Davina McCall's tweet

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Davina McCall tweeted that female abduction / murder is extremely rare and that this level of fearmongering isn't good for men's mental health.

I don't understand why she is attempting to shift the narrative back to how men are feeling after yet another woman's life has been brutally ended BY A MAN.

For fuck's sake, Davina, we have a prominent voice this week, a huge platform to raise awareness about how most of us have to make so many micro- and macro-adjustments to allow for men's violence and here you are, putting men's health in the centre of all this.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking she should apologise and remove her tweet?

@luxxlisbon

To be fair the poster did not say women should not be allowed . That’s not what was said .

And yes there was a young lady that disappeared close to where I live early in the morning and has never been found .

But unless things change , women do sadly have to think about their situation more than men .

So think what will help ? Constructive suggestions.

Longer sentences for assaults or even approaching a woman alone ?

What is going to stop this small minority of men that commit theses crimes?

I think Davina is entitled to say what she likes as long as it is legal. But her tweet is highly offensive because she is implying (probably unintentionally) that men's feelings are more important than women's lives.

Very sadly I think this is actually what a lot of people really do think.

Davina should not pipe down . She is entitled to her opinion .

Will also be interesting to hear about the other defendant linked to the case.

"The other suspect, believed to be the suspect's wife, was arrested for aiding and abetting and was released on bail."

To me the only point that matters is that women do not feel safe at night alone.
Statistics are never very reliable, it is too easy to bend them to any point you want to make.

I spent my young years in London and it wasn't safe to walk home alone. Fact.
Women are attaccked by men not be women.
Fact.

It is difficult to make a man understand this fear because as a young woman you are constantly under scrutiny by men "looking" at women.
Being vulnerable makes a person a target.
You know that men are checking you and you kind of get used to it but I never liked it.
It came as a relief to get to middle age and the looking stopped. I don't go out alone any more though I migh tbe safer I am not willing to risk it.
I feel I have spent my life under a curfew so let the Men have a turn!!!

I used to bang on to male friends about this very issue back in the 1980's and I wore Dr. Martens so the I could, 1) run of I had to and 2) fight back if I had to.

and yes I had some scary encounters and a rape.

So awful Gold

Tbh I'm tired of the way feminists depict men this way...I'm actually angry with the feminists of today..stop belittling men!!

@Crystalclair

Should we also now be wary of all police?? Going by your logic on men. Because after all, she was killed by a POLICE man🙄

If you RTFT you'll see we have acknowledged that NAMALT. Lots of times. So many.

However if I was to be assaulted again I would think damn hard about whether to go to the police at all.

@Unsure33

It was not long ago in Europe where it was normal for women always to be chaperoned by other male family members . Brothers , cousins etc.

I always drilled it into my daughters when on a night out always to stick together not leave someone stranded . And I am sure that applies to young men as well . The world is not entirely safe for them either .

But you can not eliminate risk 100% . This does not always happen at night in the dark .

So instead of extreme reactions it is correct to try and educate boys and men how women feel and how to behave on the street .

I remember accidentally putting myself at risk one night by missing my station and ending up at an unmanned station on my own , no mobile phones in those days . I did not make the same mistake again . I did feel terrified .

It seems a possibility in this case that perhaps the fact she was shown an ID card she felt she was safe ?

It’s a very sad case indeed and all we can hope is that some good come out of it but at the moment I am not sure that knee jerk reactions are the right way to go .

I'm not clear what extreme reaction your referring to?

Many people like Davina have been missing the point and therefore playing down the danger all women can face on a daily basis from the wrong types of men.

We're not idiots we know there are decent men out there Davina we don't need you telling us that and taking the focus off the bad ones. Silly response Davina

[quote Unsure33]@luxxlisbon

To be fair the poster did not say women should not be allowed . That’s not what was said .

And yes there was a young lady that disappeared close to where I live early in the morning and has never been found .

But unless things change , women do sadly have to think about their situation more than men .

So think what will help ? Constructive suggestions.

Longer sentences for assaults or even approaching a woman alone ?

What is going to stop this small minority of men that commit theses crimes?[/quote]
She did actually, she said a good friend would never "allow" another woman to walk alone.
Her previous post was talking about this case and specifically how women these days "forget the rules" and are "complacent" then followed it up by stating walking home alone is one of these rules.

"But unless things change , women do sadly have to think about their situation more than men."
What specifically could this woman have done differently? It wasn't a long distance, it wasn't secluded, it wasn't that late, she wasn't drunk or impaired in anyway.

Shes entitled to her opinion but its a dumb one.

This is like saying- why discuss the menopause and its problems for women because men have prostate issues too!

Why discuss racism ever if not all white people are racist?

Why highlight breast cancer - didnt you know that men die of prostate cancer too?

Why should we discuss gender inequality and how she might be earning less than men in her profession because surely, not all men agree so there no point even discussing it- right?

what a fcking idiot.

@Spinachtastegud

Tbh I'm tired of the way feminists depict men this way...I'm actually angry with the feminists of today..stop belittling men!!

I'm tired of -

Bring cat called
Being assaulted
Hearing so many men laugh at rape jokes
Worrying whether my drink will be spiked when out
Hoping my cab driver at the end of a tipsy evening is one of the good ones
Waiting for my BF to text me she's home safe after a night out
Hearing how many women are murdered every week by men
Hearing men get away with murder as she apparently liked rough sex
Hearing my 12 year old tell me what men and older boys say to her when she's walking home from school.

Men, stop hurting women.

@Spinachtastesgud I agree

@tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz

So well said. 100% agree

I am really disappointed with Davina and her view. This is not about men’s feelings, it’s about how a woman should be able to walk home safely at night.
It doesn’t matter if she’s done this to ‘ shock and awe’ or increase her own publicity, it’s the fact that’s she’s done this off the back of that poor woman and that is quite frankly abhorrent.

And can I add all of these things are being done by someone's son, husband, dad or brother.

Yup - someone's husband or dad is asking 12 year olds to "Get their gums round this". Not a big scary bogey man hiding in a bush, someone's darling male relative.

@icanboogieboogiewoogie

I'm quite glad when people tweet shite like that. It shows you who they are. Davina, iirc, also believes that if you don't wear matching underwear your husband is entitled to have an affair.

I remember that interview. 2015. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11640553/Davina-McCall-You-must-keep-your-husband-satisfied-in-the-bedroom.html

"McCall, 47, said she tries to wear lingerie that will please her husband, Matthew Robertson, with whom she recently renewed her wedding vows."

Two years later she "makes heartbreaking confession about ‘traumatic’ divorce from husband of 17 years". www.womanandhome.com/life/news-entertainment/davina-mccall-divorce-husband-344904/

I actually feel a little sorry for Davina. Like all of us she it the sum of her experiences, and many of them were not good. I doubt she'll ever 'get' what's wrong with that tweet. She cetainly didn't seem to yesterday.

www.telegraph.co.uk/goodlife/living/that-full-davina-mccall-interview-i-wear-sexy-lingerie-to-keep-m/

@Spinachtastegud

Tbh I'm tired of the way feminists depict men this way...I'm actually angry with the feminists of today..stop belittling men!!

But feminists aren’t literally hurting men ( or women). Men actually are. Women, each other , whoever.

“Nice” men have done F all about it either have they? Teenagers,youths, middle age, black white, whatever race or religion. It’s a hugely male problem.

So think what will help ? Constructive suggestions

1. Better street lighting. All through the night.
2. Education. Boys standing up to their own individual responsibilities.
3. porn. Crack down on it and the rough sex depicted. 4)Women's spaces remaining just that. For women only.
4. victims of assault not treated like criminals. That they asked for it somehow because of clothes, behaviour etc.
5. harsher punishments for the perpetrators.

To start with anyway.

@Spinachtastegud

Tbh I'm tired of the way feminists depict men this way...I'm actually angry with the feminists of today..stop belittling men!!

How about men stop assaulting us ? Then we wouldn’t need to “belittle” them. I don’t have one single female friend who has no experience of harassment or assault by men. It really isn’t a tiny percentage of men who behave like this.

Tbh I'm tired of the way feminists depict men this way...I'm actually angry with the feminists of today..stop belittling men

Should women continue to shut up and put up them. Because otherwise we're belittling men, who are the perpetrators generally. My feelings were far bigger than simply feeling belittled when I was raped by a man. But no, we must think of the men, who feel belittled. Put aside our own fear, comfort and safety.

Men are more likely to be murdered than women. 77% of murder victims are men. Men and women are both at risk of attacks but men even more so. But it’s nearly always men who do the killing.

@FortunesFave

Apparently ONE woman is killed in the UK by a man every three days.

Some of those must be by people who know them by stats but some must be strangers.

So why has THIS case caught the attention of the media and public so much?

Maybe because women have just had enough. Maybe it is the situation rather than the age, race or look of the victim.