To be crying over the Caroline Flack programme?

[Franch2892]

I don't really cry at TV or movies usually but this really hit me.
I finished watching the programme feeling somewhat 'depressed'.
I felt it was very relatable.
I've had times of depression and horrible thoughts and seeing her mum and friends talk about her made me realise how loved most people don't even realise they are.

It just hit me after the documentary how quickly people can be taken away and how we just never see them again.

I don't know, it's just made me really really sad

I bet some of the people posting in this thread are the same scum who are posting on Tattle

@raskolnikova

Of course she wasn't convicted, she killed herself before trial. In the absence of a trial there will be people who think she was abusive and people who think she wasn't.

I don't know how LB selling the photos proves CF wasn't abusive.

It proves he wasn't a total victim. So scared of her and needed to run off to Oz was he that he remained in the media stirring it up.

Read his statement about her when she died.

@Wondermule she was not addicted to fame.

The sympathy is not because she's a female abuser. It's because she injured herself just as much as she did him on that one off occasion and the woman is dead. See, people on the whole are quite empathetic like that.

The lack of tears is not enough for you to make your offensive statement. Perhaps she is still in shock. I'm pretty sure I would be if my twin had died in awful circumstances and had the media circus she has.

I don't know anything about LB, but I don't believe only nice people can be victims of violence. Horrible people can also be victims of violence and abuse. I don't believe in the 'perfect victim'.

To be honest, for me the question of whether CF was a serial domestic abuser or not is less of an issue than the weird excuses - and they definitely are excuses - some people make about this situation. As I said before, I initially had sympathy for CF, but reading 'It was only a little cut on his head/he sold the story/but she paid his debts' makes me very uncomfortable. I had the same sort of things said to me after experiencing violence too.

@raskolnikova

I don't know anything about LB, but I don't believe only nice people can be victims of violence. Horrible people can also be victims of violence and abuse. I don't believe in the 'perfect victim'.

To be honest, for me the question of whether CF was a serial domestic abuser or not is less of an issue than the weird excuses - and they definitely are excuses - some people make about this situation. As I said before, I initially had sympathy for CF, but reading 'It was only a little cut on his head/he sold the story/but she paid his debts' makes me very uncomfortable. I had the same sort of things said to me after experiencing violence too.

The reason they are saying it is because the level of bullying from the media and the mishandling from the police contributed to her death.

No, I understand your point given LB, but given you say yourself you don't know much about him, look him up.

@raskolnikova

I don't know anything about LB, but I don't believe only nice people can be victims of violence. Horrible people can also be victims of violence and abuse. I don't believe in the 'perfect victim'.

To be honest, for me the question of whether CF was a serial domestic abuser or not is less of an issue than the weird excuses - and they definitely are excuses - some people make about this situation. As I said before, I initially had sympathy for CF, but reading 'It was only a little cut on his head/he sold the story/but she paid his debts' makes me very uncomfortable. I had the same sort of things said to me after experiencing violence too.

Ah sorry Rask, I've mixed up LB and the previous ex who made up nonsense about her.

No, I'm not interested in LB, I'm not massively interested in CF either to be honest, I just see people minimising an act of violence and that I have an issue with. If you don't think people have been doing that, it will have to be another case of 'agree to disagree'.

okay x post, I think I'll leave this conversation now

@raskolnikova

No, I'm not interested in LB, I'm not massively interested in CF either to be honest, I just see people minimising an act of violence and that I have an issue with. If you don't think people have been doing that, it will have to be another case of 'agree to disagree'.

I do think people have been minimising, but I understand why.

Her family seemed to expect this outcome to her life. That's what I found the saddest. She should have been in rehab long ago, but I don't even know if professional help would have saved her from herself.

She was too fragile and emotionally immature for the path she chose to tread, and I feel very uncomfortable with the "poor caroline" mentality/Saint status she's had since ending her life. She assaulted a BF and appeared to have done this in previous relationships. We can't demand equal treatment to men and then say that DV is OK if the woman is the one hitting.........

@missbridgerton

Her family seemed to expect this outcome to her life. That's what I found the saddest. She should have been in rehab long ago, but I don't even know if professional help would have saved her from herself.

She was too fragile and emotionally immature for the path she chose to tread, and I feel very uncomfortable with the "poor caroline" mentality/Saint status she's had since ending her life. She assaulted a BF and appeared to have done this in previous relationships. We can't demand equal treatment to men and then say that DV is OK if the woman is the one hitting.........

Nobody, absolutely nobody, let alone in the documentary has called her a saint.

'appeared to have done this in previous relationships ' - your evidence being ?

Also, nobody said DV is okay.

Haven't seen it yet but depression is not a temporary problem, good lord