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AIBU to think that Prince Harry is coming across as the most tone deaf and hypocritical member of the RF right now?

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ChocolateSantaisthebestkind · 26/02/2021 09:54

Yes the guy lost his mother in a tragic way at a young age. (So have many) Yes he was forced out into the public eye in the middle of grief (which was horrific at the time and worse on reflection) BUT he is now an adult man with a family and access to life of extreme privilege yet he cannot seem to realise that him publically complaining about his lot in life and telling the rest of us how to behave is distasteful. Also, the petulant way he seems to communicate with the media is just undelining his immaturity and lack of awareness. By which I mean, the potshots in statements and rapping with James Corden and his pathetic man of the people schtick. If you want to be Hazzer give up your title and STFU!

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Sparklingbrook · 28/02/2021 17:19

How about Beatrice and Eugenie? Can they be royal favourites?

Hufflepuffmamma · 28/02/2021 17:27

@PicsInRed

Prince Harry married a Black woman.

People racists who like to think they're not got angry.

The end.

@PicsInRed

Absolutely this. Wether people care to reflect about this or not . It is the truth - he would be getting much more empathy if he had married someone white.
I feel sorry for both of them. I don’t Understand why he can’t want o step back from Royal life and want to remain in the spotlight of his / their own choosing. Lots of people make compost choices to control their own visibility - why not these 2? I think they have been treated awfully and in most part it stems from Megan being black. Sadly not shocking . I think they will do great things. I think they should be seen for what they choose to do, not who we presume we have a right to expect.

What has he actually done that is so awful ?!

SnottyLottie · 28/02/2021 17:52

Before Meghan came along, Beatrice and Eugenie used to bear the brunt of negative press, particularly in regards to their fashion faux pas and Eugenie’s weight. In short, the tabloid press are, and always have been, utter shits.

derxa · 28/02/2021 18:01

@Sparklingbrook

How about Beatrice and Eugenie? Can they be royal favourites?
No I've heard they kill puppies in their spare time.
GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/02/2021 18:12

'I don’t Understand why he can’t want o step back from Royal life and want to remain in the spotlight of his / their own choosing'

Have you read the thread? He can leave of course, yes ditch the boring duty and put himself and his US family first. However it is the criticism of his UK family via Findom Freedom, their childish 'we can all do service ner ner' comments, their constant poor us whines that annoy people.

The racist accusations are baseless. Sarah Ferguson was equally as unpopular with the msm and as snottylottie said Eugenie and Beatrice were mocked constantly.

Haz wanted to be Mr Popular, do as he pleased and they weren't allowed. They now have an axe to grind.

TorringtonDean · 28/02/2021 18:18

Meghan actually seemed the best thing to happen to the Royal Family for a long time when they became engaged. Articulate and polished. Then they just blew it. It was the “nobody asks how I am” interview in Africa which seemed so tone deaf.

studychick81 · 28/02/2021 18:32

'I feel sorry for both of them. I don’t Understand why he can’t want o step back from Royal life and want to remain in the spotlight of his / their own choosing. Lots of people make compost choices to control their own visibility - why not these 2? I think they have been treated awfully and in most part it stems from Megan being black. Sadly not shocking . I think they will do great things. I think they should be seen for what they choose to do, not who we presume we have a right to expect.

What has he actually done that is so awful ?!'

They can do, I don't have a problem with them stepping down from royal life but it jarrs somewhat when they then want to use their name to make loads of money for themselves without giving anything back through royal duties. Meanwhile tax payers are still paying for their security. They want to have their cake and eat it.

They made it worse for themselves with that SA documentary, airing there own problems when they were meant to be there promoting their charity and trying to help some of the poorest people in the world. It wasn't a great choice and made them look very jaded.

They've made it worse for themselves by siting the reasons they want to step back is due to unwanted scrutiny and negative press attention effecting their mental health, but then courting the LA press in exactly the same way that they didn't like in the UK. It comes across as very hypocritical and with a 'poor me' attitude if any criticism comes their way. They don't take the rough with the smooth. Other royals have continuously been slated over the years but have just sucked it up.

Roussette · 28/02/2021 18:37

Meanwhile tax payers are still paying for their security. They want to have their cake and eat it

No. Incorrect.
They are paying for their own security.
Unlike Andrew, another non working Royal, whose security costs £300,000 per year, funded by the taxpayer

studychick81 · 28/02/2021 18:51

@TheKeatingFive

We’ve got a funny relationship with the RF. in this country. Some people think we own them so we have to be party to absolutely everything they do, from birth to death. We absolutely don’t

Yes it’s weird.

On some level I think people see it as the ‘price they pay’ for all that wealth and privilege.

But that comes from the fact that we pay for them. Generally if you do pay for something you do own it. We all pay into the NHS or pay our council tax therefore we expect something back, we want 'our money worth' we want quality. This is the consequence of this for the RF, otherwise, don't take tax payers money, why would we continue to pay for them if they didn't do some service for the country? This is how they keep themselves relevant, they keep themselves popular with some people. If this didn't happen I expect people would want them all to stand back and have our taxes spent on something else. Why would we continue paying for them if they weren't giving anything back at all? That's what's happening to an extend with H&M.
studychick81 · 28/02/2021 18:53

@Roussette

Meanwhile tax payers are still paying for their security. They want to have their cake and eat it

No. Incorrect.
They are paying for their own security.
Unlike Andrew, another non working Royal, whose security costs £300,000 per year, funded by the taxpayer

Ahh I misread, thought that post was about M and H not Prince Andrew.
Samcro · 28/02/2021 18:55

You can't own people.

Roussette · 28/02/2021 19:01

You posted that we are paying for their security.

We arent. I corrected that because it was wrong.

There's enough stuff thrown at them without stuff that just isn't true.

Hufflepuffmamma · 28/02/2021 19:40

I think the premise of this whole thread is a bit odd. But interesting I still don’t understand what he had fond that is so tone deaf etc?? . The only things I know about them is the —bullshit— I see on newsfeeds and in papers/online.
Any positive thing they do is criticised - it’s ridiculous and weird.
It’s usually all negative the stories about them /Harry.

The actual work I have seen them do - has been good and helpful. Meghan was a success in her own right. Harry chose a way that differs from his traditional family expectations ( I mean who hasn’t right ) which has caused some rupturing... if we are to believe what we are fed.

If anyone here knows any of them and wants to shed some light that’s great ! But I’m imagining decent friends wouldn’t breathe a word so..

I think it’s weird to have such strong strong judgements...

I also will stand by the fact forever that racism and racial micro aggression AND unconscious bias has a HUGE part to play in most opinions shared here.

Also have you never disagrees with your more traditional / elderly relatives-and had different ideas about life ?! I mean come on.....

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2021 20:15

I don’t Understand why he can’t want o step back from Royal life and want to remain in the spotlight of his / their own choosing

I still don’t understand what he had fond that is so tone deaf etc??

Maybe the disingenuous among us could try reading the thread where the hypocrisy, self-absorption and entitlement of the sixth in line (who never lets us forget the fact) is explained many times over.

Hufflepuffmamma · 28/02/2021 20:26

So I just had to google disingenuous @CathyorClaire .

Just to confirm - I don’t think this applies to me. I was just offering my perspective . It’s as genuine as ones own thoughts and perspective can be.

Admittedly I may just be a bit thick here in understanding what you mean ?

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2021 20:40

@Hufflepuffmamma

So I just had to google disingenuous *@CathyorClaire* .

Just to confirm - I don’t think this applies to me. I was just offering my perspective . It’s as genuine as ones own thoughts and perspective can be.

Admittedly I may just be a bit thick here in understanding what you mean ?

You asked, I answered.

It looks faux-naive and uninformed to ask why Harry is popularly regarded as tone deaf but in the event you really don't understand a read of the thread will give you an idea.

Roussette · 28/02/2021 20:45

Popularly regarded as tone deaf? What ... by everyone? Don't think so, which is why there are a lot of different posters with different opinions on here.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 28/02/2021 20:49

@Roussette

Popularly regarded as tone deaf? What ... by everyone? Don't think so, which is why there are a lot of different posters with different opinions on here.
And definitely not the MOST tone deaf in the RF.
CathyorClaire · 28/02/2021 20:51

@Roussette

Popularly regarded as tone deaf? What ... by everyone? Don't think so, which is why there are a lot of different posters with different opinions on here.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1394935/prince-william-news-most-popular-royal-family-poll-meghan-markle-harry-andrew-queen
Roussette · 28/02/2021 21:02

A Daily Express 'poll'.... rightio... !

Hufflepuffmamma · 28/02/2021 21:06

I’m
New to
This whole MN thing ( but it is addictive ) even I've learned pretty quick that links to spurious tabloids aren’t a good way to make a genuine point..., @CathyorClaire

I really was just sharing my own opinions I was not tying to emulate or speak of others...

I just really don’t getter strength of opinion on how another person should/can live life or who they are . For all the points I’ve previous mentioned ( which you haven’t responded to yet?)

The irony is that I’m posting in the thread adding to It . But I can accept the irony found here.

MrsMackesy · 28/02/2021 21:06

Have the MM bashers moved on to PH now? I don't get all this need to hate and obsess about the life of anyone, let alone a stranger in the public eye.

Many people who suffer deeply traumatic experiences in childhood never fully recover - it always shapes the people they are and their responses to life. It shows a lack of empathy and even basic kindness to dismiss that so callously about another human being.

We only have to look around us or read 'Stately Homes' threads on here to know it is quite common for families to have severe problems within. I wish him and his family all the best as they move forward in their life - note - their life.

If you don't care about or like him, look away. Not need for all this looking through a microscope at him and frothing. There are better and healthier uses of your time and energy.

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2021 21:18

@Roussette

A Daily Express 'poll'.... rightio... !
Find me one that says different Smile
Roussette · 28/02/2021 21:21

I'm really not interested in googling for polls that say Harry is one of the worst royals according to people that read these papers!.
Didn't know polls like this existed to be honest, it had to be the DM or DExpress.

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2021 21:22

@Hufflepuffmamma

I’m New to This whole MN thing ( but it is addictive ) even I've learned pretty quick that links to spurious tabloids aren’t a good way to make a genuine point..., *@CathyorClaire*

I really was just sharing my own opinions I was not tying to emulate or speak of others...

I just really don’t getter strength of opinion on how another person should/can live life or who they are . For all the points I’ve previous mentioned ( which you haven’t responded to yet?)

The irony is that I’m posting in the thread adding to It . But I can accept the irony found here.

I've learned pretty quick that links to spurious tabloids aren’t a good way to make a genuine point

It's a report on a YouGov poll.

Can you define 'spurious tabloids'?

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