To think that the sex of cats is not on a spectrum?

[FindTheTruth]

Just saw this comment in the comments section of Times Article today talking about Play for Women taking taking the ONS to court for redefining sex in the census

Comment:
I thought that it was an exaggeration that there were extremists who denied sex. Then I went to a local meeting about the toilets in our town. Person after person stood up to say that segregating them by sex was wrong because “sex is reductive and must be replaced by gender identity”. My father - a retired vet - got chatting to one of them afterwards and asked if he knew humans are mammals.
“Ye-es,” he said.
“And if you were to get into breeding other mammals as pets - you would know which cat was of the sex class that could get pregnant by observing their sex organs. So you see, sex is not reductive but instead an absolute basic fundamental in the classification of mammalian life.”
His stupefying reply: “sex is a spectrum, so there would be no guarantees. In that scenario I’d buy a group of cats, leave them alone and they’d figure it out. By the way, you sound like a transphobe.”

AIBU To think that the sex of cats is not on a spectrum?

The world has gone mad!!! Unfortunately women will ultimately pay the price of this nonsense.

Ps I hope your dad was ok.

Oh Lordy. You'd have to be as thick as pig shit to believe such bollocks.

Cats are far too sensible to care what humans think about their sex.

I don’t believe that happened, also Humans are a lot more complex than cats.

How are humans more complex in terms of biology?

@donaldtrumpisatwat

How are humans more complex in terms of biology?

More chromosomes for a start.

Cats probably not the best example, as most of them have heen neutered. They could even be considered trailblazers.

YABU to believe that anecdote is true and use it for the basis of a thread.

Fake news and you're not doing the cause any good. Or perhaps that's the point?

Fwr is that way ---->

WTAF! Some people are just so desperate to be woke aren't they.

So could I breed two cats assigned as female at birth by a vet if I left them desexed and together for long enough?

Admittedly I don't (usually) crap in my own garden so I'm more complex than a cat in that regard.

Public toilets are self policing so this is about a social contract which some people no longer want to conform to. Obviously your dad is right and the idea of 'sounding like a transphobe' is vile but if he actually said that he does also sound quite patronising. Difficult not to when people are trying to dress up 'I refuse to accept this social convention even if it makes people uncomfortable because my feelings are more important than theirs' in nonsense about spectrums.

There is actually no way that this happened.

How patronising is your father? And what’s the betting he doesn’t recognise a sarcastic response?

I actually had this very argument (well, I think I used the example of sheep) with some trans rights activists online the other day, so it is plausible.

My female cat 'phantom sprays', where she appears to be spraying like a male cat but with no urine. I've never seen it before but it's known to happen.

@Originalusername2021 yes humans have more chromosomes than cats (humans 46, cats 38)
No this does not affect sexual dimorphism; in both species , the sex you are depends solely on whether you have XX chromosomes, or XY.

Elephants have 56 chromosomes, dogs 78. The XX/XY thing still applies.

Potatoes have more chromosomes than humans. I'd love to know what you think that means for potatoes.

My female cat 'phantom sprays', where she appears to be spraying like a male cat but with no urine. I've never seen it before but it's known to happen.

did you have her spayed? why?

is it possible that you were worried about her becoming pregnant, which would happen regardless of her personality?

*did you have her spayed? why?

is it possible that you were worried about her becoming pregnant, which would happen regardless of her personality?*

Eh? She is spayed, but unrelatedly she engages in behaviour that looks like a male cat spraying urine and has done for years. She litter-mate sister does not.

Why do some people think this didn't happen? What is the outrageous/ unbelievable part? The townspeople claiming that sex is reductive or the local vet pointing out the flaws in the argument?

[quote Evidencebased]@Originalusername2021 yes humans have more chromosomes than cats (humans 46, cats 38)
No this does not affect sexual dimorphism; in both species , the sex you are depends solely on whether you have XX chromosomes, or XY.

Elephants have 56 chromosomes, dogs 78. The XX/XY thing still applies.

Potatoes have more chromosomes than humans. I'd love to know what you think that means for potatoes.[/quote]
My point was that humans are more complex in terms of self awareness and social construct, I was asked how they were more complex in regards to biology. As far as I’m aware potatoes aren’t that self aware - but I will ask one and report back

They would have been better going for the clownfish/bullfrog analogy rather than cats

I've sometimes thought that everybody should be born the same and when you reach 21 (or 18 now) you apply for testicles or ovaries depending on your preference.

On the other point cats do seem to share toilets (or flowerbeds) though!