My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

[murdernextdoor]

Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Butchyrestingface I see you are as charming and righteous as ever. Your ‘update’ is so tasteless and crass.[/quote]
Which one?

Manslaughter is not outright intentional murder
Your comment is out of line that he has no care for human life, but he is a family
Man so you make No sense.
It was accidental obviously
Yet you are all gossips and that's ok.
Waste of time explaining to someone so ignorant

@DrSbaitso

There's nothing in poor taste about the update. It's highly relevant to the thread and the story. And completely unsurprising. Violent man is violent.

People are just annoyed that OP was right to have reservations about having a killer living next door and have lost all the sanctimony points they thought they had, all the "just one punch" shit. So now they're just scrabbling around for some other way to put OP in the wrong, even though she's not the one who killed a man and beat up a woman.

Not at all. I wasn’t critical of the OP’s original post, and actually felt very sorry for her on the basis of her first post. But that was a horrible update, no two ways around it. The ‘well well well’, and hoping the poor beaten woman dumps him so he won’t live on the street, were horribly cold imo.

I can understand why OP felt defensive about the original responses she received, and I can understand why she through the update was relevant to her original post. But the way it was expressed was horrible, and showed no empathy towards the poor woman who was attacked.

@cupoftea2021

Manslaughter is not outright intentional murder Your comment is out of line that he has no care for human life, but he is a family Man so you make No sense. It was accidental obviously Yet you are all gossips and that's ok. Waste of time explaining to someone so ignorant

Who is that directed to - the OP?

Man, this thread is getting confusing.

Firstly, a manslaughter conviction means the jury decided there was no intent to kill. Big, big difference to murdering someone in cold blood and wanting them dead.

Secondly, the wording of your update is so nasty that I think I'd hate living next to you, OP, as much as I would a killer. Revelling and gloating about a woman being beaten because it proves your point? Vile.

You were right. Great. Well bot so great since your confirmation came from a woman being beaten up badly. You sound almost gleeful at this turn of events.

As for your parting shot. It's all about you and having to live next door to him, no concern for the woman or the children involved.

Yes he's violent scum (as we now know and we didn't before) and belong in prison, but I wouldn't particularly want you as my neighbour either.

I have read the update.

BUT, just food for thought when we were 19 my ex boyfriend (not ex at the time) and friend (male) had a drunken row outside a club. I was there, I witnessed it. My friend punched my boyfriend 3 times in the face and he just ignored it. On the 4th time he swung around and punched him. He went down. His head smacked the ground hard. Lost consciousness. Ended up in the ambulance with him going to hospital. Had to have an MRI. Thankfully all was fine. This could have been so different. It was the impact of the floor that did the damage. He started it and kept following my boyfriend. If he had of died, then I don't think it would have necessarily been my boyfriends fault but he would have been done for it. He was not a violent person and had never hit anyone in his life before.

Things like this aren't always cut and dry.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Butchyrestingface I see you are as charming and righteous as ever. Your ‘update’ is so tasteless and crass.[/quote]
@RoseRedRoseBlue

I'm still genuinely curious about which update is you're referring to. ¯\(ツ)/¯

@Butchyrestingface are you the OP who had done a name change?

@Givemeabreak88

Why are your children playing with his at the moment anyway? Unless you are not in the U.K.

😂😂😂🙄 there’s always one.

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Butchyrestingface are you the OP who had done a name change?[/quote]
No?

I would be the GOAT of anti sock puppets if I had, because my post on 10th May at 17:09 wasn't exactly supportive of the OP.

"Manslaughter is not outright intentional murder"
Why get caught up in what they were convicted of? Baby P's culprits, like many child killers were never found guilty of murder.
There's a man in the pubs I drink in whose killed two people. Both deliberate, both had children. He wasn't convicted of murder. I won't drink in his company, but others do, probably tell themselves that he wasn't convicted of murder. I can't get past the four children he's left without decent dads. There's another man who helped cover up the murder of his stepmother, by his father. They left the children, all under 10 to find her body. The father is now out of prison as well. He's another one who isn't a convicted murderer. But they've all killed people and left children without a parent.

I wouldn't stop the children playing, but I wouldn't befriend the family.

I'd forgotten that you can do anything on MN except be fat, smoke or have bad grammar.

@Ponoka7

I'd forgotten that you can do anything on MN except be fat, smoke or have bad grammar.

Shit, did he do those things too? OP should have said.

I've changed my mind. JAIL IS TOO GOOD FOR HIM.

@Butchyrestingface in that case, I completely and utterly apologise! I was convinced you were the OP on a name change - I must have misread it.

How nice of the neighbour to inform you about next door. This is one of the reasons I keep mine at arms length. Many cannot wait to inform you with glee about so and so and what they have done. Have you ever felt threatened by this man? Has he in any way threatened you or your family? Did you feel uncomfortable around him and his family BEFORE the neighbour told you what he had done? I would be wary and would be polite and keep perhaps a bit distance. If the children are playing outside and they get on with each other, I see no harm. The children haven't done anything. I would just carry on as normal, but you don't need to be his best friend. As for your other neighbour, make sure you tell them nothing confidential, they seem quite content to go about spreading people's business everywhere. I'd be more wary of them.

Oh gosh, rightly or wrongly I'd be horrified if I found this out about a neighbour!

Do you know if he is with the mother of his children, or is he perhaps just living there until he finds his feet?

[quote RoseRedRoseBlue]@Butchyrestingface in that case, I completely and utterly apologise! I was convinced you were the OP on a name change - I must have misread it.[/quote]
That's okay. .