AIBU to think that Innocent are guilty of online bullying?

[DrudgeJedd]

Over on Twitter, an anonymous troll with 10 followers told Innocent to stop following a woman because they consider that woman to be a transphobe. Innocent agree to do so and also copy the poor woman into their reply so that their 297k followers can have a go at her too. Of course they haven't bothered to reply to all the people telling them that this is shameful behaviour, they're just dull boring women after all.
YANBU - Innocent fucked this one up & should apologize
YABU - public shaming of non-compliant women by Innocent is a good thing
twitter.com/innocent/status/1355090886212923393?s=19

Transphobes*

@FelicityPike

Good on them! The more transphobia that get called out for spouting their vile “legal opinions” the better.

What opinions are those then?

@FelicityPike

Good on them! The more transphobia that get called out for spouting their vile “legal opinions” the better.

Calling out a misogynist for spouting their vile “legal opinions” here - that’d be you, FelicityPike!

Felicity Do you believe it's legal or illegal to say something transphobic? I can't tell from your "inverted" "commas".

The more transphobia that get called out for spouting their vile “legal opinions” the better.

Can you help me out, then? Why is it vile? I assume you think a man who believes himself to be a woman is a woman, and that’s why? So in that case, how does his opinion make him a woman?

What do you consider to be transphobic Felicity?

Women standing up for themselves? Women having opinions? Women daring to voice those opinions? Women not bowing down to our male overlords? Women stating biological facts? Women who understand basic science?

Just wondered. Because it seems to me that it is nearly always women who ate getting called transphobic and it seems to act like a shortcut to 'shut up bitch'.

The more transphobia that get called out for spouting their vile “legal opinions” the better

Gosh yes, bad women for discussing their legal sex based rights and how they are being undermined by others. Tut tut.

Yes, I consider men who are trans to be women. I think they should 100% be able to use female facilities and it wouldn’t bother me one jot if a trans woman peed in the next cubicle to me, I don’t have X-ray vision so I don’t care what equipment she has in her pants!
I also consider trans men to be men and they should be free to use the cubicles in men’s toilets too.
I also don’t consider the personal lives of other people to be any of my business and I think people need to butt out of other people’s lives.

But Felicity how are these men actually women? You have not explained. To me and the vast majority of the planet, a woman is an adult human female - which anyone with a penis is clearly not. Please explain.

And you may be happy to give away your rights to a safe single sex space but you do not get to give away mine or my daughter's.

Yes, I consider men who are trans to be women.

Bloody hell, you think of them as women? Men who are trans identify as men and you should respect that.

How on earth can you talk about transphobia when you think of trans men as women?

The more transphobia that get called out for spouting their vile “legal opinions” the better

Agree
It's insidious.
How is it fine to call out racism/homophobia/sexism but not transphobia?

@DeaconBoo

Yes, I consider men who are trans to be women.

Bloody hell, you think of them as women? Men who are trans identify as men and you should respect that.

How on earth can you talk about transphobia when you think of trans men as women?

Ok fair dues I worded that clumsily. I think trans WOMEN to be women and trans MEN to be men.

What does that word woman mean, I wonder?

Isn’t it funny how those who believe it can be legitimately applied to a minority of the male half of the human race can never actually answer that question?

Quaagars, seeing as Felicity couldn't answer but you think the same thing, do you believe that it's illegal or legal to say something transphobic?

@DeaconBoo

Yes, I consider men who are trans to be women.

Bloody hell, you think of them as women? Men who are trans identify as men and you should respect that.

How on earth can you talk about transphobia when you think of trans men as women?

😂😂😂

I don't agree with your premise that sex is something that someone can simply identify into. Or out of. As the case may be. I prefer to work with fact and reason personally. I agree that other people's personal lives are nothing to do with me. Unless of course their actions impact on me, or the legal position of safeguarding to others. Then we have a problem, which will be challenged, debated and discussed, whether other individuals like that or not.

Bloody hell, you think of them as women? Men who are trans identify as men and you should respect that
How on earth can you talk about transphobia when you think of trans men as women?

Jesus, see what I mean with the twisting?!
Where, just where do you get that?!
The poster said she says men (which is what people on here say trans women are) as women and you do some weird kind of twist as what, to confuse and as a weird type of gotcha?
If poster was talking about trans men, they'd have said so by referring to biologically female, but a trans man.
Twisting.
Bias language etc
always on here, it's getting ridiculous.

Felicity you revealed that you consider trans women to be men. Not 'worded clumsily'. You thought, typed, and posted that TW are 'men who are trans'.
We get deleted for saying stuff like that. For even hinting anything to do with 'men' in the same sentence as trans women.

@DeaconBoo

Quaagars, seeing as Felicity couldn't answer but you think the same thing, do you believe that it's illegal or legal to say something transphobic?

I think it absolutely should be illegal to be transphobic, in the same way being racist, ageist, disablism and sexism is.

@Quaagars

#theyneveranswer

#yestheydo

#butyousoonlearnitsneveragenuinequestion
#soyouthinkmeh
#sodont

how many times have you received patient responses to your dismissal of women explaining why it is not ok to undermine our rights to single sex spaces. There have been countless times haven't there?

So maybe for the sake of argument and clarity you could confirm for us what transphobic opinions you have seen from Maggie or on mumsnet please?

As we have pointed out many many times there are very strict rules on this.

Oh come on, Quaags, even you have got to admit that was a hilarious own goal!

Got time for a definition of “woman”, while you’re at it?

@DeaconBoo

Felicity you revealed that you consider trans women to be men. Not 'worded clumsily'. You thought, typed, and posted that TW are 'men who are trans'. We get deleted for saying stuff like that. For even hinting anything to do with 'men' in the same sentence as trans women.

Well if I get deleted, I get deleted.

Felicity what is it that you consider transphobic? Is it calling TW men?

I think it absolutely should be illegal to be transphobic, in the same way being racist, ageist, disablism and sexism is.

But you’re being sexist yourself, Felicity. Shall I try and have you arrested?

Quaagars, no offence but I've had to explain several times my meaning to you. You didn't understand why using 'men' meaning 'cis men' didn't include 'trans men', so I'm not going to spend more time explaining why 'men who are trans' means trans men.