My new neighbour is a convicted murderer

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Have recently found out from another neighbour further up the street that my new next door neighbour has spent 4 years in prison for man slaughter of another man. I was sceptical so I googled his name. I saw all the newspaper articles about him. He had a fight and killed another man.
Don't know the reasons for the fight but I can't help but wonder if it was one of those cases of a one punch kill. Or maybe he stamped his head?

I am horrified that this man lives next to me. I now don't want my children to mix with his children anymore. I know some will say he's done his time, but imagine if it was your son he killed? It makes me sick to my stomach.

Should someone have notified us in some way about him moving there? Or maybe not as he's done his time and isn't a sex offender.

AIBU or would you be horrified as well? AIBU to tell my children to stay away from the house altogether. (I know it's covid now but I'm thinking in the future)

A relative of mine killed another man. Someone drunk was hassling some young girls on a night bus and it got a bit violent. My relative sat on the drunk man while the bus driver called the police. The drunk man died. My relative lives with that decision and the consequence of it.

Maybe your neighbour is a violent criminal or maybe he isn't. He children definitely aren't though!

YABU

it was manslaughter and for all you know a man started a fight on him and he could of been protecting himself and ended up killing the person

If he was a danger to children, his kids wouldn’t be living with him.

Yes it may make you abit anxious... i.e you probably would feel uncomfortable confronting him about neighbourly issues but he may be perfectly nice

You've said yourself that you don't know the reasons for the fight - you are therefore speculating.

I wouldn't be baking him cookies to welcome him but I sure as shit wouldn't judge him without knowing the facts. And let's face it - you probably never will.
You don't know that he didn't step into a situation where someone was being attacked, a child being hurt, or a million other scenarios.

YABU totally unreasonable, and your post title is misleading. If you have googled the case, as you suggest, you would know the basic facts rather than making vague and dramatic statements.

You think someone should come and tell you about your neighbours criminal convictions?

Where do you draw the line with that?

Well I certainly wouldn’t get into an argument over parking, etc with him. Hopefully he’s learnt a lesson.

Sent you a PM op

He is not a convicted murderer.
You have no idea as to the circumstances, it’s all speculation.

I think it’s natural to feel perturbed by this information, it’s unsettling to know that someone capable of taking another life is in your midst, but try to remain rational. I’d not be inviting him over for tea, but I wouldn’t be moving away either.

There would be certain circumstances where I guess many people could imagine committing manslaughter yet still have regard for human life. But your mind seems made up OP and I guess the best thing you can do is ensure that you have regard for his children's lives and just leave it well alone, eh?

I saw this happen once. In a pub. Two men arguing giving as good as they both got. They started fighting one worse than the other. The other man retaliated and the other man fell to the ground.

It was horrific,he died. I would not say either of the men were ' murderers' nobody at that moment wanted to kill. Emotions were heightened. Sadly I would say the man who died behaved worse. The other man went to prison. Just an awful story of a night out gone wrong. One punch.

I guess my point is. It's not exactly the same as pre med though I understand the loss of life is the same.

He's not a convicted murderer.

Shunning his children would be a repugnant thing to do.

Rehabilitating people becomes impossible when others behave like you.

Personally, I would rather live in a society that values rehabilitation over revenge.

I listened to a radio interview with a late teenage male who had killed someone by punching them once in the head while drunk. It was heart wrenching. He made a mistake, a hideous mistake that he greatly regretted. He served his sentence and while in prison publicised what had happened in the hope that it wouldn’t happen to anyone else, left prison and went to university and now works to try and stop mindless violence.

Awful things happen and very few people are beyond forgiveness.

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far.

It happened to someone I went to school with. A drunk guy thought he "looked at him the wrong way" and punched him. School mate punched him back, drunk guy fell over, hit his head and died. From what I remember, school mate never got into a fight or any bother at school, he was quite quiet,

it would say in the court report what happened wont it

anyway your title is misleading

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far

Not true, you yourself mentioned the one punch thing. If he’s hit someone once and that person died, how is that lack of regard for human life. You have clearly stated you don’t know the facts. Maybe the fight was him defending himself in an attack, maybe he was defending someone else, maybe the person he killed had rapped his sister. Maybe he use to be a thug and now he’s changed his life around, it happens but at the end of the day your judging someone for something you don’t know anything about. You were obviously fine with him before you knew as you let your children play with his. And it’s never ok to punish the children for the sins of the father!

In stead of speculating, ask him. Be honest and say, look I hear you were convicted of manslaughter (not murder!) and it’s really freaked me out. I know it’s none of my business (because it isn’t), but can you please tell me the facts to put my mind at ease.

As for being notified you don’t need to be notified as again, it’s none of your business.

I worked somewhere where a man had attacked someone who abused him as a child.
I'm not commenting of weather I agree or disagree with this....but one punch, a slip and a head hitting the floor could easily end in manslaughter....

The evil bastard who murdered my dd lived in the same street as my sister.

The circumstances you describe wouldn't bother me personally.
His children are innocent please don't label them.

Don’t get into a fight with him and you should be ok

Joking aside OP you don’t know if it was a one off mistake or he had a history of violence. Someone I knew died from one punch thrown by a friend of his, his family were devastated but knew that it could easily have been him that threw the punch that killed. Be wary but don’t panic

Listen I don't want to give out specifics as it will out the area I live in. Stop saying he was protecting a kid or a woman or what not. It was two men fighting outside a pub. He's not a nice man. This is what led to to the conversation with my other neighbour. She told me about him as she knows the mother of his kids very well.
He has a temper is what she told me and then said about him just getting out of prison a few months ago. He moved in next door 6 weeks ago.

Kids can play outside with other kids. I stated in my OP that I was thinking to the future as the neighbourhood children have always played together prior to covid restrictions. In and out of houses and gardens etc.

I don't believe that any of you would be happy about this. Imagine if it was your son he killed. The kids are in their mothers care. It is her house. He lives there as well but the house is in her name. I know this as other neighbour has known his partner for years before she even moved to our street.
Perhaps other neighbour shouldn't have told me all of this, but it came from me asking her about him as I felt he was weird or something. Gave me a weird feeling. Turns out I was right. Something was off about him. He killed someone and that is a fact.

@marshflamingo I stand with you. In fact I would rather live next door to this man than the OP.

All these pretending they wouldn’t be bothered of course they would

And yes I would be bothered

Best that we don’t know who loves close to us as there are many people living in the community who are dangerous

He's obviously got no regard for human life that's for sure. You don't just die from a fight unless one persons takes it too far.

That is extremely simplistic and entirely untrue, sometimes tragic accidents happen where someone ends up losing their lives. That is the point of a manslaughter conviction- the law acknowledges that nobody went out with the intention of killing another person but that it was a consequence of their action.

My friend's brother went out with a group of friends when they were 18 and got in a drunken shoving match with another group over taxis at the end of the night. Unfortunately he was pushed and fell backwards, hitting his head on the curb causing bleeding on his brain and he died.

The person who shoved him was was another 18 year old that was a school mate of my friends brother and he was convicted of manslaughter. He was absolutely devastated by the consequence of his action - he had no malice in his action and no intention of hurting anyone, it was just a tragic accident as a result of a drunken scuffle that 99 times out of 100 would have ended up with a couple of black eyes at worst.

He has to live with that for the rest of his life b(He tried to commit suicide twice during the first year of his sentence) but he is allowed to get on with his life. Since his conviction he has had a lot of therapy to help him deal with what happened and he is now 34, has married and has two young children and now works for a charity as a speaker at schools and colleges about the consequences of drinking and reckless behaviour.

I'm surprised his name came up when you googled it, I thought there were protections under the rehabilitation of offenders?

Have you seen this?
vimeo.com/207810373

You actually have no idea of the details of his case so to categorically claim “he obviously has no regard for human life” is not an accurate conclusion.
Stay away from him if you want but stop the neighbourhood gossiping.