To think DH is being a dick with the pram?

[Sheeeeeep]

Ffs.

Dd 4 months. Sod all to do at weekends other than go for walks.

We have a baby carrier but DH is obsessed with the pram and insists on putting the poor child in it trudging through thick mud, clambering up mountains and hills and clattering over bumpy gravelly roads.

My nice pram is covered in mud and people look at us like we are batshit.

AIBU?

Virtually any hiking trail will have good-sized sections (if not the whole thing) that can’t accommodate the width of a pram, or where vertical climbing is required, and/or where large roots/rocks would stop a standard pram in its tracks. If it is physically possible to push a pram with only brief periods of carrying then you aren’t doing the types of trails where it would be unsafe. A soft-sided baby carrier would be at best equally safe to a pram and quite possibly less so.

Now if your DH automatically expects you to take care of any messes or damage he causes to your home, car, or on shared possessions, you have a DH problem. But as long as he’s being careful there’s nothing unreasonable about pushing a pram where a pram can be pushed. And I promise people are not staring at you because of your unusual pram use.

Why is someone more likely to slip when using a sling than a) without one or b) with a pram (in which case the pram could roll down the mountain and/or tip the baby out)?

The pram has a wrist strap and the baby should be strapped in so how is it going to roll down the mountain or tip the baby out?

That should say virtually any ”serious” hiking trail

Why are you going on these hikes if you don't know where you are heading out to? It is one thing heading out for an unplanned walk round a local park but heading out to moorland or up a mountain without a plan is just madness.

I am poorly co-ordinated and used a sling for 4.5 years (over all kinds of terrain) and never fell over. And I run a sling library and don't know of any babywearing friends or service users who have fallen over while using their sling.

I've fallen over while wearing a sling, it actually probably stopped the baby from being dropped, so I certainly would never denigrate using a sling. I didn't say people were generally more likely to fall over while wearing a sling. But on slippery territory of course people are more likely to slip generally! I've fallen numerous times walking in muddly slippery terrain. I would not have been so lucky if I had the baby in a sling.

People should use buggies correctly. Use the wrist strap. NOT take any child on the sort of uneven terrain where a buggy could actually fall off anything. Same with any child really. It's not appropriate.

Whereas I've seen several pram users fall over on the street (and helped them up/caught the pram), usually when there were uneven paving slabs etc they couldn't see because the pram was in the way!

Firstly, I don't know where you are that these women are just falling all over the place! This seems to be the sort of rhetoric that put me off "sling people" when I was first interested in using a sling. But people don't tend to watch the ground for uneven pavement at the best of times. And I don't know about you but unless you have a 2D baby, you can't actually see the pavement underneath them. So that's a bit nonsense isn't it? You see the pavement coming as a pram user because you look out for crossing points etc ahead of the time and look down naturally.

You can be pro sling and be sensible too.

Laughing at all the people in here who have climbed a mountain while pushing a pram .

We often went for hikes (up mountains, not in parks) when DC were babies and always used a sling. Mind you my DH loved carrying DC in a sling - he preferred it to the pram even when out and about. As others have said OP, either he cleans the pram (and takes his car) or you take the sling.

@JustLyra

Why is someone more likely to slip when using a sling than a) without one or b) with a pram (in which case the pram could roll down the mountain and/or tip the baby out)?

The pram has a wrist strap and the baby should be strapped in so how is it going to roll down the mountain or tip the baby out?

Prams are heavy and babies in bassinets are not strapped in- at 4m not sure which baby is. The pram rolling would tug someone off balance easily jsut because it’s on their wrist, but also lots of the wrist straps are just loops - they’d slip off, there’s no way they are actually tested to catch the weight and not slip in a lopped around someone’s wrist scenario. At 4m baby is too small for the hiking carrier someone linked, we have one but use the usual closer hugging carriers at that age.

Phew, @RandomMess, no I wasn’t hallucinating after all! Laiste definitely mentioned a “three wheel jobbie” on the first page of this thread. So relieved I hadn’t made it up. And still chuckling at the thought of fitting wheels to a turd and pushing it round a park...!

You sound so highly strung OP!

@Babdoc I misunderstood I thought you meant the op had mentioned them 😂😂😂😂😂

Yeah, re babies in bassinets not being strapped in, my friend’s baby fell out of the pram when it was being carried up a flight of concrete steps. Ended up in A&E... Really put me off them - I always used a sling!

Not all pushchairs have a bassinet, I wasn't keen on baby being unrestrained after seeing an accident when I was younger so bought one with a reversible lie flat seat with full 5 point harness.

Laughing as well at a all terrain pram actually working all terrain.

We have a mountain buggy. It’s fantastic over field, off road gravel, sand, hilly path like walks. We use it loads. And it’s filthy. Occasionally gets hosed down.

But actually up the mountains it’s useless. I think people suggesting them for mountains don’t actually mean mountains. Our mountain walks are way too steep, very rarely paths, and too many fallen trees and narrow sections. A sling or carrier is needed

So yes. A pram in a boggy place is probably fine if large 16 inch wheels, but that pram posted is a city pram, good for some gravel. Op is right to suggest a sling.

Prams are heavy and babies in bassinets are not strapped in- at 4m not sure which baby is. The pram rolling would tug someone off balance easily jsut because it’s on their wrist, but also lots of the wrist straps are just loops - they’d slip off, there’s no way they are actually tested to catch the weight and not slip in a lopped around someone’s wrist scenario

Apologies, I’m assuming no-one is stupid enough to take their baby anywhere not strapped in, far less anywhere bumpy. I’ve never had a pram where you couldn’t clip the harness into the carrycot. Even back when I had a “big” pram for my eldest girls you could clip reins into the carrycot.

The wrist straps are effective when used properly. I’ve accidentally tested them twice - once when I slipped on ice and once when an ignorant fucker pushed my pram out the way when I was getting something out my bag and apparently in their way (on a wide path).

Geez, one of the rudest OPs I've ever seen. Knows everything, posts to ask AIBU, but is rude to everyone who disagrees with her or offers well-intentioned advice. Poor old DH.

@LalalalalalaLand123

Geez, one of the rudest OPs I've ever seen. Knows everything, posts to ask AIBU, but is rude to everyone who disagrees with her or offers well-intentioned advice. Poor old DH.

As opposed to this absolute delight of a poster

Go on, find me where I asked for advice.

find me where I asked for advice

Ah the cardinal sin, surely you know the minute that your tiny blastocyst implants into your uterus you are now the receiver of advice and that’s that. Don’t dare decline advice or you’ll be faced with all sort of rage

Carry on with your rudeness OP lol

NO, you didn't ask for advice you asked if your husband was a dick. Were you actually wanted to know if you should LTB? Or is it really a bad thing that people pointed out you have options? I have no idea if your husband is a dick, but if he is you sound well fucking suited.

You sound so lovely

It’s AIBU. I asked if I was being unreasonable . Perhaps hide the board if it makes you that angry? Seriously.

@FTEngineerM

find me where I asked for advice

Ah the cardinal sin, surely you know the minute that your tiny blastocyst implants into your uterus you are now the receiver of advice and that’s that. Don’t dare decline advice or you’ll be faced with all sort of rage

Hardly unsolicited advice when the OP posted on a discussion forum

But then getting angry and upset because I’m not taking it is a bit daft isn’t it, as is giving me a load of abuse for pointing it out!

A load of abuse Aye ok then.

Pointing out your rudeness is not giving you abuse.

I'd be worried he's already damaged the chassis doing that kind of offroading with the type of pram you have...or is about to! Then it'll be you in a fix during the week and the money spent on it really will have been wasted. If you're still using it with the carrycot with baby not strapped in I'd be worried about safety...and the mud on those lovely covers!

Few years beyond buggy stage now but have four kids, had a few different buggies and best was an out n about nipper 3 wheeler. V comfy for baby/toddler, brilliant for both urban use (so light and easily manoeuvrable, narrow enough to fit through standard doorways, detachable basket) and country walks. Easy enough to lift over stiles, fab suspension, huge hood, I bought machine washable fleecy footmuffs to attach to it. Strong chassis though light which could take miles of walking, bumping along without starting to creak!

I’m rooting for your DH!! Poor chap