To start a new conspiracy theory thread

[Sbowiegirl]

Loved the last one!

Ohh I'm a nut case. I'm going to stamp my feet and tell you how offensive that is because I've been chucked on heavy duty SSRIs again this week.

But I won't, because I'm not arsed and don't take anonymous forums that seriously.

I can imagine organising a hit on Diana and her wealthy, well connected boyfriend would take weeks of careful planning and a highly specialised team of experts. Diana and Dodi had been casually seeing each other for a matter of weeks and she told her friends it was just a fling. Any love story that exists about the pair was happily manufactured by Dodi's father, the same person that has pushed the whole "assassination" theory ever since.

I can't imagine MI5, Prince Philip or whoever, assembling a crack team just to bump off a pair of bored, rich people having a holiday romance.

Don't be too sure. The MI5/6/72 can make anything happen at any time. Not saying they had her killed but seriously, they can do anything. Although they're supposedly more transparent now. Which means that they aren't but it's a nice sound bite.

I absolutely don't believe the official narrative of 9/11. I'm not sure exactly how far down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole I am, but as ludicrous as I think "the planes were holograms" and "no-one died on 9/11" theories are, I also think it's ludicrous to think those three towers collapsed like they did without any aid of demolition techniques. Partial collapse or an asymmetric collapse, yeah, OK. But
that's not what happened. Nothing about those collapses makes sense.

The rest of it I'm varying degrees of on the fence about. The phone calls from the planes, the lack of footage of hijackers and the Pentagon, all the coincidental military hoo-haa going on. I'm just convinced that there is something we are not being told.

Personal theory... the attack was known about and allowed to happen. The WTC had become a huge financial headache with regards to falling tenancy, inefficient and expensive heating and power, and needing to remove asbestos at an prohibitive cost. The building work taking place in the central column in the months before the attack was to set demolition charges. So on the day, the planes hit, then later the buildings were taken down by demolition. Didn't have to be perfect, just had to get the job done. The problem of the outdated, expensive towers was gone, the US gets huge worldwide sympathy and support for war in Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11.)

Do I think it's abhorrent that this theory means the US government was complicit in the direct and indirect deaths of tens on thousands of its people? Absolutely. Do I think they are capable of it? Absolutely.

@bottleofbeer - I didn't call you a nutcase, I said it was a nutcase theory, which it is.

Fair enough. Show me empirical proof that all humans evolved from the same species of homosapien because my tutor couldn't.

All theories need to be rigorously tested yes? Until you do that then you can't call it a nut case theory.

Incidentally, there is a homosapien we can't identify yet.

Anyway, most rh- can be traced to the Basques.

We are said to have lower body temperatures (mine is 35) often left handed (we don't know why that happens either, theories but no proof yet) pale skinned.

I'm just pondering the little differences but none of that is really important. What is important is that I donate blood regularly.

Fpurplea Look into the Brady Bonds issued by Bush Senior that were due to be paid back on September 12th 2001.

So on the day, the planes hit, then later the buildings were taken down by demolition.

That's just stupid. Why on earth do you need to fly planes into a building AND blow it up? Either planes fly into the WTC and take it out, and you blame the terrorists. Or you blow the place up, and then blame terrorists. Why would you take on the risk of setting demolitions and then getting found out if you knew the things were going to go anyway?

The conspiracy goes that the planes hit and they were the reason the towers fell when in fact, they fell due to controlled demolition.

@MistressoftheDarkSide

Perhaps derailing a smidgen but last night, thinking about the economics of the world, and the advances in technology, I actually felt a bit freaked out.

For context, I am 52. My Nana had a boiler and mangle when I was in my teens, and we acquired a landline when I was 13. My separated Mum and I were living with my Nana, and I was 8 or 9 when my parents split. My Step Dad worked for House of Fraser in the warehouse, so was able to introduce us to Betamax and get me a Walkman when I was 14 - it was a brick in comparison to modern stuff, but seemed like privileged witchcraft at the time. During O levels my school got BBC computers, which my mother dismissed as a flash in the pan. Home computing was a flash in the pan. Hilarious to think she died at 76 with full silver surfer status last year.

But thinking about all this gave me a bit of a wobble. It seems that the world capitalised on advances made after and due to WW2, and then in the 80s and 90s onwards it's gone nuts.

I'm not scientifically minded but have been able to hold my own, now, maybe due to the slowing of age, I feel boggled by every advance and concept .... I can't keep up.

My relevance in this thread is to ask.... so, are we getting tech from other outside (?) Sources, or are we just becoming that damn clever as a species.

Forgive me, I'm half a bottle of Baileys down, listening to the music of my youth, having rage cleaned the kitchen due to tech fails in trying to access business lockdown support forms .... dont, just don't...... and wondering wtf is really going on with the world right now lol.

So, where does the exponential progress in the world come from really? Are we very clever monkeys, or have we had help? I'm sure I'm not the only doubting Thomas here, so if you have links to any theories, outlandish as you liken I'm open. Maybe I will write that novel after all.....

rapid advances in technology have always been the case, when one thing being discovered or invented leads to something else , biggest one is microchip technology mixing with screen technology and widespread internet use allowing us all to share and collaborate better speeding up new tech developments. Real theory for me is the Gods (of all persuasions) were aliens who came here and ruled for millenia then either died out or left , leaving behind their stories , stone structures and some hybrid humans,

I don’t automatically discount conspiracy theories. It depends what it is and who is the one explaining why they believe it. My late uncle worked for many years as a high up official at the UN. He told us that he believed that 9-11 was an inside job and what he said did make sense.

I don’t know, and I’d prefer not to believe it. But it was very convenient for Bush, who used it as an excuse to invade Iraq.

OTOH, my uncle was also openly anti-Semitic, so the idea that it was a worldwide Jewish conspiracy was obviously appealing to him.

He also believed that the truth had been hidden concerning the assassination of JFK, a conspiracy I had heard about before.

So basically I do listen to conspiracy theories. The majority are ridiculous tripe, like Covid being a hoax, which I believe is popular simply because it would mean that the public health messages could be ignored. Hence why QAnon followers are refusing to wear masks.

So, where does the exponential progress in the world come from really?

The greatest accelerants to progress are advances in communication because that is how we share knowledge and how we collaborate. Language, writing, the printing press, the steam engine, telegraph, telephone, radio and television are some of the key inventions that have significantly increased our ability to share knowledge either over distance, or through time or to wider audiences.

The Internet makes all prior advances in communication combined pale into insignificance. We are no longer limited to one-to-one or one-to-many communications and distance is irrelevent. Just about everyone now has near instant access to the entirety of human knowledge and can share their ideas with the whole world in real time and get instant feedback and discussion. The human race is now one great big supercomputer.

My blood type is O-, which means I'm descended from a union between a human woman and an angel, according to some blog I once read.

The Titanic didn’t hit a iceberg. Passengers reported explosions and fires in the hull.

Goodness, I’m A-, left handed, green-eyed and watches always stop on me. I’m a little (ok very) disappointed I haven’t been abducted by aliens yet....

I'm A positive blood group , about the only thing that is about me!

I just love this thread!

How about GRACE KELLY!
Did someone tamper with the brakes? Was Stephanie driving the car?

Back to Madeleine McCann...Medium friend reckoned it was Mrs McCann who accidently killed her. Would like to read what the Portuguese detective wrote. It's just such a sad tale. The McCanns' have and always will SUFFER greatly.

@KrisAkabusi

So on the day, the planes hit, then later the buildings were taken down by demolition.

That's just stupid. Why on earth do you need to fly planes into a building AND blow it up? Either planes fly into the WTC and take it out, and you blame the terrorists. Or you blow the place up, and then blame terrorists. Why would you take on the risk of setting demolitions and then getting found out if you knew the things were going to go anyway?

Being incredibly stupid doesn't stop most conspiracy theories

Thanks Copper whenever I think about that case I feel nothing makes sense, like no explanation will make me think "yes I think this must be it".
The image of the two trained dogs going crazy in that room will always haunt me.

As for WTC , highly doubt the US government knew and kept quiet to justify the war in Iraq, so many innocent people have died that day.

Has your friend gone to the police with that theory?

Afternoon 😊 Thanks for the replies to my ramble which make lots of senseof sense. I think I had one of those moments when I just realised the sheer size and scale of the world and just how complicated and interwoven the infrastructure has become, probably brought on by my personal world being currently so restricted if you see what I mean. I had similar when I realised how tiny the world is in relation to space. And when you factor in it's most probably all due to a random cosmological event billions of years ago, yet we are evolved enough to analyse and investigate it all, it's no wonder we kind of want it to be something more meaningful or essentially supernatural.....hence philosophy and "why are we here" questions throughout history.

I suppose it can also be a bit baffling that we can advance so much so quickly in some respects, but our collective ability to screw things up over and over again in other areas contradicts our alleged level of intelligence as a species.

Anyhoo, thanks for indulging me lol.

On the subject of 9/11 it seems that the towers were re-insured shortly before the attack with specific clauses to cover terrorist activity. Normal practice or insider knowledge?

@AlternativePerspective

eh? Even if this wasn't 100% bollocks (it is), they are still brothers.

No, they would be half brothers, meaning that the only royal Harry would be related to would be William, therefore he wouldn’t officially be a royal.

If e.g. any other ex remarried and had children with someone else, e.g. if Sarah Ferguson had had more babies, those babies wouldn’t be princesses because they wouldn’t be royals, even though they would have half sisters who were.

If Diana had been pregnant at the time she died, her baby wouldn’t have been a royal baby.

“Half” siblings are still siblings.

@Hammonds

The Titanic didn’t hit a iceberg. Passengers reported explosions and fires in the hull.

This intriguing documentary on the Titanic, removed by YouTube but now available on Bitchute, discloses many pertinent facts.

www.bitchute.com/video/CGZIh9R0OiaI/