My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

[murdernextdoor]

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

To the poster who said would I feel the same about a drunk driver?? Are you serious. Of course I would. That would be even more premeditation to drive drunk knowing you could kill someone! Yikes. I would seriously judge anyone who did that and especially if they did kill someone.

This man lost his temper and killed another man.

This makes me uncomfortable as now I feel to scared to ever say anything. Let's say it was really loud, I wouldn't dare ask them to turn the music down for example.
Or if they blocked my drive etc.

I get on well with all my neighbours and we all look out for one another. This has really shook me up. I can't see how anyone can justify a pub scrap which resulted in a death of a man to me not knowing the circumstances. I do know more from the articles but I don't want to say all the specifics as it will out my area. Have you ever seen two men fighting outside a pub? It's almost always over nothing and one or both trying to act the big man. Only this time a man died because of it.

If you are all so happy to have this man next door then drop your addresses and I'll tell them to move next to you!!

@Cassilis attitudes like this completely destroy any notion of rehabilitation, which in turn increases the likelihood of re-offending.

There's another way of thinking about this. If he is a viscious thug rather than someone who made a mistake living next to him and your kids playing with his kids is a lot safer than making an enemy of him. My DNan used to live above a member of a biker gang with various convictions so never had any problems and one of the few houses in the area that never had so much as an attempted burglary.

@murdernextdoor I am the poster who made the comment about drunk driving. Just why exactly did you post in AIBU?

Well I certainly wouldn't be happy with him living next door to me but hes got to live somewhere.
I understand why you dont want him living there but not sure what you can do about it unless you chose to move. But your New ndn could be even worse.
Ywbvu to exclude his dc. They have done nothing wrong and shouldn't be held responsible for what their dad did.

It was manslaughter not murder - that means he didn't intend to kill someone. Men (wrongly) fight outside pubs all the time. It's tragic someone died but it's not surprising that it happens. If they decided it wasn't murder the likelihood is the fight was 50/50, not some premeditated attack by your neighbour

@Bleughbleughbleugh12

I’d be wary but not too worried as a PP said at least it wasn’t a woman

What are you talking about? This is a shocking thing to say.

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far

I'm not sure. I think it's very easy to eg knock someone over so that they hit their head in the exact right spot etc. Obviously that's speculation, but I don't think it's always as simple as taking a fight too far.

For all anyone knows he could deeply regret his actions or he could be a cold blooded killer that doesn't care. Either way, his children aren't at fault, so if you have no concerns otherwise, I wouldn't stop your children playing with them outside.

@ParkheadParadise

The evil bastard who murdered my dd lived in the same street as my sister.

The circumstances you describe wouldn't bother me personally.
His children are innocent please don't label them.

I'm so sorry. That must have been a horrendous experience for you.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Cassilis attitudes like this completely destroy any notion of rehabilitation, which in turn increases the likelihood of re-offending.[/quote]
Given what’s happened to an innocent woman 11 days ago, I find that I really don’t care how violent men feel and I doubt OP keeping her distance will make him re-offend, and makes it a woman’s peoblem to make him feel welcome.

@FelicityMingington
Actually reading it back I see what you mean,
What I meant was at least it wasn’t his partner... obviously this could have been either a man or a woman, my mistake

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@murdernextdoor I am the poster who made the comment about drunk driving. Just why exactly did you post in AIBU?[/quote]
She was expecting everyone to agree with her and do the whole pearl-clutching thing 🙄

I would have to move.

@FelicityMingington again re reading it would seem I care less for that persons life, I absolutely do not. But in keeping with the OP, it would bother me more if it were premeditated or he had killed his partner.

I’ve reported this thread. By the OP’s own admission her next door neighbour was convicted of manslaughter, not murder.

Just stay well away and warn others of him

I wouldn’t let my DC play at his house. Would anybody actually knowingly trust somebody who killed someone in a violent manner to look after their children? They wouldn’t be allowed to work as a teacher or youth worker.

Ever heard of self-defence? You think he'd be 'allowed' to father his children if he was a cold-bloodied killer?

You’ve obviously made your opinion after the gossiping neighbour told you. If you don’t like him because of his past, keep yourself to yourself

Sad that his children have to pay for a crime they didn't commit.

KitesFlyingInTheWind

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far“

Yes, unfortunately sometimes people do. It’s more common than I ever realised until it happened to our peaceable NDn.

@Cassilis firstly that’s a pretty clunky attempt to conflate two totally separate issues. Secondly, offenders who are not given the chance or opportunity to rehabilitate put us all at greater risk.

@Pan2 he won't necessarily be on a lifetime license for man slaughter. Murder yes he would be, manslaughter is different.

@OhWhyNot offenders aren't always housed in not so good areas at all. Sometimes they are housed close to their family or support network or where there is accommodation available.

If you don’t like him because of his past, keep yourself to yourself

That’s exactly what OP wants to do, but it seems people here want her to get the welcoming committee out.

I don’t think there is a lot you can do to be honest. I wouldn’t feel great about living next door to someone like that but then again apart from what you have read in the papers the rest seems to be hearsay from neighbours. Speak to him and go with your gut instinct. If he was such a risk he wouldn’t be allowed access to his children unsupervised. We read about fights where one person has died from one punch, it’s unfortunate and unnecessary but it does not mean the person who died is an innocent party in it.