AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

AIBU?

My DH watches the main news programme and they did have a Meghan letters story on recently. It's not news in our opinion. 🤷 But it's a bit disingenuous to say you can avoid it all by keeping off you tube and even the internet.

He appears to want to control everything said about him. Only positive and nothing negative. He is happy to chat away about his problems with Corden or Oprah but no negatives can be said at all.
The press are only talking about him now because he us generating chat show interviews so obviously craves press attention when it suits

I wouod have respected him if he had said we are leaving we don't want to deal with the press we want to live a quiet life away from the media circus and had ment it but courting the press while complaining about invasion of privacy screams hypocrisy and tantrums over consequences of his own actions (he was told he couldn't keep the patronage if he left the Royal family this was in the press last year its not a suprise) its all so unattractive I've never really seen much in the press about him now its all Harry this Harry that so much for a quiet life

just makes a mockery of the whole reason they chose to step down. It makes it clear that they don't want privacy, they just want only favourable publicity.

They wanted to step away from being working royals. I believe they should have that choice.

All the picking holes in what they do after that is rather silly. They were never going to move to New Jersey and work in payroll. No one they know lives like that.

I really rooted for Harry and Meghan they seemed a lovely match but as times gone on and they left to Canada they have become so tone deaf and I cannot relate to them in anyway.
They are so ridiculously hypocritical ‘we want privacy’ and then they time and design press releases and interviews in an incredibly antagonistic way.
It’s very telling how the American public are rapidly changing their opinion of the couple as well.
I think it’s very sad to say but I doubt Archie or the new arrival will set foot in the UK for a long, long time cannot see it happening for another 4-5 years tbh. Think Harry will come back but alone.

while complaining about invasion of privacy

He had complained about when the press have broken the law to get access to him. That okay with you?

I think they are entitled to put out what they want about their lives.

I also think that the press narrative about how nasty Meghan has stolen him away is ridiculous and they should stop bleating that their (the press's) own behaviour is what has led to H&M not wanting to engage with then directly so they (the press) should get over themselves.

There are very wealthy philanthropists who you never or rarely hear about in the popular media.

I’ve not here bothered enough to be annoyed by either of them much, except when MM was using a flowery language to describe her miscarriage after I’d just had a brutal one with not much care from the NHS and it rubbed me up the wrong way. Not cared about their split from the RF or anything.

But then today, on BBC breakfast, Harry annoyed me by saying Archie’s first word was ‘crocodile. Yah, three syllables!’

And I thought, that is bullshit. Even the presenters after they showed the clip were like

I had no idea he'd done a show with James Cordon. I never hear about any of these things outside of MN.

I'd rather stick pins in my eyes so I won't be watching, but YABU. The other royals are a billion times more hypocritical, they just have better PR and have the media in their back pocket.

Pedo Andrew with his dodgy deals skimming money off PitchPalace, Charles and William setting themselves up as environmental activists while owning helicopters and taking private jets ten times more than Harry, other royals directly financially pimping out their titles waaaaaay more than Harry and Meghan have done, William threatening the press to keep his alleged (lol) affair secret. Charles visiting his dad in hospital when his dad wasn't dying when so many people have had to die alone because their families weren't allowed to visit. All of them breaking Covid restrictions and snubbing the public and the law. Even the Queen and the recent revelations of her manipulation of and influence over the passing of laws to protect her own interests. They all think they are above the law and can do whatever they like the the press cover up for them and pretend they're wonderful for doing nothing.

The RF are vile vile vile. Harry's the only one who's okay and that's because he got out and earns his own money.

I cannot work out why anyone gives a fuck? Just... watch him or don't watch him. Read the stuff or don't. You really have a choice in this.

I haven’t watched anything about Harry in ages so it is easily avoided. I also despise Janes Corden, shouting all the time and making an utter Fanny of himself just annoys me.

The only stuff I ever see or hear about H&M is on MN. It’s really quite easy to not obsess over what they’re up to.

Harry & Meghan do want to be in the media, but they want to control, even censor, what is said about them. They also have the 'do as I say, not as I do' attitude and are utter hypocrites. YANBU, OP.

I don't know what programme posters are talking about here and I won't be watching, but we can't help but come across stuff about them on forums like this, so telling people they should ignore them is easy to say but not so easy to do.

Find a hobby?

I like him. I think the interview with Oprah is a mistake though - whatever he says will be twisted. I thought the palace statement was unnecessarily bitchy and H&M response was appropriate.
He has made some poor choices. He's married a celebrity who doesn't really understand how the monarchy works and it has cost him everything he's been raised to value. But I do consider that his family have handled this badly - it would have been better to keep him close and offer better support.

I think the Towie comparison is a good one actually.

@PicsInRed

Prince Harry married a Black woman.

People racists who like to think they're not got angry.

The end.

Give over

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just makes a mockery of the whole reason they chose to step down. It makes it clear that they don't want privacy, they just want only favourable publicity.

They wanted to step away from being working royals. I believe they should have that choice.

All the picking holes in what they do after that is rather silly. They were never going to move to New Jersey and work in payroll. No one they know lives like that.

Yeah but they made it pretty clear that the reason they wanted to step away from being working royals was because of the criticism from the press, especially regarding Meghan.

I don't defend the press's harsh treatment of either of them or criticism of ridiculous things - like Meghan touching her bump! - but unfortunately it does seem to come with the territory for a few years. I remember loads of hateful articles and comments about Kate after she married William, how she was too skinny, her hair was too long, her skirt was too short, her smile was too fake....she just kept quiet and carried on and it faded.

That said, I don't think anyone should be forced to feel the way I'm sure those articles made all of the royals feel, but equally wouldn't expect Meghan and Harry to be voluntarily entering back into the major spotlight after walking away. They are subjecting themselves to the same thing, except worse now!

but we can't help but come across stuff about them on forums like this

So many threads on here. You didn’t have to click.

Honestly, this whole ‘I am forced to engage with them’ stuff is totally ridiculous.

If you don’t like threads about him on forums, don’t click on them, it’s not bloody rocket science.

He lost me when he started telling everyone what they should do to save the environment while taking private planes here there and everywhere, and Meghan is a social climber as far as I'm concerned. I'm not a fan of either of them.

Suggesting everyone who dislikes Meghan must be racist is just pathetic though IMO, are people only allowed to dislike people of the same colour as them? It's ridiculous.

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

I like him. I think the interview with Oprah is a mistake though - whatever he says will be twisted. I thought the palace statement was unnecessarily bitchy and H&M response was appropriate. He has made some poor choices. He's married a celebrity who doesn't really understand how the monarchy works and it has cost him everything he's been raised to value. But I do consider that his family have handled this badly - it would have been better to keep him close and offer better support.

I think the problem is that Buckingham Palace has very strict rules on how royals should behave and interact with the media.

I totally agree that marrying someone who was from such a different background was always going to cause huge challenges. I can see how Meghan, as an independent mid-30s woman, would not feel comfortable with the rules and regulations, and doubt she would have easily fallen into line with what the advisers wanted her to do/not do. They are very strict about not acknowledging newspaper claims and not responding/hitting out.

I think the fact that she had enjoyed a very different relationship with the media before this - as opposed to someone like Kate, Diana, Fergie etc who only received attention after they were involved with the royals - won't have helped.

@MuddleMoo

Just change the channel or station if you don't want to hear from him. It's what I do with Nick Knowles.

For some reason this made me laugh out loud! 🤣

YANBU, OP and he's up against stiff competition.

I don't defend the press's harsh treatment of either of them or criticism of ridiculous things ... but unfortunately it does seem to come with the territory for a few years.

And I applaud anyone who stands up and says it’s not on.

The way all royal brides have been treated by the British red tops has been appalling.

The press is not one homogenous entity. I’m sure there are many publications H&M feel they can have a respectful relationship with. Just not the ones making out she was a murderer for eating avocados.