To think Harry threw Meghan to the lions

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OK apologies its another thread on this but hear me out

So I've watched the interview and I think Harry actually comes off looking much worse and that Meghan is actually suffering because he's a pretty shit partner.

On watching it and if you take what she says at face value:

Why didn't he tell her what it was all about given that she said she didn't know anything about the royals?

Why didn't he warn her what happened to his mother if she was that unaware?

Why didn't he arrange mental health support given he's had a therapist on speed dial for years?

Why didn't he stand up against Kate if she made Meghan cry?

Why have another child if he knows that there won't be any security for Archie?

Why not sort out a realistic plan to support himself before leaving rather than making knee jerk reactions which put his wife and child at risk?

So many questions that actually make Harry look like a pretty shit husband. To me he seems to be the one that is responsible for putting Meghan into the situation she's in now and then to make himself look better throws his family under the bus rather than take responsibility.

YANBU - Harry needs to take some responsibility for Meghan's experiences

YABU - he is not to blame for what happened to her.

@Shelby2010

Apparently they didn’t get paid for the interview? If that’s true, then what was the point?

When they decided to ‘step back’ from the RF, my limited interest was to wish them well. Just get on with raising your children & be happy. All this drama is so pointless & Jeremy Kyle.

As far as Archie not being a Prince, well neither are Princess Anne’s or Prince Edward’s children. And if they expect to live in a different country but still be funded by the British tax payer, well think again! There would have been a massive uproar.

No one has come out of this well, but everyone seems pleased to have something to talk about that isn’t Covid or Brexit, so maybe it was a carefully planned public service.

Oh how humble of them. 😴

@Ijustknowitstimetogo

Just say you dislike her and keep it moving. You're in the majority.

I don’t particularly dislike her. She’s very beautiful. Facially.

She just seems to be a delusional narcissist who thought she would be able to call the shots and didn’t want to spend the rest of her life looking at William and Kate’s backs.

I believe her about her mental health and suicidal thoughts.

Do you usually decide whether you like someone based on their looks?

Nasty.

She was very careful in how she worded things, allowing for, even inviting ambiguity. Little nods to Oprah's leading questions and horrified expressions.

@VladmirsPoutine

Strange how little she knew about the royal family.

At 15 I visited The Palace of Versailles and have a pics from it with my family. I'm now over twice that age and aren't very familiar with the ins and outs of the French revolution. It's a tourist spot.

She was upset with the press coverage, yet at the same time said she doesn’t read any of it.

She literally said that her friends and family would call her expressing a lot of worry and concern about the coverage. She said she tried to avoid reading too much of it owing to how on the edge she was.

Your post is totally disingenuous. Just say you dislike her and keep it moving. You're in the majority.

She also watched Diana's wedding, so press reports say. The RF was often in the news post the Wales' divorce in 1996 (separation in 1992) and Diana's death in 1997. Respectfully there's no analogy re: your visting Versailles and not knowing too much about the French revolution - it's not 'news' - it's history.

@BellamyBells

I honestly still don't get where all the vile stuff is coming from? It's so bizarre. The media have done so well to turn people against her. It's unreal!

The thing is, most of what they say is totally unverifiable by the general public. We'll never know who made who cry or what was really said about Meghan's mental health.

But out of the things we CAN verify - what were the reasons for not giving Archie a title, which is the real wedding date etc - they've been proven to be talking out of their arses every time. Which doesn't bode well for the rest of it being the truth....?

Hmmmm...I think shes a very shrewd operator....here's my film.script ..I said elsewhere that if she'd met Harry at a toffs party and he was a Foxtons estate agent in Fulham she wouldnt have given him a second glance...she was like a shark in water smelling blood ...he was and is a very troubled and damaged man and she could easily fed him the flattery and concern to feed his victim complex and present herself as the only one who understood his pain .
Then it would gradually be "you and me against the world Harry " until he was dependent on her whilst white knighting at any slight against her ..and now the interview is classic DARVO ..
But then again I could be totally wrong and they could be just totally misunderstood refugees from a tyrannical institution..maybe..

Harry's poor me routine is tiresome.

@shouldistop

Harry's poor me routine is tiresome.

His mother was killed murdered.

Poor me?!

Does Diana's tragic death give him a get out of jail card for any behaviour? Do we excuse others' behaviour on the basis of losing a parent young?

And that means he can be an entitled twat for the rest of his life?

@Gadzookery

Does Diana's tragic death give him a get out of jail card for any behaviour? Do we excuse others' behaviour on the basis of losing a parent young?

Most people haven't had a parent chased to their death though have they in front of the world.

Also, yes I would show compassion.

That aside....what has harry done?

Every right minded person would show compassion.

It still doesn't mean that he is entitled to act how he has.

@VladmirsPoutine

Well, no one knows that because you didn’t.

How do you know they didn't

The threads on Meghan here are frankly unhinged. Really to the point its pathological.

How do I know they didn’t get married three days before the televised wedding? Well, its since been clarified that they didn’t for a start. Secondly, in that interview they both said that whatever took place three days before was just the three of them, (them plus the Archbishop), so no witnesses. It’s not possible that that was their wedding. It’s sounds like a blessing type thing.

During her pregnancy checkups wouldn’t they have accessed her mental health. I thought they were really hot on this these days.
Her Mum was a mental health social worker and Harry.... well what was he doing ?

I thought it was bad when they were due to go to the event but she was pregnant and struggling so he told her to stay home and she said that she couldn't be left alone, so she had to go. He should have cancelled and stayed home with her, surely? And when he said that he didn't ask anyone for help because he was embarrassed! Not really the priority when your wife's suicidal.

He's been afforded the very best of everything in life and all he can do is complain on tv during a pandemic killing millions, with millions more losing their livelihoods. It's so distasteful.
There's absolutely no need for this interview except to stroke their egos. Pathetic.

There's been a lot shared on Social media about H being the ideal husband as he took his wife out of a toxic environment etc etc
However I felt quite differently, when he was asked what did he do when M told him about her suicidal thoughts, he said he did nothing, he said he didn't speak to anyone about nor ask for help for her as it's 'just not spoken about'
What if during that time when she was at her lowest, she harmed herself, he would have been responsible as at the time he did nothing, it's very serious when your spouse tells you they are having suicidal thoughts. So not exactly getting husband of the year from me.
At the end he did what most husbands do to keep the marriage going, go along with the wife's wishes for peace sake.

@shouldistop

And that means he can be an entitled twat for the rest of his life?

In what way is he an entitled twat?

@shouldistop

He's been afforded the very best of everything in life and all he can do is complain on tv during a pandemic killing millions, with millions more losing their livelihoods. It's so distasteful. There's absolutely no need for this interview except to stroke their egos. Pathetic.

Best of everything in life.

Lost his mother publicly at a young age.

People have spent their lives mocking who his father is

Never wanted to be a royal and wanted to join the army and couldn't.

It is this sort of compassion less attitude that causes the problem. Having money does not make you immune to being vulnerable.

I doubt talking on TV about his baby's skin colour is stroking his ego.

@diagold4u

There's been a lot shared on Social media about H being the ideal husband as he took his wife out of a toxic environment etc etc However I felt quite differently, when he was asked what did he do when M told him about her suicidal thoughts, he said he did nothing, he said he didn't speak to anyone about nor ask for help for her as it's 'just not spoken about' What if during that time when she was at her lowest, she harmed herself, he would have been responsible as at the time he did nothing, it's very serious when your spouse tells you they are having suicidal thoughts. So not exactly getting husband of the year from me. At the end he did what most husbands do to keep the marriage going, go along with the wife's wishes for peace sake.

No, regardless of Meghan's actions he would not be responsible for her actions.

Please don't pedal such a disgusting comment.

@RootyT00t of course he would be responsible, he knew how she felt and didn't seek help for his wife, he would be responsible very much in the sense of guilt!! Do you know how much courage it takes to admit something like that

Op I thought you were going to say he threw her under the bus when he said "I didn't know I was trapped before I met Meghan". I don't know whether it was calculated on his behalf but it allows him to craft a narrative in future, should be want to, that he was led by her, although he's patently been unhappy for a while.

She just seems to be a delusional narcissist who thought she would be able to call the shots and didn’t want to spend the rest of her life looking at William and Kate’s backs.

'Delusional narcissist' is an utterly unfounded and disgusting thing to say! Honestly why all this hate? She is the antithesis of what I presume a lot of people would regard as 'royal'. For a start her parents aren't cousins and she seems to have healthy teeth and at least one shower a day. All that aside if I came from LA and had done the Hollywood thing I wouldn't want to spend my life smiling and waving walking behind Kate and William either at some rainy county fayre making flat jokes about whether it's jam before cream or cream before jam. I mean how many church cake sales can I possibly tolerate before I totally lose it!

@EineReiseDurchDieZeit

I was very pro Meghan prior to this, not anymore. I thought she in particular came across badly but Harry did also for blatantly giving her no information about expectations.

It felt very clear to me that the toys were thrown out of the pram by her over the Prince and Princess titles and its THAT simple.

The decision that such titles would not extend to cousins to the throne was taken by Charles when Harry was still at Eton (I think) because of negativity around Beatrice and Eugenie and Andrew's unreasonable demands regarding them.

Megan is spoiled and entitled
Harry is thick, spoiled and entitled.

They both want EVERYTHING their way

They can both fuck off

And I hope an Official Statement eviscerates them on the Prince/Princess matter.

When Charles becomes King, all his grandchildren become Prince/Princess. That's the convention. Simple as that. The Institution were allegedly trying to alter that so that Archie would not get that title. That's blatant racism in action. This runs through the male lines only so it's why Zara and Peter Philips are not titled Princess/Prince but Eugenie and Beatrice are both Princesses. Archie and any sibling should have the same right to a title that Eugenie and Beatrice have. Simple as that.

Obviously no one should be exposed to these vile, ridiculous constant headlines by the tabloids to the level Meghan was. Simply awful. No one should be exposed to racist remarks and everyone should get mental health support when they need it.

Having said all that there were a couple of points in the interview I wish Oprah could have asked a few more detailed questions on. In the absence of more detail I find some parts of the interview hard to believe, like:

Not knowing what she was getting in to - really? At her age - ie not being a naive 19 year old? With everything Diana - the mother of Harry - went through so well documented in the public domain? There's so much information out there and she didn't know?

Harry not challenging the racist remarks at the time. Surely the first thing you do when a family member sprouts some racist BS about your unborn child's skin colour is to challenge them there & then. Tell them this is racist, that you don't want to hear this tosh from them ever again and ask them in no uncertain terms to apologise. Why didn't he do this but instead calls them out in front of a global audience years later?

Denial of mental health support. I find this hard to believe. Not necessarily that if you tell palace courtiers that you want to check into some kind of institution and they point out it might not look good and get more press attention and privacy intrusion - I can believe that but if you are pregnant and feel suicidal surely you could ask your midwive or doctor for help. Any medical professional would have to take this extremely seriously and offer help. I am sure you would at the very least be investigated by your professional body if it turned out a pregnant woman in your care told you she was suicidal and you didn't do anything. Especially such a high profile patient such as Meghan.

So all this is very strange and sadly not enough probing from Oprah.

Overall I think the monarchy should be abolished once the current Queen sadly passes. All the money saved on propping up a clearly dysfunctional family who believe it's their right given by god to reign - can help to rebuild the country and the economy after the covid crisis is over. By god will we need the cash.