My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

[murdernextdoor]

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

@Flowers24

Maybe report it and see if he can be moved?

@Flowers24

Who would have authority to force him to move? And where should he move to?

TBH, I'd be concerned too, but he has to live somewhere

@murdernextdoor

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

You sound quite pleased about this update ..... that's made me feel quite uncomfortable.

You sound quite pleased about this update .....
that's made me feel quite uncomfortable.

I don’t even think she is telling the truth about that just wants to justify her small minded attitude

Well if that's the case he'll probably be recalled to prison.

If he's a convicted murderer then he's going to be on licence.

Wow, imagine gleefully gloating over a woman getting beaten the shit out of. Jesus Christ.

It's not smug or gloating for her to be vindicated because she was right to be worried and all the insults were just so much sanctimonious bull.

Oh come off it! She resurrected her thread from March to say 'told you so'. You can't get much smugger & gloating than that. No thought for the poor woman - just putting MNers in their place.

@iklboo

It's not smug or gloating for her to be vindicated because she was right to be worried and all the insults were just so much sanctimonious bull.

Oh come off it! She resurrected her thread from March to say 'told you so'. You can't get much smugger & gloating than that. No thought for the poor woman - just putting MNers in their place.

It's her thread, she can do what she wants. If we were interested in the story in March, no reason we wouldn't be interested in it when something relevant happens in May. Enough people have been interested enough to come back and tell her why she's supposedly the villain of the piece.

She's not gloating or pleased that the man beat up his partner. That's just spiteful rubbish from posters who are pissed off that their attempts at moralistic superiority got trashed. Nobody should be surprised that a violent man continues to be violent, and indeed nobody actually is. But the need for moral superiority trumps all else.

But that's the problem with moral superiority; it's not about actually being a decent person, it's about, well, superiority. Which is how we got a ton of people defending a killer on here, and now he turns out to be a domestic abuser too (NO SHIT SHERLOCK), the real villain is still OP. Yay for self-serving moral compasses with no needle.

Thank god he beat up his girlfriend OP- gave you the chance to be able to gleefully report back and say ‘TOLD YOU SO!’

For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t have wanted to live next to him either, I completely empathised with your first post.
Maybe you could use some empathy with the way you talk about a woman getting beaten up...

No regard for human life?

You do realise manslaughter means not premeditated?

He has served his time. Yes you may judge him for fighting but anyone who fights runs this risk and plenty of people do especially when younger. Plenty of people walk away from a fight - sometimes that doesn't happen and its an awful awful unintended consequence.

I am not excusing it. But it is soooo much different to an actual convicted murderer who has therefore premeditated their attack on a person.

YABU, context is important.

I now see this is a resurrected thread and he has done something else. I actually still stand by my comment. Someone being convicted of manslaughter after a fight doesn't mean that theyre a lost cause forever more or dangerous or anything like that. Clearly on this occasion this man is not a savoury character. But manslaughter encompasses such a wide range of situations I just dont think people should be so quick to judge.

I am not excusing it. But it is soooo much different to an actual convicted murderer who has therefore premeditated their attack on a person.

Being convicted of murder does not necessarily mean that the crime as pre-meditated.

As long as he and his family were quiet and decent it wouldn't bother me. One of my neighbor's partners was convicted of manslaughter and did time. He was horrified about it the whole time, made amends and was a brilliant dad. It was an accident.

A family member was nearly convicted of manslaughter as well. Again bloody was high and they were young.

I suppose it depends on the context and if this was a pattern.

*You should be ashamed of how smug you are that some poor woman has been beaten up just cos it proves you right.

I was thinking that, too. The update was in very poor taste, gloating rather than feeling compassion for the GF and the DC.

What a snooty op. Manslaughter is NOT " a convicted murderer" who exactly should have told you anything?
Mind your own business. Poor woman and kids

@DrSbaitso

There's nothing in poor taste about the update. It's highly relevant to the thread and the story. And completely unsurprising. Violent man is violent.

People are just annoyed that OP was right to have reservations about having a killer living next door and have lost all the sanctimony points they thought they had, all the "just one punch" shit. So now they're just scrabbling around for some other way to put OP in the wrong, even though she's not the one who killed a man and beat up a woman.

You’re making an (incorrect) assumption there, that the people who have commented saying the OP sounds smug, are the same people who disagreed with her in the first place.

As someone who has only found this thread this evening and therefore not commented or given my opinion previously, I’ve read through all the posts and the OP does indeed come across, to me, as rather smug with her update.

@Butchyrestingface

I am not excusing it. But it is soooo much different to an actual convicted murderer who has therefore premeditated their attack on a person.

Being convicted of murder does not necessarily mean that the crime as pre-meditated.

My bad. I was getting confused. Actually the different is intent to kill isnt it not pre meditation so manslaughter not only not pre meditated but also no intent to kill.

I’d be uncomfortable to live next door to a man who is known to have been violent. Even if no one had been killed.
I wouldn’t stop my children playing with his children but I wouldn’t want them to be at his house without my supervision.

@murdernextdoor

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

A woman got the shit kicked out of her! Let’s crack open the champagne!

About about a 100 on the tone deaf scale there OP.

You’re making an (incorrect) assumption there, that the people who have commented saying the OP sounds smug, are the same people who disagreed with her in the first place....As someone who has only found this thread this evening and therefore not commented or given my opinion previously, I’ve read through all the posts and the OP does indeed come across, to me, as rather smug with her update.

It's the same pile of shit from people who like to imagine they're the Dalai Lama and are so obsessed with being superior to the OP that they're sneering at "gloating" that doesn't exist, because their superiority complexes are more important to them than the fact that this guy took a man's life and beat up his girlfriend. There's plenty of smugness and gloating going on but it's not from the woman who got torn to shreds because she was worried about living next door to this guy.

Adulterers and men who don't empty the dishwasher get a worse time on here than this killer did, because people are so obsessed with imagined moral superiority that they lose all sense of where the actual harm is.

The guy is a violent shit and everyone who tore a piece off OP was wrong. And they're not getting any righter by continuing to attack her as this violent criminal gets his latest conviction.

Just wait until you see the statistics on school dad's that are looking up childporn in your area.
Or those who think it's ok to murder someone because they have a different colour skin, or are gay, trans, or how many of the people you know who are sexual assaulters.

Well if that isn't a convenient outcome to your already made up mind.

@Butchyrestingface I see you are as charming and righteous as ever. Your ‘update’ is so tasteless and crass.

@murdernextdoor

Well, well, well.

This is a wee update for all you... last night the BF beat the shit out his GF and was taken away by police. Yes, this was the same killer almost all of you said you'd be happy to live beside.

The guy is a cunt and my instincts were correct. He gave me bad vibes and now has once again shown his angry side. Hopefully she dumps him now so he won't be living next door.

Cunts are great.

Please don’t liken an amazing part of the the female body to an abusive murder.

Well said Strawbs.

OP, you lost me when you called him a murderer when he'd actually been done for manslaughter.

Your update was vile. Positively revelling in the beating of another woman because it proved your point. I've worked with children whose father was a domestic abuser. They were traumatised and struggled desperately with it. To think sanctimonious idiots like you would shun them is just awful. No wonder so many women struggle on, living their lives in danger because they are so ashamed of what people might think, children don't speak out because they think they will be tarred with the same brush, you're the sort of person who confirms all those fears.

I recognise that no-one wants to live next to a violent criminal. That's understandable and you had my sympathy for your concerns, they are perfectly normal. I would have serious reservations about letting my children go to their house but I would (and have in a different situation - the Dad was an alcoholic and there were rumours of domestic abuse) let the children come to mine because it's not their fault.

As an aside, can people please move on from using the term 'child pornography' - it's disgusting. They are recordings of CHILD ABUSE. I know 'child pornography' is a term which used to be used but it's not ok.