To think #Allmen has backfired big time in the younger generation?

[katieloves]

Since #Allmen started doing the rounds on Instagram at the weekend, DCs secondary school has become a battle of the sexes. Boys are being screamed at by the girls, called rapists, told they’re sexist if the don’t post #allmen on their Instagram. The worst I’ve heard about is a boy being told he should commit suicide by a group of girls (this is now being investigated). This isn’t just at my dcs school, there’s been reports of girls shouting abuse at boys in parks and on the streets around here.
AIBU to think we’ve gone in too hard and should have been educating our dc, not telling them that all men are abusers which is what they seem to have heard.

My DD hasn't mentioned it and she's normally all over (or least has knowledge about) the latest trends.

It's certainly not happening around here and yes I do have a teenager.

Girls telling anyone to go and commit suicide and screaming 'rapist' at innocent people are cuts anyway and they would've been cunts before any of this 🤷‍♀️

Yeah right

I work in a school. It's not been mentioned at all.

I've have a teen girl. I just asked her and she's not seen anything like this, but she has seen the opposite - a handful of teen boys making threats to the girls to "do to them what happened to Sarah". Dreadful and v scary.

Nope, the boys are still on the streets harassing the girls here, so nothing has changed. My teens don't have Instagram though so have no idea what is being posted. Maybe encourage them to step away from social media and take a break from it if they can't cope with it.

Perhaps limit your children’s social media use if it’s as toxic as you say it is.

@LucieStar

I've have a teen girl. I just asked her and she's not seen anything like this, but she has seen the opposite - a handful of teen boys making threats to the girls to "do to them what happened to Sarah". Dreadful and v scary.

I hope she reported them to the police?

AlexaShutUp are you saying that all the negative posting is being done by the boys? The girls around you have not posted anything offensive to the boys?

I haven't seen any offensive comments posted by the girls to the boys, no. I have seen girls calling out sexism and misogyny and pointing out male privilege, but not in an offensive manner at all.

To be fair, it's only a very small handful of boys who are posting offensive or goady comments. The vast majority of boys are either keeping out of it altogether, quietly liking posts in support of women's safety or actively posting things about how men can help to address the issue of male violence against women.

I don't see any evidence of an attack on boys at all, if that's what you're looking for.

[quote katieloves]@IM0GEN My dc have not posted anything on their Instagram. They and I are not misogynistic. I find your post incredibly offensive.[/quote]
I don’t mind you being offended. I’m sure you don’t like people, especially women, disagreeing with you.

But we are talking about three dead women every week in the UK and hundreds raped and assaulted. So it’s not really about your feelings or mine. Or even your sons’.

Women’s lives matter.

18,16 and 12 here - all girls - nope not a 'thing' at all

16 year old and her class mates have used the discussion around it to confront a class mate who has been verbally harassing them all - and making vile sexual texts etc and warn him that they will report him to 6th form if it continues - I see nothing wrong with that

Maybe in this world you live in the boys deserve to be pulled up for their behaviour?

@WorraLiberty

It wasn't her the comments were directed at, but it's been reported to the Headteacher, yes. It's being taken very seriously by the school.

“They and I are not misogynistic”

There sure is a lot of internalised misogyny in your posting history

Could you post screenshots OP?

@LucieStar that's good news

@IM0GEN, with respect, I agree with your sentiments entirely, but I don't think it's helpful for us to hijack the BLM slogan.

My dc have not posted anything on their Instagram. They and I are not misogynistic so why are they all bothered about it then?

You aren't ever ever sexist - neither of your sons has ever ever ever said a single sexist thing ever or done anything to make women feel uneasy ever ever - so they wont ever be confronted

some boys do and deserve to be told too fuck off - girls don;t have to mind their manners, ask politely, be kind or worry about offending you

I have a teen and I’m a secondary school teacher and I’ve not heard anything like that. There’s been convos in the 6th form years but the males and females are mostly all on the same page so there’s been no arguments just discussions. I’ve been pretty impressed actually.

Ive just searched instagram for your hashtag #allmen.
Its been posted 23k times.
#notallmen has been posted 43k.
So there is twice as much namalting going on than there is man bashing, on instagram.

That’s quite shocking actually! I was hoping it would be the other way around.

I've not heard all men at all, I've seen a lot of notallmen

Tbh whilst I'm not condoning the behaviour, it very much sounds like an isolated/ overexaggerated incident. I wouldn't really call that reason why allmen back fires

Teanage boys have for years picked up misogyny from the media, they have picked up violence against women from porn so I really can't muster up much horror at all men 'backfiring'. Its about time they picked up an alternative view point t

@toocold54

Ive just searched instagram for your hashtag #allmen. Its been posted 23k times. #notallmen has been posted 43k. So there is twice as much namalting going on than there is man bashing, on instagram.

That’s quite shocking actually! I was hoping it would be the other way around.

I've just looked at the actual posts under #notallmen on Instagram, and strangely, it seems many of them are actually in favour of it being all men who need to take responsibility. So when you look at the actual posts - many of them are in fact advocating support of the #allmen cause. If that makes any sense.

do you really think #allmen would have no repercussions at all amongst youngsters? I’m not making this up.

@katieloves it wouldn’t have any negative repercussions. It may offend some males but it will only be those males who have something to hide/be ashamed of so I wouldn’t worry about their opinions.

So when you look at the actual posts - many of them are in fact advocating support of the #allmen cause. If that makes any sense.

That is really good!

I wonder if this thread has gone a little differently from how the OP envisaged...