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MNHQ delete every remotely interesting thread!

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wewillmeetagain · 13/02/2021 11:17

Why do they do this? Ive seen two in the last 24 hours! Nothing remotely insulting, libellous or argumentative on them! It's like the only discussion with which they agree is allowed to take place! I personally think it spoils MN, they will probably remove this discussion pretty sharpish anyway!

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stampsurprise · 16/02/2021 11:46

[quote breadwidow]@littlepattilou I know what you mean and I think when people emigrate that far, and stay, things are driving them out of the UK as much as stuff pulling them to Australia/NZ. Eg my husbands uncle had a very bad relationship with his mother and I think when the family left England he wanted to put continents between them. The fact my family are all here meant our stint in Australia was always gonna be temporary [/quote]
This was my mother. She was DESPERATE to go there. She emigrated there for a few years when first married and it was easy to go (60s).

She soon wanted to come back. My father didn’t but did as he was told Smile

She was back here a few days and wanted to go back!!!! They had run out of what little money they had by then.

In the following years it got really really hard to get into Oz as an older unskilled person.

She waited for us kids to grow up, divorced my father, went out on a visa, answered a lonely hearts column in the paper, married an alcoholic (she is a strict teetotaller), left him after a year or two and is now out there permanently.

Trouble is, she’s the same miserable malcontent she’s always been. Falls out with everyone. Complains about Oz all the time Grin

Come to think of it, I could probably start a thread about my mother but would end up being accused of being a troll 🤪

SageandBlackPepper · 17/02/2021 13:45

I use Reddit more these days for the same reason - seems that a lot of interesting threads just get deleted or threads are so full of deletions they are pointless. Anything remotely controversial gets takes off.

Borntohula · 17/02/2021 14:01

I commented on a debatably abusive partner one yesterday and got some 'backlash' but didn't get to check all the insults because MN had 'concerns' about the OP. Gutted.

stampsurprise · 17/02/2021 17:57

I like Metafilter for considered replies.

UntamedWisteria · 17/02/2021 18:14

what annoys me is when MNHQ takes down a thread for 'further investigation' and then it never gets restored and you never got told if the OP was troll, or PBP, or anything else....

WhoStoleMyCheese · 19/02/2021 10:16

So much deletion of purportedly ‘goady’ threads... isn’t this what the internet’s for? Also just makes people entrenched in their opinion if everytjing ‘contreversial’’s just shut down
If Reddit has this huge a community of women I’d never be on Mumsnet.

CounsellorTroi · 19/02/2021 10:22

I agree. Was just posting on one this morning when it vanished - due to “not being started in good faith”.

AlternativePerspective · 19/02/2021 10:26

I reckon the “best friend not wanting to be godfather” thread was the same poster as the tom one.

Apparently the Tom poster de-registered before they could be banned so MN had no way of knowing if they were PBP etc... But the writing style of the two threads was very similar, and the poster with the gay best friend started posting at around the same time as the tom thread (and poster) disappeared.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 19/02/2021 12:03

Another one's gone, guy apparently worried 'it'll cause hurt in real life' so MN have agreed to take it down.

WhoStoleMyCheese · 19/02/2021 13:38

@CounsellorTroi was it the benefits one?

CounsellorTroi · 19/02/2021 13:58

@WhoStoleMyCheese yes.

VladmirsPoutine · 19/02/2021 15:14

I think it's a very good thing that they do! Otherwise this site would become the 'Meghan Markle is Satan' site.

likeamillpond · 19/02/2021 15:24

@Aprilx

I have lived in Australia and am a citizen and posted on that thread. I noticed somebody said “I wonder when this will be deleted” and lo and behold.

The message from MNHQ is that something didn’t look right with the OP, maybe so, but the rest of the posts were interesting.

Or someone, poster or someone at MNHQ is Australian and they can't handle anybody criticizing the place. Childish if you ask me. Plenty people have lots of negative things to say about this country and people don't get their knickers in a twist.
likeamillpond · 19/02/2021 15:27

@breadwidow

I was just about to post on that Australia thread. Drafted a long reply and no thread!

So it's below

@thesugarbumfairy I have a very similar experience! Lived in northern beaches of Sydney for just under 2 years between 2005 and 2007. DH was the one driving it (we weren't married then) and he'd rather we stayed but he knew I wanted to go home. To be honest I'd never been motivated to visit Australia let alone live there. I'd always been drawn to countries with more obviously different cultures to the UK for long haul trips and also love Europe. But DH had always wanted to return after doing the working holiday thing when he was younger plus he has close family there who emigrated from the Uk in the late 80s and they've done really well - I think he sees that success and thinks it's to do with Australia. I'd say it's more a combo of luck with timing and talent and could have happened in the uk.

Anyway, things I liked about it: the weather obviously (though sometimes it was too hot it was so nice to have so many reliably warm days, plus the winter is much milder & sunnier), the beaches, the smell of the plants and flowers, the food (can't speak for outside of the cities really but food in Sydney is great).

But on the downside, it is more racist, homophobic and sexist than the uk. Now I know the Uk is not perfect, the BLM last summer really show we have so far to go when it comes to honesty about empire and our racist past. But I think the convo seems even further back in Australia. There is still so much apology and excuses for the way aboriginal people are treated even today. It's pretty shameful. Attitudes to the environment also seem pretty backward - things like using tumble driers when the sun is shining because it's easier without thinking about the energy consumption. For both environmental and more personal preferences I also hated how car reliant Sydney is and how cannot really get around on public transport (it's awful compared to London).

I also worked longer hrs and had less holiday. And though the winter days are warmer the nights are cold and houses freezing as they have bugger all insulation. Winters are also pretty much as dark as the Uk, dark when you get up and when you leave work.

The other thing which I didn't like which surprised me (and maybe only noticed so much because of the work I did there) was how paternalistic/nanny statey some of the govt policies are, especially at state govt level. Many policies brought in as response to an issue seemed an ineffective knee jerk reaction which limited personal freedom but didn't actually work. Road safety has the most pertinent examples - eg cycle helmets are required by law in Australia and though we know that they prevent some injuries numerous studies have shown that they also put people off cycling and that other interventions like segregated cycle lanes and lowering traffic speed are more effective at keeping cyclists safe; when there was a fatal collision involving a young driver in Queensland the state govt made their graduated licence scheme more stringent instead of thinking about why these young people had to drive to get to places that they wanted to go (answer: because the public transport was/is shit - I get that this is a harder thing to change but I couldn't believe it wasn't even part of the debate)

That's is so interesting! It's good to hear the pros and cons.
EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 19/02/2021 16:11

MNHQ won’t say how they decide what to delete
I reported something the other day and got an email confirming it had been deleted, and the reason why.

wewillmeetagain · 20/02/2021 11:05

Lots of interesting ones "gone" again this week! Seems more like censorship that moderating to me! Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong!

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Aunthe · 20/02/2021 11:31

I want to know why innocuous, rather run of the mill, not that exciting threads are deleted. Two months or so into first lockdown there was a short but fab thread on letting your hair go grey. Some posters, including OP put up photos, none of which were the least bit identifying - all very close-up images of hair partings, and a really good before and after post where a poster showed results of using dye strippers.

I bookmarked the thread, returned to it a few times, it was not updated and had nothing contentious, just lots of very supportive chat about going grey.

Finally, getting round to doing something about my hair, months later, gutted to find it had been deleted? Just why, there was nothing contentious at all and no explanation from Mumsnet as to why? Just a deletion message but no explanation. Weird.

KatherineJaneway · 20/02/2021 16:28

@Aunthe Probably someone uploading a picture that's not of themselves.

icanboogieboogiewoogie · 20/02/2021 21:22

But even then, they could just delete the picture, not the entire thread.

KatherineJaneway · 21/02/2021 06:28

@icanboogieboogiewoogie

But even then, they could just delete the picture, not the entire thread.
One thread was started by an OP posting a picture of themselves in a bikini and asking if it was too revealing iirc. It wasn't a pic of the OP, but a pic she'd found on MN and hijacked as her own. Those type of threads will get taken down.
wewillmeetagain · 07/03/2021 12:01

There goes another one! Anything remotely interesting that doesn't agree with a liberal left viewpoint disappears very quickly!

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OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 12:17

Are you complainIng about a thread being deleted because racist comments are made

Should MN allows this

Hmm
AlexaShutUp · 07/03/2021 12:26

Are you complainIng about a thread being deleted because racist comments are made

Personally, I'd like to see the racist comments deleted and called out for what they are, while the overall discussions are left to stand. I'm aware that deletions can make things quite disjointed, but I still think it's better than shutting the topic down. (Different when the OP itself is obviously deliberately goady.)

IMO, we do need to talk about stuff like racism and misogyny, because so many people seem to be blissfully unaware of them. Brushing it under the carpet won't help. Surely it's possible to let the discussions continue while showing a zero tolerance approach for posts which are offensive?

OhWhyNot · 07/03/2021 12:29

I would like that and there are many discussions about racism and sexism

But when there is so many of them directed at one women it’s not the same

And those making comments just step up such is their anger they don’t wish to discuss their intolerance they only wish to project their intolerance

Hobnobswantshernameback · 07/03/2021 12:30

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