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To think #Allmen has backfired big time in the younger generation?

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katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:14

Since #Allmen started doing the rounds on Instagram at the weekend, DCs secondary school has become a battle of the sexes. Boys are being screamed at by the girls, called rapists, told they’re sexist if the don’t post #allmen on their Instagram. The worst I’ve heard about is a boy being told he should commit suicide by a group of girls (this is now being investigated). This isn’t just at my dcs school, there’s been reports of girls shouting abuse at boys in parks and on the streets around here.
AIBU to think we’ve gone in too hard and should have been educating our dc, not telling them that all men are abusers which is what they seem to have heard.

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Alexandernevermind · 17/03/2021 18:17

Mine haven't even mentioned it? They are both teens.

GreyhoundG1rl · 17/03/2021 18:19

@katieloves

Since #Allmen started doing the rounds on Instagram at the weekend, DCs secondary school has become a battle of the sexes. Boys are being screamed at by the girls, called rapists, told they’re sexist if the don’t post #allmen on their Instagram. The worst I’ve heard about is a boy being told he should commit suicide by a group of girls (this is now being investigated). This isn’t just at my dcs school, there’s been reports of girls shouting abuse at boys in parks and on the streets around here. AIBU to think we’ve gone in too hard and should have been educating our dc, not telling them that all men are abusers which is what they seem to have heard.
That sounds dreadful, but also not that widespread? Not happening round here.
katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:23

@Alexandernevermind are you sure? Ask them what’s being posted on Instagram. My 14 year old Dds is every post and all over 16 year old dss too, with him being told he’s sexist for not getting involved.

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Turtleturtle81 · 17/03/2021 18:24

Based on your #whataboutthemens! posting history I’m going to take a wild guess that this didn’t happen.

Todaytomorrowyesterday · 17/03/2021 18:26

Not the same here but the teen girls are asking for the teen boys to stand along side them. Support them and understand.
The teen boys got very annoyed at the curfew idea but when the girls said it isn’t that a curfew will be out in place it’s to understand the thoughts that women have to think about- walk in our shoes for a bit.
There has also been a little bit of victim blaming which the girls have gone on the defensive.& rightly so.
I know speaking to other mums especially of boys their response is they spend a lot of time worrying about sons being stabbed (male on male crime)

For my daughter she wants everyone to come together and understand that by supporting each other calling out behaviour without fear of repercussions or embarrassment- whether that be you know your mate carry’s a knife or making a girl feel unsafe.

gottenhaitch · 17/03/2021 18:30

So they are OP.

katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:31

@Todaytomorrowyesterday good for your daughter and that would be a wonderful thing instead of pitting them against each other which is what has happened here.

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Butchyrestingface · 17/03/2021 18:35

@katieloves

Since #Allmen started doing the rounds on Instagram at the weekend, DCs secondary school has become a battle of the sexes. Boys are being screamed at by the girls, called rapists, told they’re sexist if the don’t post #allmen on their Instagram. The worst I’ve heard about is a boy being told he should commit suicide by a group of girls (this is now being investigated). This isn’t just at my dcs school, there’s been reports of girls shouting abuse at boys in parks and on the streets around here. AIBU to think we’ve gone in too hard and should have been educating our dc, not telling them that all men are abusers which is what they seem to have heard.
You posted the other day, didn't you? You should have changed your user name. Never has a poster had such an obvious agenda.
katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:36

@Turtleturtle81 do you have teens yourself? This has unfortunately become a thing.

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AlexaShutUp · 17/03/2021 18:37

No, it isn't like that here. I've seen quite a lot of the discussions that dd has been involved in on instagram about these issues, and they're mostly calm and respectful. Girls sharing their experiences, boys sharing posts about how they can avoid making girls feel threatened. There have been a few rather immature, ignorant and/or misogynist posts that dd has firmly but politely challenged, but all very civilised actually. I haven't seen anyone called a rapist. I've seen a few called out for sexism, but rightly so!

katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:40

@Butchyrestingface do you really think #allmen would have no repercussions at all amongst youngsters? I’m not making this up.

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Turtleturtle81 · 17/03/2021 18:40

[quote katieloves]@Turtleturtle81 do you have teens yourself? This has unfortunately become a thing.[/quote]
I don’t have teens. I spend a lot of time around them.
Remember to change your username next time.

FamilyOfAliens · 17/03/2021 18:42

[quote katieloves]@Butchyrestingface do you really think #allmen would have no repercussions at all amongst youngsters? I’m not making this up.[/quote]
Sure you’re not.

Pumperthepumper · 17/03/2021 18:42

Can we see a screenshot of the Instagram messages? You can edit out the names.

katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:43

@AlexaShutUp are you saying that all the negative posting is being done by the boys? The girls around you have not posted anything offensive to the boys?

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IM0GEN · 17/03/2021 18:45

I have two teens and nothing like this has happened at their school or amongst their friends.

How very odd that it’s happened to the children of someone with views like your own. Maybe your misogyny has rubbed on your children and they are expressing their prejudices at school.

Magnificentmug12 · 17/03/2021 18:46

You have this skewed, it isn’t girls against boys or women against men.....why have you gotten that impression?

This is about male violence and being against male violence. Obviously it’s not all men, but men commit the most violence

GreyhoundG1rl · 17/03/2021 18:46

I have teens, op. It's not a thing.

FamilyOfAliens · 17/03/2021 18:47

Maybe spend a bit less time looking at your DC’s friends’ Instagram pages?

Just a thought.

mbosnz · 17/03/2021 18:47

Yep, two teens here, and not a thing. Fairly stupendous eyeroll at my query. . .

katieloves · 17/03/2021 18:48

@IM0GEN My dc have not posted anything on their Instagram. They and I are not misogynistic. I find your post incredibly offensive.

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Mintjulia · 17/03/2021 18:50

My ds hasn't even mentioned it.

At the weekend he asked, and I explained what the lantern in the driveway was for. Since then, it hasn't come up.

LolaSmiles · 17/03/2021 18:50

It's not something I've heard of either, nor is it something any of my friends have heard.

There sure is a handful of butwhataboutthemenmenaretherealvictimshere posters at the moment.

Pumperthepumper · 17/03/2021 18:51

[quote katieloves]@Alexandernevermind are you sure? Ask them what’s being posted on Instagram. My 14 year old Dds is every post and all over 16 year old dss too, with him being told he’s sexist for not getting involved.[/quote]
Do they post on Instagram or not?

JosieJarker · 17/03/2021 18:53

Ive just searched instagram for your hashtag #allmen.
Its been posted 23k times.
#notallmen has been posted 43k.
So there is twice as much namalting going on than there is man bashing, on instagram.

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