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MNHQ delete every remotely interesting thread!

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wewillmeetagain · 13/02/2021 11:17

Why do they do this? Ive seen two in the last 24 hours! Nothing remotely insulting, libellous or argumentative on them! It's like the only discussion with which they agree is allowed to take place! I personally think it spoils MN, they will probably remove this discussion pretty sharpish anyway!

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OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 14:16

It’s their wedding. They choose a wedding that they wanted that also incorporated royal traditions

Wow an invite to Balmoral for Christmas

Yes that makes up for turning a blind eye to horrendous bulking and racism levelled at Megan

Maybe she choose not to wear a hat rather than refused ....

OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 14:16

Bulling

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 14:21

@OhWhyNot

It’s their wedding. They choose a wedding that they wanted that also incorporated royal traditions

Wow an invite to Balmoral for Christmas

Yes that makes up for turning a blind eye to horrendous bulking and racism levelled at Megan

Maybe she choose not to wear a hat rather than refused ....

Thats not really how it works when you marry into an institution like the RF! You don't get to "choose" not to wear a hat, you follow the accepted protocol and you just get on with it! Lots of people couldn't cope with living like this and thats ok, but don't marry into it and then start demanding that it should change to fit in with what your idea of acceptable is!
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DrSbaitso · 07/03/2021 14:25

[quote wewillmeetagain]@DrSbaitso inviting her to sandringham for Christmas before she was married, never happened before. The very americanised wedding instead of the traditional royal wedding. There are just two examples! Not saying anything when she deliberately broke protocol such as refusing to wear a hat on an engagement with the queen and yes very wrongly of them in my opinion covered up the bullying accusations against her when they first surfaced two years ago. [/quote]
I'm very sure that I read somewhere (probably as reliable a source as yours) that Kate had been invited prior to her marriage and had declined. Whether this was because she was pushing for marriage or wasn't comfortable and was worried about how it might look, I neither know nor care, but it seems it may not have been quite so unprecedented.

Even if it's true, though...so what? They had her round sooner than usual, what does that cost them? Why is she the bad guy?

Honestly, if you can Google minutiae like hats and Christmas dinner, you can Google all the racist and malicious press she's had. It's appalling. And there is no way it can't have influenced the way the public see her.

OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 14:25

And who does it bother you or the royals themselves

Things have changed. Margaret couldn’t marry a divorcee

Charles was allowed or should that not have been allowed

ilovesooty · 07/03/2021 14:25

@UltraVioletRays

The thread still running at the moment will be deleted soon too because it's been inundated with reports from the usual folk who want every discussion censored.
the usual folk ?
DrSbaitso · 07/03/2021 14:29

I love all the "she married into the institution, she should know how it works" as if Harry was a fabulous example of how to do it before she arrived and clearly loved the job.

OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 14:35

Did you get all angry at the thought of William and Kate’s child being next in line regardless if boy or girl (a huge historical change)

Or is it just the not wearing hats that bother you

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 14:46

@OhWhyNot my point is that if you come into a position within an institution that is a 1000 years old and start demanding to do things your own way, can you blame people when they think you are arrogant? Maybe if she had taken her time to actually fit in and earn her place within the monarchy then she would have been able to make these changes. Can you blame them for not defending her when she just came across as extremely arrogant?

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AlexaShutUp · 07/03/2021 14:47

AlexaShutUp why do you use PA alleged behaviour to deflect from MM alleged behaviour? Two separate issues! We don't know what has been said or done by the palace or the RF behind the scenes regarding PA because they unlike M & H dont go crying to the press every two minutes!

I'm not deflecting from anything, merely pointing out the double standards. I believe that the palace released a statement about the bullying investigation. I don't recall seeing any similar announcements about an investigation of the allegations against PA, are far more serious.

To be clear, I think it's right that any bullying allegations should be investigated. I just don't understand why there appears to be no similar investigation into PA's conduct.

AlexaShutUp · 07/03/2021 14:50

Laughable that the protocol over a fucking hat is being presented as evidence of how supportive the royal family were, while failing to speak out against the racist press is not seen as an issue at all.

DrSbaitso · 07/03/2021 14:52

[quote wewillmeetagain]@OhWhyNot my point is that if you come into a position within an institution that is a 1000 years old and start demanding to do things your own way, can you blame people when they think you are arrogant? Maybe if she had taken her time to actually fit in and earn her place within the monarchy then she would have been able to make these changes. Can you blame them for not defending her when she just came across as extremely arrogant?[/quote]
So as a PP asked, do you deride Charles and Camilla for making a change and doing things his way by divorcing and remarrying another divorced person? Or William and Kate for the fact a change was made to allow their first child to inherit the crown even if he had been a girl?

And Harry, he spent his life before Meghan earning his place and fitting in and never deviating from protocol, did he? Meghan is totally to blame because he'd been such a terrific example?

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 14:52

@AlexaShutUp because the palace as an employer have to investigate the claims of bullying. This is law. The claims against PA are nothing to do with the palace and employment law. As i have previously stated we don't know exactly what has or has not been done or said by the palace about PA because its not been publicised.

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 14:55

@DrSbaitso kate and William didn't make that change, the queen did! Put it another way, if you started a new job and as soon as you started you threw your weight around, refusing to follow the protocol, demanding they change the way things are to suit you better, do you think you would last very long in that employment? Nope!

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DrSbaitso · 07/03/2021 15:01

[quote wewillmeetagain]@DrSbaitso kate and William didn't make that change, the queen did! Put it another way, if you started a new job and as soon as you started you threw your weight around, refusing to follow the protocol, demanding they change the way things are to suit you better, do you think you would last very long in that employment? Nope! [/quote]
She made it because it was clear that the rule was outdated and embarrassing. Hmm. Seems protocol can change. And Charles and Camilla, both divorced? Hats pale a bit in comparison.

Your reasoning for Meghan "throwing her weight around" amounts to a hat and accepting an invitation to dinner. With no acknowledgement of the vile racist background that surrounded it all since the news broke that they were dating.

Anyway, she's left the job. So what's the complaint?

AlexaShutUp · 07/03/2021 15:04

AlexaShutUp because the palace as an employer have to investigate the claims of bullying. This is law.

Yes, they must investigate, but I don't believe there is any law which says that they need to make a public statement about this. The timing of their statement is also interesting, and given that the allegations of bullying have been around for a while, I'm not sure why they have chosen this particular moment to so publicly fulfill their duties as an employer. It's interesting.

And yes, there is no legal requirement for them to investigate PA but there is certainly a moral one, and their silence on this issue is unbelievably tone deaf. The double standards are incredible.

Womencanlift · 07/03/2021 15:05

Away from the M&H/RF topic the threads that I hate getting pulled are those where the OP doesn’t get the response they wanted, goes in a huff and then gets the thread pulled for ‘privacy reasons’.

Those are the ones that are really frustrating

ilovesooty · 07/03/2021 15:13

@Womencanlift

Away from the M&H/RF topic the threads that I hate getting pulled are those where the OP doesn’t get the response they wanted, goes in a huff and then gets the thread pulled for ‘privacy reasons’.

Those are the ones that are really frustrating

I'd agree with that.
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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 15:17

@DrSbaitso The queen and charles and camilla are all far more senior to Meghan, they have all done their jobs well for years and imo earned the right to make some different choices. Meghan has not! Yes she has left now, and is still trading off the royal family!

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 15:18

@Womencanlift

Away from the M&H/RF topic the threads that I hate getting pulled are those where the OP doesn’t get the response they wanted, goes in a huff and then gets the thread pulled for ‘privacy reasons’.

Those are the ones that are really frustrating

Yep the old " privacy" excuse! Code for im getting my arse handed to me and I can't handle it!
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DrSbaitso · 07/03/2021 15:24

The queen and charles and camilla are all far more senior to Meghan, they have all done their jobs well for years and imo earned the right to make some different choices.

Oh I give up. Maybe the hat obsession comes from people not having any forelocks left.

DeeCeeCherry · 07/03/2021 15:26

No they don't. They zap goady racist sexist crap, obviously made up posts, ones where OP is clearly trying to get an inappropriate sexual fetish conversation going. Quite right too or it would all descend into nonsense.

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 15:26

@DrSbaitso

The queen and charles and camilla are all far more senior to Meghan, they have all done their jobs well for years and imo earned the right to make some different choices.

Oh I give up. Maybe the hat obsession comes from people not having any forelocks left.

Thats simply just the way it is! If you don't agree with it don't marry into it, simple really!
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Hobnobswantshernameback · 07/03/2021 15:27

Oh god not another fucking Megan and Harry thread
Just fucking enough

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wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 15:29

@DeeCeeCherry

No they don't. They zap goady racist sexist crap, obviously made up posts, ones where OP is clearly trying to get an inappropriate sexual fetish conversation going. Quite right too or it would all descend into nonsense.
They most definitely do. Unless it's obvious, overt racism, sexism etc who gets to decide what offends one person but may not offend another?
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