My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

[murdernextdoor]

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

I aye day a childhood friends house for years, nice parents. Turned out I found out he had ben in prison for manslaughter when he was younger. One punch kill event. Awful but never made me see him differently, murder and manslaughter are 2 very different things.

Op I think you are getting a hard time

I know I work in this area people do no want ex offenders especially those who have committed a violent crime to live close to them poster are talking absolute bollocks and it’s just typical MN nonsense of turning on someone and other pile in

Now for many on MN this will never ever happen they are never housed in nice mc areas

I feel sorry for his children I wouldn’t take it out of them and I think right now you are taken back by this

We don’t know who is living close to us and better that we don’t as there are many dangerous people living in the community who really shouldn’t be (that may not be this man) but when we do find out of course it’s natural to few uncomfortable

I played at* no idea where that gobbledegook came from!

OP you’ve got your arse in your hands because most people don’t agree with you

If you don’t like it move.

Your neighbour is perhaps not what anyone would wish for, but YABU. As plenty of posters have stated already, he was convicted of manslaughter, not murder. Huge difference.

We weren’t best pleased to have a family buy a house around the corner from us, as they have fleed from a nearby town due to the dad being convicted of having child pornography on his computer. It’s just tough luck unfortunately. They have let him move into an estate full of young children. The state’s attitude is ‘Everyone has to live somewhere’ and if he is keeping to all the terms of his release there is nothing anyone can do about it. (Not legally at least).

@OhWhyNot are you saying that convicted offenders are not housed in “nice mc areas”?

How can you say he has no regard for human life? You don't know him, the circumstances surrounding the fight, etc. He did his time. Just live your life and leave the neighbours alone.

You don’t have to be friends with him, or even acknowledge his existence. I’m unclear what you’re worried about - do you think he’s going to come round an manslaughter you?

An acquaintance spent 20 years renting rooms to lifers when they finished their sentences and were released on licence. Never had a problem with any of them and said they were universally quiet, polite and glad to be out. They spent about 12 -18 months adjustment in her house. I hope that reassures some people.

Manslaughter is not an accident though is it?

I would move.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@MegaScared I agree, circs are key. The thing is, OP has made her mind up that this person is a ‘murderer’ despite allegedly knowing the circs.[/quote]
Yes, I agree. I definitely think it can be hard to look at someone and know that they've taken a life but the circumstances really are key and making assumptions without knowing those circumstances really isn't right. OP, you really can't judge this without knowing the circumstances. A serial killer that mutilated and murdered women? Run for hills. A violet nasty drug dealer that killed a man without remorse? Keep away. A man convicted of man slaughter through accidental circumstances that will carry his guilt forever like some of the previous example given? I don't think I could judge that too harshly. I certainly wouldn't be worried he'd murder my kids.

@Changeforchangessake surely there are many cases where manslaughter is an accident?

Now for many on MN this will never ever happen they are never housed in nice mc areas

It happens @Ohwhynot. There are plenty of dodgy convicted criminals who can afford to buy a house anywhere they like. See my post 2 mins ago!

If they are housed no they are not

If they have their own money or returning to previous home (usually move away) that’s different

Flaunch
I listened to a radio interview with a late teenage male who had killed someone by punching them once in the head while drunk. It was heart wrenching. He made a mistake, a hideous mistake that he greatly regretted. He served his sentence and while in prison publicised what had happened in the hope that it wouldn’t happen to anyone else, left prison and went to university and now works to try and stop mindless violence.

Awful things happen and very few people are beyond forgiveness.“

This happened to our NDN in Cornwall. Recently retired after a global career, grandad, embracing the future. Night out with friends in our town, reprimanded a youngster out of control on the harbour. One punch felled him, he never regained consciousness.
It shook our quiet, close community, where our neighbour was well known, liked and respected. Everyone though, including his quite remarkable widow, said it was a double tragedy and I understand she spoke on the young man’s behalf at the inquest.

You're being unreasonable to say he has no regard for human life, you've no idea of the circumstances & manslaughter is quite different to murder, he's also served his time.

I said housed ....

Have look at my link above. It was a program on C4 about people who regretted their actions and are massively remorseful. It made my perspective of man slaughter much clearer. It’s shocking at some points, but it made me understand it.

So what exactly are you proposing to do with this knowledge OP?

Wow! I'm shocked at people's responses. If the victim were a woman people would be quite rightly understanding of the OP's worries. But the victim was a man so we kind of assume that it was a careless mistake.

There's something wrong there.

I would not want a known violent man living next door. OP, was he abusive to his wife?

ok. its not great, but what do you want to do? Move?

@Ginger1982

So what exactly are you proposing to do with this knowledge OP?

It’s in her AIBU, she wants to keep her kids away from them and who can blame her.

He was convicted of manslaughter, not murder, which is a very, very different offence.
He's not a cold, blooded killer, he could have killed the other fighter by punching them in the wrong place.
He will have served time with probation, if not still under them.
And the fact he has his children living with him, says that social care do not see him as a danger. He will have undergone a lot of assessments for this to happen.
Unfortunately everybody makes mistakes in life, some of them bigger than others. You or I don't know what happened at the fight and this guy has to live with it for the rest of his life, especially if it was a careless accident.

@isadoradancing123

Of course you are not being unreasonable, and whatever the circumstances 4 years is not much time to serve for a loss of life

Which suggests it was not considered a specifically violent attack. If two men have a stupid tussle and one stumbles and falls and smacks their head on the ground and dies, that is no different with regards to the level of violence as if two men have a stupid tussle and then stumble off home. The first scenario will be considered man-slaughter because a person died but the action of the offender is no different.