MNHQ delete every remotely interesting thread!

[wewillmeetagain]

Why do they do this? Ive seen two in the last 24 hours! Nothing remotely insulting, libellous or argumentative on them! It's like the only discussion with which they agree is allowed to take place! I personally think it spoils MN, they will probably remove this discussion pretty sharpish anyway!

But when there is so many of them directed at one women it’s not the same

And those making comments just step up such is their anger they don’t wish to discuss their intolerance they only wish to project their intolerance

Yes, I take your point. Some posters are clearly more interested in promoting a particular agenda rather than discussing, but I often think that there may be others on a thread/lurking in the background who may actually learn something/reflect on how they have been looking at things. Maybe that's just me being optimistic though.

It is indeed distasteful when so many comments are directed at an individual, but I still think we need to discuss these cases. If we don't talk about individuals, then there is a danger that discussions become hypothetical and a bit meaningless.

@OhWhyNot

Are you complainIng about a thread being deleted because racist comments are made

Should MN allows this

If you and i are talking about the same thread, there was nothing racist on there!

How do issues ever get resolved if adults are not allowed to have a discussion about them? Its like the pathetic cancel culture, they disagree with whats being said so they just delete it! Its a form of control.

If you and i are talking about the same thread, there was nothing racist on there!

If you're talking about the thread that I think you were talking about, there was plenty of racism on there. So we're either talking about different threads, or you're just not very good at identifying racism when you see it.

I do agree, though, I'd rather have the discussion than just delete the whole thing. I do expect racist posts to be named as such and promptly deleted, though.

If you are talking about a couple who shall have an interview aired very soon then there was plenty of racism posted on that thread that was pulled this morning and that is the reason why

Of course many prefer to deny this to support their views

@wewillmeetagain

How do issues ever get resolved if adults are not allowed to have a discussion about them? Its like the pathetic cancel culture, they disagree with whats being said so they just delete it! Its a form of control.

You are allowed to have a discussion about them. Call up your mates and have at it, no-one is banning you.

MN control the content on their platform, however. As do all website owners. If you don't like it your options are either a) set up your own website or b) discuss it off a website.

The thread still running at the moment will be deleted soon too because it's been inundated with reports from the usual folk who want every discussion censored.

@UltraVioletRays

The thread still running at the moment will be deleted soon too because it's been inundated with reports from the usual folk who want every discussion censored.

Exactly this

It is ridiculous to me that MNHQ won’t allow threads discussing what is (rightly or wrongly) one of the biggest international news stories currently!

I personally think it just suits certain agendas to claim racism at every little opportunity!

@wewillmeetagain, I personally feel that it just suits certain agendas to deny racism when it's staring people in the face.

I'm also aware that some people are so heavily steeped in their own privilege that they are simply incapable of seeing the obvious.

I think the problem is with discussions about a particular couple is that their are always a large number of posts and maybe some of those posting are only on here to vent their racist views while probably ranting on DM too

The more interesting debate is privilege and those that can’t see the racism (but why deny it)

@AlexaShutUp

I personally think it just suits certain agendas to claim racism at every little opportunity!

@wewillmeetagain, I personally feel that it just suits certain agendas to deny racism when it's staring people in the face.

I'm also aware that some people are so heavily steeped in their own privilege that they are simply incapable of seeing the obvious.

Ok if its all about racism, why was Diana subjected to exactly the same treatment from the press and the palace?

The latest H&M thread has been zapped. It’s extremely frustrating that, yet again, the people who are determined to shut down reasonable discussion of this couple’s behaviour by throwing around hysterical accusations of racism have won. They do it because they know it works.

The more interesting debate is privilege and those that can’t see the racism

That would indeed be an interesting discussion!

Ok if its all about racism, why was Diana subjected to exactly the same treatment from the press and the palace?

Personally, I think it's about racism and misogyny. The presence of one doesn't negate the presence of another.

I'm no fan of H&M personally, or the monarchy either. I'd like to get rid of the lot of them. I think H&M have made poor decisions, and neither they nor the royal family have come out of this looking good. However, none of that changes the racist, misogynistic nature of the criticism that is leveled at M, and that needs to be recognised for what it is.

Ok if its all about racism, why was Diana subjected to exactly the same treatment from the press and the palace?

Diana had comments made about being "racy" and a "black sheep", did she? About how she would "thicken the watery blue blood"?

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3909362/RACHEL-JOHNSON-Sorry-Harry-beautiful-bolter-failed-Mum-Test.html

Needless to say, this is only one example. There are LOADS more, and they are very easy to find if you really are interested in looking into this with an open mind. Plus many articles showing how Kate and Meghan did the exact same thing (touch bumps, eat brunch, wear a one shouldered dress) and Kate was lauded while Meghan was pilloried. What's the most obvious difference between them? Because the most obvious answer is usually the right one. You think the gutter press and its readers are analysing this in great nuance?

Oh, and when William and Kate were carried on elevated chairs in the Solomon Islands, complete with pictures, look what happened:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2205505/amp/How-Duchess-Cambridge-channelled-Queen-smash-hit-Asian-Pacific-tour.html

Seriously. You people may dislike Meghan, and you do of course know her so well, but how anyone can say that racism had no part in shaping her perception by the public is beyond me. It's like being hit over the head with a brick and not noticing.

@Cavagirl

I usually think I have a decent troll radar but completely believed the Tom one, if that was a troll I think they have serious issues the amount of responses and story development. It's a shame because people are suspicious now of any threads so someone in a slightly unusual situation who genuinely needs help will get treated suspiciously because there are so many of them. I kind of get the funny ones to rile people up and create debate - not my thing but each to their own - but pretending you're actually in danger/ need help/ etc I cannot understand the mentality of someone making that up.

I think it was bloody obvious the Tom one was a troll.

But the problem is on threads like that , troll hunting being banned means that anyone even implying it's a crock of shit as I did, get shot down in flames

@AlexaShutUp ok so if we accept that some areas of media have made racist comments, why are they gunning for the palace? The royal family who welcomed her with open arms and made allowances for her that have never been made for any other female entering the royal family?

[quote wewillmeetagain]@AlexaShutUp ok so if we accept that some areas of media have made racist comments, why are they gunning for the palace? The royal family who welcomed her with open arms and made allowances for her that have never been made for any other female entering the royal family?[/quote]
What allowances are those?

And in terms of why the gutter press do anything, the answer is to sell papers and cause sensation. If they dislike a particular person, it's also to turn public opinion against them.

The royal family who welcomed her with open arms and made allowances for her that have never been made for any other female entering the royal family?

That same family who failed to speak out against the blatant racism in the press directed at M, even though they're happy to speak out when it is directed at random footballers?

That same family who seem eager to investigate M with regard to allegations of bullying (rightly so, imo - everyone is entitled to dignity at work) while conveniently ignoring the infinitely more serious allegations against Prince Andrew?

Sorry, but I don't think they have been supportive or welcoming at all.

Why wouldn’t they welcome her ?

But they certainly have not supported her

@DrSbaitso inviting her to sandringham for Christmas before she was married, never happened before. The very americanised wedding instead of the traditional royal wedding. There are just two examples! Not saying anything when she deliberately broke protocol such as refusing to wear a hat on an engagement with the queen and yes very wrongly of them in my opinion covered up the bullying accusations against her when they first surfaced two years ago.

@AlexaShutUp why do you use PA alleged behaviour to deflect from MM alleged behaviour? Two separate issues! We don't know what has been said or done by the palace or the RF behind the scenes regarding PA because they unlike M & H dont go crying to the press every two minutes!