AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

[ChocolateSantaisthebestkind]

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

AIBU?

@Sn0tnose

I feel really sorry for him. From the day he was born he’s had to deal with levels of intrusion that are inconceivable for the rest of us. His education, his girlfriends, his friends, his relationship with his brother, his silly mistakes, his grief, have all been scrutinised, debated and criticised in front of the whole country. He’s done loads for mental health awareness and he’s done loads for injured service personnel. He’s married and started a family and are we happy for him? No, of course not. We’ve said horrific things about the woman he loves and mocked the name he chose for his child. Is it any wonder he’s had enough?

And, let’s be honest, he’s not going to be able to live a normal, safe, private life living in a semi detached in reading and working in a supermarket. All of that public interest is still there and now he’s got none of the protection that comes with being a royal. So what else is there for him to do but utilise his fame?

I have to agree with this.

I like Harry and can't blame him at all for what he has done. Media treatment of him and Meghan has been nothing short of disgraceful, and often with racist overtones.

He is stepping back from royal duties. He is still a member of the royal family though. Some people seem to be talking as if he was no longer even related to them, which is bollocks.

He is someone who has been through an extremely hard time. True that many others have too, but Harry has had all of his difficulties paraded in front of the world's media and publicly dissected.

I'm sure he is all too well aware that he can't entirely get rid of the publicity that surrounds him. Hopefully he will be able to use it for good work though.

Leave him alone when he wants to be left alone. Few of us would like our every move to be so publicly scrutinised. Personally, I value my anonymity and don't want people around me unless I invite them in. He doesn't have that choice. I would hate to be living in a goldfish bowl or gilded cage as he and other royals do.

He doesn’t want the responsibility of being an active member of the RF but he wants to exploit the RF for financial gain. And I mean to the tune of $millions. There must be a word for that.

@TheKeatingFive

Don't you think that's more because he never campaigned for the environment before though?

Nope, because Prince Charles has been lecturing in the environment and using private jets for years and no one batted an eyelid.

Good point!

I have to admit Harry has given me quite a laugh over the last year, with his crying and complaining while living the life of a very pampered teenager. Meagan and Harry have been given multiple millions by companies who seem to think they will churn out content that will be good, and what people want. This obviously won’t happen-the whole thing is bizarre. A case in point Shonda Rimes, a creative power house who has made BILLIONS for ABC with excellent programming got £100 million from Netflix, they got the same-how is an entitled idiot, and his not stupid but also not talented wife going to give the same return. I am very much looking forward to what they think is watchable and interesting. I personally think that the Royal family are using the media’s obsession with Harry, and the tone death actions of H&M to keep the scandal of Prince Andrew under wraps. He is just too thick to realise.

@turnitonagain

Isn’t he no longer a member of the Royal Family? Or at least RF Plc

The most tone deaf member is the one who spent years palling around with trafficked teenagers and a convicted paedophile. The second most tone deaf are a tie among those who protected him.

This ^ in spades. I cannot get worked up about Prince Harry when we are still paying for Prince Andrew's security, a man who kept all of his honorary military titles despite being close friends with a convicted paedophile and still hasn't spoken to the FBI FFS.

@Pyewackect

He doesn’t want the responsibility of being an active member of the RF but he wants to exploit the RF for financial gain. And I mean to the tune of $millions. There must be a word for that.

Canny?

@TheKeatingFive

the private jet is a good example

I find it interesting that Harry (like all the royals) has been on many private jets in his life. Yet didn’t get much (any) heat for it until his mixed race wife availed of one too.

Hmm.

I think it's probably more to do with the hypocrisy of telling people we all have to do our bit to fight climate change, and then taking three private jets in four weeks. Travelling back from a climate change conference by private jet didn't go down too well either. There have been quite a few 🤦‍♀️ moments like that.

"He doesn’t want the responsibility of being an active member of the RF but he wants to exploit the RF for financial gain"

Because he can't live on fresh air. Sarah Ferguson was accused of doing the same, but again its not like she could have got a job in Tesco and the media would leave her alone.

I think that he doesn't realise how privileged he is and can't begin to imagine an ordinary WC life. They both need better advise on leaving some topics alone.

I think it's probably more to do with the hypocrisy of telling people we all have to do our bit to fight climate change, and then taking three private jets in four weeks.

Nope. Because Prince Charles has been doing that for years.

It fits in with the general megalomania though so it was a good choice 3 syllables, nature related.

@TheKeatingFive

the private jet is a good example

I find it interesting that Harry (like all the royals) has been on many private jets in his life. Yet didn’t get much (any) heat for it until his mixed race wife availed of one too.

Hmm.

He started getting heat for it when he stepped off one at a climate change event in order to wag his over-used finger at the plebs and their annual jaunt to Benidorm.

The most tone-deaf and hypocritical member of the RF is Andrew. No question.

No amount of money or privilege will protect you from the fear of history repeating itself. The truth is we don’t know the half of it. Instead of forcing his wife and child to go through similar, he chose to leave a way of life that is not only family but a huge part of his identity. I remember watching him walk behind his mother’s coffin and I still feel a sense of national shame.

OP whine away but the self righteous indignation does a poor job mask of masking the rather sad sense of entitlement that some feel towards those in the public eye.

I do hope Prince Andrew is in your worst royal top three.

No, it's Prince Andrew.

I just watched a bit of the show (no idea who the host is). It is quite funny

What @PicsInRedsaid. Leave Harry and Meghan alone.

@TheKeatingFive

I'm happy not to be paying for them anymore and grateful that they have so publicly exposed the fact that we don't really need a royal family anymore.

This

Agree

Harry and Megan are the only relevant ones and the only ones in that family who aren’t hypocrites! I like them. The rest of them can get in the sea.

@Bibidy

I think Prince Harry has always seemed like a nice person, but I do feel their actions over the past couple of years have really put him and Meghan in a bad light.

To walk away from their duties in order to live privately and then do a load of high-profile podcasts, TV shows and interviews just makes a mockery of the whole reason they chose to step down. It makes it clear that they don't want privacy, they just want only favourable publicity.

Also to stand in the middle of some of the poorest people in the world and moan that nobody asks if you're OK is very badly judged.

I think if they genuinely had stepped out of the limelight people wouldn't feel so negative towards them.

@Bibidy well put, that's how I feel about them. I think the latest decision to interview with Oprah is wrong, so won't be watching.

OP, I agree with you but as PPs say the best thing you can do is switch off to it.

Currently the most tone-deaf and hypocritical is the Queen, with her think of others spiel about the vaccines while she sits on a fortune as the rest of us near breaking point after a year of restrictions.

I love Harry

Lol at the hate for Harry, a man who will never have any claim to the throne simply wanting to step down from an archaic tradition.

Then there's Andy. Paedo? There's a good possibility that he is one. He's definitely a arrogant, predatory, paedo-excusing sorry excuse for a human being but let's ignore that, shall we?

I don't think Andrew is tone deaf, I think he is an out-and-out criminal!

What he has done can't even be compared to Prince Harry's choices.

Just piss off and live quietly and stop courting the press you supposedly hate.

This is it for me. Yes, the press are awful. Yes, I’d have every sympathy for them if, like the Duchess of Kent, they decided they wanted to be private people and just bring up their kids out of the spotlight. And - in a few years - people (and the press) would have respected (or at least, got used to) that. They have money beyond most people’s wildest dreams abs could’ve had a very nice, private life.

But that’s not what they want. They want to cash in on the royal connection and be feted for their great charitable works and insights. The problem with the latter is that they have nothing to say that isn’t fatuous - and the problem with the former (cashing in on royalty) is that it goes against the fundamental principle that the Royals aren’t for sale. I felt sorry for them at the start - some of the press was awful and subtly racist. But if they get a clobbering for cashing in on his being HM Queen’s grandson, then they royally (if you’ll pardon the pun) deserve it.

Re the flying, I think it was the unfortunate juxtaposition of telling people how they should behave and then doing the complete opposite straight after. PC tends to go after governments and business, so not quite so starkly hypocritical.