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To think Harry threw Meghan to the lions

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Arielsvoice · 09/03/2021 16:00

OK apologies its another thread on this but hear me out

So I've watched the interview and I think Harry actually comes off looking much worse and that Meghan is actually suffering because he's a pretty shit partner.

On watching it and if you take what she says at face value:

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Why didn't he warn her what happened to his mother if she was that unaware?

Why didn't he arrange mental health support given he's had a therapist on speed dial for years?

Why didn't he stand up against Kate if she made Meghan cry?

Why have another child if he knows that there won't be any security for Archie?

Why not sort out a realistic plan to support himself before leaving rather than making knee jerk reactions which put his wife and child at risk?

So many questions that actually make Harry look like a pretty shit husband. To me he seems to be the one that is responsible for putting Meghan into the situation she's in now and then to make himself look better throws his family under the bus rather than take responsibility.

YANBU - Harry needs to take some responsibility for Meghan's experiences

YABU - he is not to blame for what happened to her.

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Allington · 16/03/2021 15:40

Well, yes. What would 'productive' look like?

the80sweregreat · 16/03/2021 15:51

The likes of Prince Charles and William ought to be careful though
There are two more hours of this interview in the can. What else do they know or prepared to go on air? Especially if the bullying claims and investigations into all that become nasty.

Bythemillpond · 16/03/2021 16:04

Not seen the interview but have bits and pieces about it.
I did see an article about Meghan and her mum not being able to pop into Windsor to get a coffee.
I feel really sorry for Meghan but more in a way of why did she think she would have been allowed to do that. Why did it come as such a shock to her that she couldn’t.
Marrying into the Royal family comes with certain restrictions and expectations and either it wasn’t properly explained to her or she thought they wouldn’t apply to her but a lot of the bits and pieces I have seen my first thoughts have been, what did she expect?
I think Kate did think a lot of what was expected of her and the restrictive lifestyle and had more of an idea of what she was getting herself into whilst I think Meghan being American I think there was almost a romantic notion that didn’t match the reality

Who would honestly be over the moon if their dc actually married into the Royal family. It is a traditional family whose traditions are centuries old

RubyViolet · 16/03/2021 16:05

Reporting private conversations to friends in order be repeated on TV is not a good look, whoever your family is.
Don’t they want to fix their relationship with the family ? Because it is beginning to look like they are burning their bridges purposely.
Anyone in business with them, or their A list friends will be watching their backs now. It sounds like they keep all correspondence as future ammunition.
It would be awful if they record family conversations.

the80sweregreat · 16/03/2021 16:31

Kate had a more structured life , mum and dad, private schools , discipline and siblings she appears to like and get on with.
Meghan's was much more fractured. She clearly loved her dad, but she boomeranged more between her parents and had half siblings she didn't always get along with. It was probably less restricted than Kate's upbringing was.
Kate can probably deal with the Royal way of doing things , accepts it. Meghan just found it harder, she is more of a free spirit.
I think it's sad it's come to this, but maybe Harry wanted out and she just gave him the courage to just do it. Dissing the in-laws isn't a good move though! There were ways around this , but they didn't handle it that well.
Harry's family are probably hard to get on with too.
They should have gone to mediation first maybe? .. who knows.
I do think that setting fire to your bridges isn't a good idea , but Meghan had nothing to lose here. For Harry there isn't any way back now really.
I can't see it ending well :(

Butteredtoast55 · 16/03/2021 17:47

I think it's really interesting to read back over the engagement interview transcript. They clearly discussed a lot of the things that would change for her and for them. As I said in a previous post, I find it hard to believe that it didn't dawn on her that privacy might be an issue when they had to go to Botswana to be alone, camping out away from any intrusion.
They describe the whole family as being welcoming (Meghan also said in the Oprah interview that she had been made welcome) and William and Catherine being wonderful and amazing and giving them fantastic support.

abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/full-transcript-prince-harry-meghan-markles-engagement-interview/story?id=51415779

If they keep leaking comments about discussions being 'unproductive' (i.e. they didn't get what they want), people will gradually lose their sympathy for them, and maybe realise why Prince Charles might have been avoiding H's calls.

Lauren15 · 16/03/2021 18:53

So Meghan and her mum can’t go out for coffee in Windsor but Kate can go to the Range? Hmmm.

Bythemillpond · 16/03/2021 19:03

So Meghan and her mum can’t go out for coffee in Windsor but Kate can go to the Range? Hmmm

Even I can see the difference.
One was walking around a department store in Kings Lynn in December the other is sitting in Costa (or some other coffee shop) in the middle of Windsor surrounded by tourists.

Lauren15 · 16/03/2021 19:28

Pretty sure H and W were seen walking around Windsor when they were at Eaton, going to McDonald’s etc.
I wouldn’t wish Costa in Windsor town centre on M. It’s a dump.

Savethewhales · 17/03/2021 20:24

@Lndnmummy

Meghan was thrown to the lions by the royal family and appealingly treated by the racist British press. I don’t understand why there is this indignant outcry about racist people being called out for what they are. White supremacy and privilege in the highest order and the failure of people to recognise it for what it is would be laughable if it wasn’t for the hundreds of thousands of people of colour feeling and living with systemic racism every single day. White people denying people of colour their experience and their truth is by far the ugliest trait of the British people.
Meghan is less than a quarter black, she is using what little colour she has to further her career, she does not care for others regardless of their skin tone. She wants to be a mouthpiece for something she isn't even a bit player in. You want equality yet you sympathise for a woman who has identified herself solely as white to further her career long before Harry, the royals and Oprah came along, then shame on you! You'd be best putting your efforts in raising awareness for every, boy, girl, man and woman who has genuinely suffered racism rather than that Pinocchio princess that states she's hard done by. Tell us has she travelled to East london and got amongst the locals? She went to Africa to a place suffering all sorts of horrible conditions and the only thing she could muster yo was nobody asked me if I was ok Think about that for a moment?
GreenlandTheMovie · 17/03/2021 21:54

Ldnmummy Meghan was thrown to the lions by the royal family and appealingly treated by the racist British press.

She's a near 40 year old who spent 18 months in a job she didn't enjoy. Just how traumatised can she be coming up for 2 years of luxury living later?

This is more about making money to keep the pair of them in the style they think they deserve. There is literally no personal or family experience they won't exploit or sell to the media.

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