I despair

[Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel]

Just when you think it can't get worse...yes it's the DM, if you don't like the DM don't click. I am at a loss to how this creature thought it was a, funny and b, fine to share. When normal people are sickened and horrified by this beautiful young womans life being taken. Hope they get sacked and never find another job. Bastard.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9369547/Cop-Sarah-Everard-crime-scene-sent-vile-parody-Highway-Code-seven-officers.html

Absolutely bloody vile.

Sadly, I am not shocked.

Whilst some police officers are decent, good, human beings who join the force to help humanity, some are thugs who are rotten-to-the-core, and join the force for the power it gives them. Just like the creature who killed Sarah.

We don't just need to worry about men hating women. Seems there are plenty of women too. Sad.

The actions of this officer were deplorable. Clearly at least one of his colleagues agreed because they reported him.

As worrying as this behaviour is it doesn’t reflect accurately on the Police service that I worked in for 30 years. Yes there are definitely certain officers that should not be in the job and this is the same for any profession.

Unfortunately it is the bad apples in the barrel that most people remember. The Met Police have always had a reputation for being a law unto themselves and clearly this behaviour does nothing to dispel this reputation.

@LucieStar I’m afraid being young and experienced doesn’t quite cut it for me. What kind of person of any any could possibly think that it’s funny that a young person (male or female) has been murdered. That is not just misjudgment about the audience, it’s just plain wrong and cannot be excused. I can see you feel exactly the same.

@LucieStar I’m afraid being young and experienced doesn’t quite cut it for me. What kind of person of any any could possibly think that it’s funny that a young person (male or female) has been murdered. That is not just misjudgment about the audience, it’s just plain wrong and cannot be excused. I can see you feel exactly the same.

PLEASE read my recent comments for the context of this comment. It's getting tiresome defending this decontextualised comment.

Of course I do NOT defend his actions - what he did is disgusting. I defended the officers who received the message - I said I don't think it's fair to assume they gave him the impression his message would be happily received. In that sense - it's entirely possible he misjudged his audience; as opposed to his audience being misogynistic dickheads too.

Thanks for answering @LucieStar.

I'm stepping off this thread now.

I'm heavily pregnant and due any moment, as well as dealing with constant worry about my DP who is currently at work probably being verbally or even physically abused purely because of his uniform.

I can't keep defending my comments that others aren't able to understand, or be accused of "diminishing" this man's disgusting actions when every comment I've made about the guy directly contradicts that logic. And then not being apologised to for that false accusation, either.

MN isn't good for me right now, that much is clear.

As worrying as this behaviour is it doesn’t reflect accurately on the Police service that I worked in for 30 years. Yes there are definitely certain officers that should not be in the job and this is the same for any profession.

It doesn't reflect the force my partner works for, either. Which by the way isn't the Met.

I don’t think that all cops are bastards however enough of them are that it’s a very serious problem. Some years ago now the metropolitan police were found to be institutionally racist. That doesn’t mean that all of the police officers were or are racist but enough of them are that it effected/effects how they do their job and how the public react to them.

I would say that in my experience and the experience of other women I know who have been on the receiving end of domestic violence or their jobs involve assisting victims of DV, there is a lot of deep rooted misogyny in the police as a whole, not just the Met. There’s some brilliant officers but “some” isn’t good enough. One bad apple can spoil the barrel. A “bad apple” I encountered years ago when I disclosed a sexual assault against me told me that the police had better things to do with their time than deal with my “problem”. His colleague said nothing. So actually that’s 2 bad apples. Either way I can safely say I have never and will never report any of the other sexual assaults or rapes that have happened to me since.

Back to the OP, I wonder how often similar memes had been shared previously in that WhatsApp group or elsewhere with that young officers colleagues that made him think that was going to be ok? Also, and I can’t express this enough, I find it so much more depressing that a young person coming up through the police force is a misogynistic prick than some old dinosaur. It doesn’t fill me with hope that these attitudes are on the way out.

It’s not really the same for any profession though - car sales is a deeply misogynistic profession too. The difference with the Police is they have power over women, and we see a lot of treatment of women at the hands of the police that actively put women in danger.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/15/sarah-everard-met-officer-removed-from-duties-for-sending-offensive-message

Slightly more detail here if anyone is interested.

It was sent on Thursday and reported the next day on Friday so there was no messing about with reporting him. Apparently: "the sharing of the graphic was reported by a number of these officers who were concerned by its content.", so not just one. That's hopeful.

He's been taken off duties and is being investigated by the Independent Office for Police Conduct.

Oh my life. Your husband's getting spat on and abused every day? That's terrible but SO ARE WOMEN!

And unlike women, your husband choose willingly to join a profession that has a long, well documented history of violence and abuse against whole intersectionality of people.

Women? We were born the perceived weaker sex and we pay for it every day.

This isn't the place, the moment, the thread or the time to talk to other women like they are incapable of making logical reasoned correlations between the acts of violence perpetrated against women by police officers and the reports that we have starting to become more publicised now.

If you're a police officer and you're one of the 'good ones' you should be speaking out against this type of behaviour in the police force.

Affect change, don't be compliant!

Whether you still work for it or retired, you should do some grassroots campaigning or do some teaching and training about what it means to be a good role model in the force.

This is what women are doing to improve their lives and the lives of their loved ones.

What are the so called 'good ones' doing? Nothing but complaining about women speaking out!

Could anyone post photos of Sarah, Nicole and Bibaa, so that we can get the focus of the thread back on them and not on NAPOALT?

NO! He is still on duty - is removed from public facing duties. NOT the same as a suspension!

@sticktomygun

NO! He is still on duty - is removed from public facing duties. NOT the same as a suspension!

Please calm down.

It's a quote from the article

The PC had been deployed as a cordon officer supporting the search operation in Kent in relation to the murder of Sarah Everard. The officer has been removed from these duties and placed in a non-public facing role while enquiries continue.

Where did I say "suspension"?

You didn't say suspension.

Me and several other posters in this thread said that is what should happen to him. (Because the metropolitan police should take this more seriously that they have in my opinion. because otherwise what's the deterrent not to behave like this if you're not going to be dismissed etc etc)

You said in your post that 'he been taken off duty'.

I felt it important to note that is incorrect and he in fact still on duty, just not facing the public.

Therefore, although they have taken some action I don't believe that is proportional.

I believe that you were misrepresenting the contents and the facts of the article and I sought to clarify this for the good of the thread.

I do not in fact need to calm down. (Interesting patronising, minimising tone you have there. Am I being too passionate for you? But you're allowed to type while 'sobbing'....hmm)

You need to stop misinterpreting and misrepresenting facts and articles to try and prove your point which has already been agreed with multiple times on this thread - that not all police...

Are we allowed to talk about the police that do yet? And what we can do about that?

@sticktomygun

I didn't deliberately misinterpret anything - so if my summary wasn't sufficient I do apologise (for the 3rd time on this thread).

I was trying to share additional information from a more reputable source.

You were typing quite angrily in capitals at me - I felt unfairly so. That's why I said please calm down. Nothing to do with being "passionate". I interpreted it as anger and since I've been on the receiving end of a few misjudgments and incorrect assumptions already on this thread, you can surely see why.

Also, I was asked by another poster what I thought was an appropriate consequence for him and I went one step further than suspension and said he should lose his job entirely, and even be prosecuted (although I'm not sure if his actions would constitute an offence but they should!).

So - we are arguing for the same consequences and outcomes.

*If you're a police officer and you're one of the 'good ones' you should be speaking out against this type of behaviour in the police force.

Affect change, don't be compliant!*

Yes, entirely agree with this. It's what the good officers I know would do.

Can we please not tar the entire police force with this?

NAPALT amirite?

Also, and I can’t express this enough, I find it so much more depressing that a young person coming up through the police force is a misogynistic prick than some old dinosaur. It doesn’t fill me with hope that these attitudes are on the way out

What GladysTheGroovyMule said.

And it appears to me that most, if not all, police forces are institutionally misogynist. 'Not My Sgt Nigel' is very nice and might even be true but doesn't really get us anywhere

@LucieStar

You *@LucieStar* are also diminishing this. You say he misjudged his audience, he is young and new at the job. I would be absolutely horrified if my son thought that making fun of a dead woman was acceptable.

Wrong.

Read back for the context of that particular comment I made.

Another poster claimed that his "audience" had clearly given him the impression it was acceptable to send the message; thereby evidencing the misogyny of the police force. She said it wasn't possible he had "misjudged" his audience.

I argued that it was entirely possible given his age and inexperience- therefore his actions cannot be attributable to others' seemingly giving him permission to do what he did.

Context of my comments, please.

@LucieStar you did say he misjudged his audience. Do you think there should have been an audience?

Are you saying that the reprehensible actions of a Police Office should be forgiven because your husband is a good cop?
Fuck me, have you seen how women have been treated by the police lately?

@OrraBoralis

Perhaps ask @FOJN whether he should have had an audience, since it was them who used the term "audience" first, as follows:

"We do not know how many of his colleagues he misjudged as being the sort to find it funny but we do know that he works in an environment where he thought 7 of them would find it funny. It would be a spectacularly error to have misjudged your entire audience."

So I challenged this, by saying we cannot blame a person's "audience" for their actions. Their actions are on them alone. She asserts that "he thought 7 of them would find it funny", using this to suggest they would have encouraged or condoned it somehow.

So, again - for the absolute last time on this thread - I pointed out that that assumption is not fair on anyone who is a recipient of a message. We have absolutely no evidence that they encouraged or condoned anything. In fact, we have evidence that several of them were disgusted enough to report it the very next day.

Are you saying that the reprehensible actions of a Police Office should be forgiven because your husband is a good cop?

No.
I am not saying this.
Again, read my posts.
This is becoming tedious

@OrraBoralis

One last time specifically for your benefit. Earlier I was asked what I felt should be the consequences for this man. I replied:

"I think he should be severely disciplined and chucked out of the police force! Even prosecuted! I don't know if what he did constitutes an offence but it fucking should."

Can you point out, please, how, based on this, you have now managed to conclude I think his actions should be excused.