’d be fucking her off as a mate - sounds an uptight arsehole.

You and Lucy are not friends really are you. Angry horrible thread. Just what we all need. NOT

I hear you OP.

I’m alright Jack springs to mind. They’re so out of touch with the realities and struggles of other people. Just a normal day then...

I am glad that according to the OP, as I have neither unlimited beach access, acres of land, horses, a private gym,

I am therefore entitled to say "fuck the rich" and ignore all guidelines and and break all the rules.

The rich have no idea of how hard we are struggling, so I am living my best life from now.

Thanks OP.

I don’t know ANYONE who has stuck diligently to the rules these days.
In the beginning people did.
Isolation even on birthdays for the very old..

But NOW?

Nah.
People are meeting outside out of sheer loneliness.
Good for you meeting your bereaved friend.

I think that is actually allowed, anyway.

I have met people outdoors and wearing masks and so far none of us has contracted Covid.

YABU
Whilst it’s fine for you to go and see your friend IMO, you have just judged a swathe of society because they have stuff in common with Lucy. People can be twats, people from all walks of life. Lucy is a twat for example. Don’t also be a twat by making a load of judgement on randoms.