I despair

[Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel]

Just when you think it can't get worse...yes it's the DM, if you don't like the DM don't click. I am at a loss to how this creature thought it was a, funny and b, fine to share. When normal people are sickened and horrified by this beautiful young womans life being taken. Hope they get sacked and never find another job. Bastard.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9369547/Cop-Sarah-Everard-crime-scene-sent-vile-parody-Highway-Code-seven-officers.html

If this doesn't prove how institutionally misogynistic the police is, I don't know what will.

I'm glad it was reported swiftly and action taken. I hope the officer is fired, this is gross misconduct surely.

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell you it's one bad apple but he judged that 7 of his colleagues would share his amusement. What does that tell us about misogyny in the police force? The fact that he has been removed from a public facing role rather than suspended pending investigation or dismissed feels quite telling to me. His actions do not reflect a need for training they reflect an absolute lack of compassion and empathy. He needs to go so that Sarah's family know that her murder is being investigated by professionals who do not think it's good source material for an appalling joke.

The news report only mentions the number of colleagues he shared the message with, how many others received it? I'd bet my house none of them were women.

I may be wrong but I have not seen anything similar relating to male victims of murder, apparently dead women are funnier.

This is the reality for women in 2021. A male friend said to me recently we seem to be going backwards.

Just what is wrong with so many men in this country that they are behaving like this?

It’s disgusting and sadly not even that surprising since a similar thing happened last year. A police officer took selfies with the bodies of two women and shared them in a public WhatsApp group

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-53198702

Absolutely disgusting. His colleagues reported him though? Which they'd have not bothered doing if they were all misogynistic bastards right? That gives me hope at least.

[quote veganmayo]It’s disgusting and sadly not even that surprising since a similar thing happened last year. A police officer took selfies with the bodies of two women and shared them in a public WhatsApp group

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-53198702[/quote]
Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry

And it was worse, the police officers (yes, plural) posed for selfies with their actual bodies.

It wasn't a meme it was desecration.

he judged that 7 of his colleagues would share his amusement. What does that tell us about misogyny in the police force?

This exactly.

@Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel

he judged that 7 of his colleagues would share his amusement. What does that tell us about misogyny in the police force?

This exactly.

Yet those same colleagues reported him, don't forget. Otherwise no one would even know about this and they'd all still be laughing at sick jokes in their WhatsApp group.

It's absolutely disgusting that anyone could think this was ok, or the posing with dead bodies. That people who think this way decide to be police officers and actually get in, despite the number of people rejected is concerning.

I hope he is fired and quickly.

Can we please not tar the entire police force with this? This individual was clearly absolutely deplorable. But there are some damn good officers out there who do their best to keep us safe and would be absolutely repulsed to receive a message like that from a colleague - my DP being one of those. They can't all be tarred with this disgusting brush, that's not fair.

When normal people are sickened and horrified by this beautiful young womans life being taken.

Many of those normal people being some of the other officers who attended the scene, no doubt.

No one is saying every officer in the police is the same @LucieStar but when the ‘bad apples’ are getting off for a bushel, questions have to be asked.

Getting on*

Yet those same colleagues reported him, don't forget.

We do not know how many of his colleagues he misjudged as being the sort to find it funny but we do know that he works in an environment where he thought 7 of them would find it funny. It would be a spectacularly error to have misjudged your entire audience.

spectacular

@NormanStangerson

No one is saying every officer in the police is the same *@LucieStar but when the ‘bad apples’ are getting off for a bushel, questions have* to be asked.

I agree that these individuals need to be called out and dealt with by the powers that be and the idiots who recruited them.

But I'm getting very tired of comments like "this shows how misogynistic the police force is" - it's such a blanket statement that completely disregards the ones who go out every day putting themselves at risk and taking abuse from the public like my DP, who would be beyond disgusted at a colleague's behaviour like that.

Saying "he judged that 7 others would share his amusement" and therefore that's evidence of misogyny is completely nonsensical when one of more of those individuals who he shared with also reported it. Why would they have done that if they were all corrupt sick bastards? Those officers who reported it are the only reason anyone is aware it happened and this vile individual can now be dealt with. It's precisely because of them, that this has been exposed. People seem to be missing that.

Perhaps I'm just sick to death of seeing blanket police bashing recently. I worry myself sick every time my partner goes on shift thanks to the shit he has to deal with. And now this - another excuse to bash an entire profession made of many decent people, one of whom I love dearly.
Perhaps I'm overly defensive for that reason. 🤷‍♀️

@FOJN

Yet those same colleagues reported him, don't forget.

We do not know how many of his colleagues he misjudged as being the sort to find it funny but we do know that he works in an environment where he thought 7 of them would find it funny. It would be a spectacularly error to have misjudged your entire audience.

Then he's a total arsehole as well as a really shit judge of character, isn't he. Or just not very bright. But it's on him alone. No one else.

And I find it easy for o believe he misjudged his audience given that article states he's young and new to the job.

*easy to believe

God I feel sick. I have hope for the officers who reported it, but that makes my flesh crawl.

@LucieStar

And I find it easy for o believe he misjudged his audience given that article states he's young and new to the job.

He's 22 and a probationary officer - that means he was brand new pretty much. Of course he misjudged his audience.

As per the link above, police officers got off with taking pictures with the 2 murdered ladies right?

How many more of these events take place with no one reporting it?

I appreciate that it’s not all police and not all men but I find it interesting that ‘it’s not all’ is only ever bandied about used at specific times and for specific groups of people.

Why would they have done that if they were all corrupt sick bastards?

No one on this thread has characterised the police in that way.

He was a probationer, presumably someone is responsible for overseeing his training, I would imagine that if it came to light that a more senior officer was aware of the conduct and had not reported it then their conduct would also be investigated so I'd suggest some of the reporting has been out of self preservation.

You are missing the point that he has been working in an environment where he did not think that meme was inappropriate to share with more experienced colleagues. How has he reached that conclusion? I suspect the attitude his message displayed has been played out before him and he was too inexperinced to understand that colleagues would join in with the joke as long as he wasn't stupid enough to create a record as evidence which would implicate them all.

This is not blanket police bashing, its discussing a series of actions the police have taken which seem to show a lack of respect for women and questioning whether this is part of police culture.

@PurpleBiro21

As per the link above, police officers got off with taking pictures with the 2 murdered ladies right?

How many more of these events take place with no one reporting it?

I appreciate that it’s not all police and not all men but I find it interesting that ‘it’s not all’ is only ever bandied about used at specific times and for specific groups of people.

I'm commenting on the topic of this thread specifically and the actions of that one officer (who wasn't even a fully fledged officer yet as he was in his probationary period so it's not like he's been around in the force for ages doing shit like this and getting away with it). I'm saying that his actions alone are absolutely not evidence that the entire police force are misogynistic bastards, as has been suggested.

Like I say - the very fact it was called out and reported is evidence against that claim. They could have all kept quiet couldn't they? And just carried on the joke? They were appalled so it was reported.

Maybe I should just step away from MN for a while as I can't honestly cope with another police bashing thread after all the recent ones, especially with the shit my DP had had to deal with through this pandemic as well.

I'll step away. Carry on.