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To think Harry threw Meghan to the lions

436 replies

Arielsvoice · 09/03/2021 16:00

OK apologies its another thread on this but hear me out

So I've watched the interview and I think Harry actually comes off looking much worse and that Meghan is actually suffering because he's a pretty shit partner.

On watching it and if you take what she says at face value:

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Why didn't he warn her what happened to his mother if she was that unaware?

Why didn't he arrange mental health support given he's had a therapist on speed dial for years?

Why didn't he stand up against Kate if she made Meghan cry?

Why have another child if he knows that there won't be any security for Archie?

Why not sort out a realistic plan to support himself before leaving rather than making knee jerk reactions which put his wife and child at risk?

So many questions that actually make Harry look like a pretty shit husband. To me he seems to be the one that is responsible for putting Meghan into the situation she's in now and then to make himself look better throws his family under the bus rather than take responsibility.

YANBU - Harry needs to take some responsibility for Meghan's experiences

YABU - he is not to blame for what happened to her.

OP posts:
Hankunamatata · 09/03/2021 18:50

@GrimDamnFanjo
That's one of the most perceptive takes Iv read.

ClarkeGriffin · 09/03/2021 18:55

If she's actually trying to claim that she knew nothing about Royal life, she's a complete moron then. Anyone believing that tripe is also the same I'm afraid. You've got to be pretty dense to not realise, it's pretty obvious. The life sucks. The only benefit is the money, other than that it's shit. And the money is kind of shit too because if you spend it, you get torn to shreds.

It's a shit life, completely in the public eye. But she knew that, hence why she married him. She wanted that. She wants the fame, hence why they aren't staying quiet or private. Wake up guys it's obvious. She'll divorce him in a few years once he's served his purpose.

hansgrueber · 09/03/2021 18:55

@NeedanIdea

I think he has been a supportive husband but perhaps didn't think of it from her perspective in the early days. They have advisers for everything, perhaps he thought that M would be advised by others and just 'pick it up'. Also he's been wanting a way out for a while so perhaps was focused on that rather than seeing how it must have been for her coming in.
I think she probably was advised both by Harry and by the Palace but one has to listen for it to be effective and that didn't fit her agenda.
Aspiringmatriarch · 09/03/2021 18:56

I think he's done his level best to be a supportive husband, to the point where he actually stood up to the institution which has been his entire life to get her away from a situation which was causing her misery. He may not have handled every single thing perfectly but I think he's done a pretty good job tbh.

Justcallmebebes · 09/03/2021 18:58

I think they're both batshit and deserve each other and if you believe Meghan knew nothing of Diana and the RF then you're as deluded as they are

VladmirsPoutine · 09/03/2021 18:58

The threads on Meghan here are increasingly becoming all very piers morgan-esque. It's actually very creepy on a forum such as this but oddly enough to be expected on a forum like this too,

cardibach · 09/03/2021 19:00

@eddiemairswife

I think Harry needs to sort himself out and find something he likes, to devote his energies to. He doesn't seem to have any interests outside his immediate family and bemoaning his raw deal in life. His father has his organic gardening and farming; his aunt has her horses; his uncle has philandering with young women!! Surely, an education at a renowned public school should have given him something, or would the local comp have been better for him?
Have you forgotten he was a soldier, and a very good one by all accounts. The press scuppered that for him, if you remember. Then he started the Invictus games to help disabled servicemen...
Sparklingbrook · 09/03/2021 19:01

@VladmirsPoutine

The threads on Meghan here are increasingly becoming all very piers morgan-esque. It's actually very creepy on a forum such as this but oddly enough to be expected on a forum like this too,
OP hasn't even returned. Hmm
Theunamedcat · 09/03/2021 19:02

I thibktbis thread has only one deleted post on it? So nothing like piers who has quit his job over this

Aspiringmatriarch · 09/03/2021 19:04

@ClarkeGriffin

If she's actually trying to claim that she knew nothing about Royal life, she's a complete moron then. Anyone believing that tripe is also the same I'm afraid. You've got to be pretty dense to not realise, it's pretty obvious. The life sucks. The only benefit is the money, other than that it's shit. And the money is kind of shit too because if you spend it, you get torn to shreds.

It's a shit life, completely in the public eye. But she knew that, hence why she married him. She wanted that. She wants the fame, hence why they aren't staying quiet or private. Wake up guys it's obvious. She'll divorce him in a few years once he's served his purpose.

But what would she have really known? I've grown up in the UK and I still wouldn't know what to expect.

Also the constant harping about them wanting privacy but not 'staying quiet'/ slinking away to tend elephants in Africa is getting bloody annoying. They're allowed to not want to be harassed, demeaned and intruded on whilst still having and maintaining a public profile.

And I don't believe she was disingenuous in what she said about not knowing, of course she was familiar with a superficial view of the outside bits of royal life but that is a hugely different matter to, for example, realising that this is a family who literally have a pecking order over who curtseys to whom while in private.

shamalidacdak · 09/03/2021 19:07

Because he's thick as mince

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 09/03/2021 19:10

I thought the same OP.. why did he not do any of those things if he was afraid of history repeating itself.
It would be hard enough for a British wife knowing the full history of the monarchy, but he should have made damn sure she was aware of what marrying him involved.

ClarkeGriffin · 09/03/2021 19:14

But what would she have really known? I've grown up in the UK and I still wouldn't know what to expect.

Have you been living under a rock? Confused

They are constantly in the public eye. Someone that high up, not like zara level, has their days pretty much planned for them. What they wear is scrutinised and the Queen gets final say basically. You don't get to keep your hobbies anymore for the most part. You get stalked. You get threatened. You're guarded day and night. Totally shit life.

She knew all of that. How you didn't surprises me, but whatever. She however did know. She's in showbiz or was, and will be again. She knew this, she's not as naive and sweet as she wants you to think.

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 09/03/2021 19:18

I don't get why if they wanted privacy they moved to LA.
If you resign from your job you don't get paid and lose the perks and privileges.
MM was delusional to think they could 'step back' and be part time like some of the others and live in Royal properties and pick and choose when they wanted to work. I think she was referring to some of the older generation royals.. .. who worked in their day and perhaps Anne's kids and the York sisters. All these younger ones work, they have jobs and probably an allowance from their parents. PC would not agree to fund them as they would not have been able to fund themselves in any way. Not like they could go get a job is it. There's enough disgruntled British that don't like the RF costing the taxpayer could you imagine the uproar at supporting a family that does not even work or give anything in return.

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 09/03/2021 19:22

And living on the other side of the world...

Allington · 09/03/2021 19:22

They're allowed to not want to be harassed, demeaned and intruded on whilst still having and maintaining a public profile.

But why should they have a public profile? What have they done to get that apart from being part of the RF? They have no apparent expertise on the topics they want to talk about. The only interest in what they have to say comes because H was born into the RF.

LalalalalalaLand123 · 09/03/2021 19:32

They're as stupid and toxic as each other.

Orangebitters · 09/03/2021 19:36

Completely agree! I ended that interview thinking - what on Earth does she see in him?

He came across angry, bitter & entitled. Almost jumping out of his chair to attack his family, & he interrupted Megan & Oprah several times. I thought at times she came across sympathetic, but him- not at all.

He seems to have a lot of resentment and rage towards his family. I wonder how much of it was there a long time before Megan. I’m pleased we can see the ‘evil woman stealing man away from his family’ narrative is false!

Orangebitters · 09/03/2021 19:38

@Allington

They're allowed to not want to be harassed, demeaned and intruded on whilst still having and maintaining a public profile.

But why should they have a public profile? What have they done to get that apart from being part of the RF? They have no apparent expertise on the topics they want to talk about. The only interest in what they have to say comes because H was born into the RF.

This is a good point though. I’m not sure why exactly they think their ‘voice’ on social issues etc is so important. They aren’t exactly UN ambassadors or charity bosses.
NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 09/03/2021 19:40

Amazed this thread has lasted nearly 4 hours

Deadringer · 09/03/2021 19:41

Harry has always been a complete twat.

GreenlandTheMovie · 09/03/2021 19:44

I don't like Harry and he seems to have nothing to do with his life other than being royal, and now ex royal. No talents, few qualifications, no ideas of his own, no hobbies. He would be basic cannon fodder army material without the trappings of royalty.

Surely Meghan must have been attracted by the fame and wealth though to go for such a man living such a life?

Butteredtoast55 · 09/03/2021 19:45

One thing I find interesting is the time they spent in Botswana. I seem to remember them saying how important it was to be away from everything else to see if it could work out between them. Did it not ring some alarm bells that the only place they could go to escape public pressure was on a secret safari to the middle of Africa?

VladmirsPoutine · 09/03/2021 19:55

But why should they have a public profile? What have they done to get that apart from being part of the RF? They have no apparent expertise on the topics they want to talk about. The only interest in what they have to say comes because H was born into the RF.

If you were to expel anyone who hadn't done anything of worth from having a public profile then entertainment and news as we see it today would only consist of weather reports.

VladmirsPoutine · 09/03/2021 19:58

who worked in their day and perhaps Anne's kids and the York sisters. All these younger ones work, they have jobs

I too used to be absolutely shattered from my days spent at ribbon cutting ceremonies and smiling at cakes at the parish fête. I needed a holiday to recover from that time I spent 15mins waving to and shaking hands with some people from a charity or something.