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Piss off, Pam!

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FuckingFabulous · 24/02/2021 12:38

A relative- 'Pam'- has pissed me right off this morning on Facebook (yes, I know, the root of all evil.)

And actually, it's not even just Pam, there are a few of them but she's the worst one!

Basically me and DH are group 6 for the vaccine. Me due to caring responsibilities for our DD and DH due to an underlying health condition. DH got the jab this morning and I reposted an article about how well the U.K. is doing with their vaccination programme and mentioned DH was currently having his vaccine and I'm having mine in a few days.

Straight away, Pam comments "so many young people having their jabs- what magic key have you all got to jump the queue? I'm Over 50 and I work with the public but I can't just waltz in like some! Oh well"

I just replied that I couldn't speak for anyone else but DH and I are in group 6, me for caring and him for health reasons and were invited to book, so there has been no queue jumping, and I realise it's frustrating to wait to be called when there are so many hopes riding on it. She then commented "So because you're a parent with normal parenting responsibilities, you are saying you have got rights ahead of me, a person over 50? Don't make me laugh."
I didn't reply because I was fuming as she knows full well that I have a round the clock caring role for my daughter (and she's a woman who wouldn't even have her own 20yo DD home to recover from surgery as it was "above and beyond" her responsibility ) so I was reeling from the audacity of her! I went to make a coffee and consider my response to her. I was all for politely telling her that she's being judgemental and although she's disappointed, it's not kind to be so dismissive when she's well aware of the difficulties I face at home, but then when I looked again, I saw it had all kicked off a bit!

Pam has posted another comment saying "And what's Mr FuckingFabulous's magic key condition?" Another older female relative chimes in then with a heart reaction and a comment of "I'd also love to know this, Pam! Beggars belief!!" Pam shoots back with "last time I checked, being an idiot wasn't on the list of conditions!" Cue about five laugh reactions from older relatives and comments like "this is why I love you, you say it like it is, Pam!"

DH has ADHD. Not sure if all older relatives know this but Pam, the one who called him an idiot, does indeed know!! I've had to speak to her and her husband before when they both expressed an opinion that ADHD and ASD don't exist and they're excuses for poor performance. And it is not even the condition which entitles him to a jab. Several people have also commented to her and some of the others that their comments are disgusting and Pam has been popping on a copy paste reply of "I am entitled to my opinion - it's a free country still."

So Pam has dismissed my caring responsibilities and taken the piss out of my DH for his ADHD. I have deleted the thread and spoken to my mum about it and she said it's best just to leave it, we don't want bad feelings in the family. Um, what about MY feelings? Or DH's??

WIBU to message Pam and tell her how bloody vile she is?? I should do it to all of them really, but I doubt it would have any impact.

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 25/02/2021 13:22

This is why I can understand why some people who are more at risk could feel bitter and why posting when some of the people will more vulnerable at risk of dying is just not above thing to do.

Then they should take this up with the health authorities concerned. They are the ones who decide on the priority list and send invitations accordingly. Individuals don't make that decision.

I'll be taking up my invitation for a jab as soon as it's offered. As to when that will be, that is someone else's decision. No explanations or justifications on my part required.

Aunty Pam isn't only an aggressive, argumentative twat, but if she's unable to comprehend a simple system like this one she's also stupid as rocks.

BronwenFrideswide · 25/02/2021 13:23

There is a a thin line between sharing good news, which is absurdly fine and posting how you got something others are desperate for themselves but have no control over getting.

The OP and her DH had no control over when they were getting the vaccine either. So what if others are desperate for it, they will get it when they are eligible for it, they just have wait as the OP and her DH did, the roll-out is going to be stopped, they are not going to run out.

Pam and all the others on this thread siding with her or whinging about the OP and her DH getting the vaccines are insufferable twats.

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:23

@MrsKFZeeeeee

My point being *@LouJ85* that when you have people on your FB that have completely opposite views to you, such as Aunty Pam, you just know how she will react Post what you want to on FB, OP should have blocked her ages ago for being rude about her husband if nothing else Jesus wept, it's not difficult 🙄 I repeat, yet again, the more people who get the vaccine the better

Jesus wept 🙄🙄 right back at you.

My point still stands.

SleepingStandingUp · 25/02/2021 13:25

posting how you got something others are desperate for themselves but have no control over getting. I wonder if they're also desperate for my vast £67 a week CA...

dontdisturbmenow · 25/02/2021 13:26

Would you like your children to have her childs disability so you can get a vaccine too?
What has this anything to do with bragging? I have a health condition that noone would envy. It still didn't feel the need to tell everyone when friends more at risk of catching it than me will have to wait months. It's called consideration.

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:26

There is a a thin line between sharing good news, which is absurdly fine and posting how you got something others are desperate for themselves but have no control over getting.

Oh right. That's interesting.

So, last year when I posted my good news about becoming pregnant, was I, in your opinion, right or wrong to do this? Because presumably there are potentially other people "desperate" for a baby, right? Possibly unable to have one, through no fault of their own.

So according to you, I shouldn't have shared my good news then? 🤔

So can you explain exactly what is and is not acceptable to share on my own social media account?

dontdisturbmenow · 25/02/2021 13:29

So what if others are desperate for it, they will get it when they are eligible for it, they just have wait as the OP and her DH did, the roll-out is going to be stopped, they are not going to run out
Absolutely, it is what it is. As said over and over, Pam's reaction was very wrong.

Her reaction and OP's decision to post about it are two different issues.

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:31

@dontdisturbmenow

Can you answer my question about sharing my pregnancy news on my FB? Was I wrong to do this in case someone on my newsfeed desperately wanted a baby? How far should be go with censoring our lives online for others' sake?

dontdisturbmenow · 25/02/2021 13:34

@LouJ85, a pregnancy is a significant life event. Something others care to know about.

Who cares about a vaccination. As said, do people post about getting the flu vaccin? You could argue that you should to encourage take up. You could do so so people know about side effects. Same arguments.

acatcalledjohn · 25/02/2021 13:36

Who cares about a vaccination.

Right now quite literally everyone who'd love to be able to get or give a hug again, meet up with friends and family. Basically everyone who would like some sort of freedom to return.

Fuck me. Is that so hard to understand?

Lockheart · 25/02/2021 13:38

@dontdisturbmenow you keep repeating this over and over so can I please just say that vaccine has an e in it. It's not 'vaccin'.

SleepingStandingUp · 25/02/2021 13:39

Who cares about a vaccination.
Then mentioning it isn't bragging or insensitive is it...

LaMarschallin · 25/02/2021 13:39

@LouJ85

People brag a out everything and Facebook is the lead platform for it! How many posts have we had people saying that they couldn't cope with the perfect life everyone was exhibiting on the platform.

With respect, and I've said this repeatedly, these are people who are choosing to interpret others' FB posts as "bragging". Another person would see no issue with it. This "I can't cope with seeing others' lives on FB" honestly, to me, says far more about that person who can't cope with it, than it does about the person posting it.

Totally agree with this.
lightyearsahead · 25/02/2021 13:39

Absolutely OK to jump up ad down and say yeppeeeee we have had the vaccine.
Why the fuck not!
As for your aunt, well you dealt with amazingly (to begin with) and then you just lost it, I am wavering between did you really have to do that and good on yer! I think I am secretly in awe of you.

Bottom line is you would give everything to be in the last priority group. If your nearest and dearest don't get that, that is very sad.

SleepingStandingUp · 25/02/2021 13:40

@LouJ85 it's MN so yes it would count as insensitive and bragging. Bonus points for mentioning a baby shower and a gender reveal 🤣

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:41

[quote dontdisturbmenow]@LouJ85, a pregnancy is a significant life event. Something others care to know about.

Who cares about a vaccination. As said, do people post about getting the flu vaccin? You could argue that you should to encourage take up. You could do so so people know about side effects. Same arguments.[/quote]

But your argument was "don't post about something others might desperately want but can't have", right?

So a pregnancy could easily come under this category?

ILoveYou3000 · 25/02/2021 13:41

Who cares about a vaccination. As said, do people post about getting the flu vaccin? You could argue that you should to encourage take up. You could do so so people know about side effects. Same arguments.

The Covid vaccine is significantly different to the flu vaccine. Massively so. I'd explain why but feel I'd be wasting my time.

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:41

[quote SleepingStandingUp]@LouJ85 it's MN so yes it would count as insensitive and bragging. Bonus points for mentioning a baby shower and a gender reveal 🤣[/quote]

😂😂

HeadNorth · 25/02/2021 13:41

@dontdisturbmenow Pam obviously cared about the vaccination by the way she went off on one. And so do you, because you have been like a dog with a bone on his thread and clearly have no idea how petty and spiteful your comments appear. Taken as a whole you come across as a Pam-like person. Which is certainly nothing to brag about, on this platform or any other.

dontdisturbmenow · 25/02/2021 13:43

Right now quite literally everyone who'd love to be able to get or give a hug again, meet up with friends and family. Basically everyone who would like some sort of freedom to return
They care to know when they will get it, not when others, who might be less at risk, have done so.

@Lockheart, thanks for correcting me, I won't offend again, especially in FB 😀

AlternativePerspective · 25/02/2021 13:43

There is a a thin line between sharing good news, which is absurdly fine and posting how you got something others are desperate for themselves but have no control over getting. you’re welcome to my heart failure which I had no control over getting. You can get the vaccine then.

LouJ85 · 25/02/2021 13:44

@dontdisturbmenow

You are now totally contradicting yourself.

You said "don't post about things that could upset others because they desperately want it and can't have it".

Then you said "Who cares about a vaccination."

Well, which is it? Do people care about the vaccination or do they not?

AlternativePerspective · 25/02/2021 13:46

@ LouJ85 actually there are people on MN who would say that it’s insensitive to announce a pregnancy because of who it might upset.

I started a thread once saying that I thought my then dh was lovely, and was told that it was insensitive to say that because there were people on MN in crap relationships.

Honestly some people just have to insist that everyone is miserable if they are.

LaMarschallin · 25/02/2021 13:47

dontdisturbmenow

LouJ85, a pregnancy is a significant life event. Something others care to know about.

Who cares about a vaccination.

I guess the Covid vaccination is a significant life event atm.

Much as a smear, mammogram or 'flu jab might have been back in the early days (and pre-SM) of them.

People might still post about their baby having had its MMR as a bit of a milestone, I suppose.

dontdisturbmenow · 25/02/2021 13:47

@HeadNorth, your words, which are quite ironic considering how many times I've said that I didn't condone Pam's behaviour in any way, say more about you than me.

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