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Sbowiegirl · 28/01/2021 16:38

Loved the last one!

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Wagsandclaws · 28/01/2021 18:24

Wayfair was weird, I'm not convinced that it was anything to do with child trafficking but there may have possibly been some kind of money laundering going on. 🤷‍♀️

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 28/01/2021 18:25

I heard that his wife is convinced he committed suicide and is unhappy about the theories.

We have no way of knowing, though, whether that's her genuine belief or the message that she's been told to promote publicly if she doesn't want to end up the same way.

That's the thing with a lot of these: IF governments were plotting evil nefarious deeds, they'd be very unlikely to come out and say "OK, fair cop" when challenged on it. You'd expect them to lie and use threats and intimidation wherever possible and necessary to maintain the secret. The Diana inquiry, for one, was never in a million years going to publicly reveal that they'd found evidence that one of the royals planned it all, regardless of whether it was 100% a genuine accident or cold-blooded murder.

GwendolineMarysLaces · 28/01/2021 18:25

Russian bots start threads on social media asking people which conspiracy theories they believe in. This then provides an easy platform to spread fake news and propagate ideas about children in wardrobes and the New World Order.

Absy · 28/01/2021 18:27

@Absy

I have relatives in Georgia, one of which started posting stuff about the plandemic video. At that point I cut contact because I just couldn’t deal with it.
What killed me (because it was just SO stupid and US centric) was that she put forward the idea that it was all a conspiracy to stop Trump from winning the election, and the whole thing would disappear on November 4th. Given my SIL was very sick with it at the time I was just like “fuck it.”
TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 18:53

Latest Maxwell docs available: www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuffre-v-maxwell/?page=7

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 18:55

Pages from Ashley Biden's 2019 diary released: nationalfile.com/full-release-ashley-biden-diary-reveals-child-sex-trauma-drug-abuse-resentment-for-joe-whistleblower/

rosetylersbiggun · 28/01/2021 18:57

Do you follow the painstaking and detailed work of retired police officer Dave Paulides on his Canam Missing Project YouTube channel? He offers no theories, conspiracy or otherwise, but factually presents thousands of fascinating unexplained case histories of missing persons, mainly from US National Parks.

David Paulides, the creator of the organisation "NABS" the "North American Bigfoot Search"? The same David Paulides who has published two books and numerous blog and postcast entries about Bigfoot, and another seven books about how there's a vast government conspiracy that goes "beyond the known world" linking all the missing people?

The whole "people going missing in national parks" conspiracy theory is a prime example of something with a perfectly logical explanation being pushed to the limits of rationality.

There are 63 National Parks in the USA, comprising hundreds of thousands of square miles of some of the roughest and more desolate terrain. spread out across an entire country. Collectively they receive 330 million visitors per year, and a hell of a lot of those 330 million are not experienced outdoorsmen and women. The number of people who have gone missing while inside one of the 63 parks across the US is not an excessive number, considering the vast geographic area involved. Remote wilderness is dangerous. You have to know what you're doing and be prepared, and many people simply are not.

One of Paulides' pet "mysterious disappearances" was actually solved years later. The missing guy's body was found in a pile of rocks and boulders, at the base of the cliff path he'd been running on when he vanished. He was less than 2 miles from the last spot he was sighted. He'd simply fallen off the cliff and his body had landed in an inaccessible spot where he couldn't be seen from the path.

Occam's Razor: most people who vanish in remote wilderness either got lost and died from exposure, had an accident like falling over a cliff or into a river, possibly some are animal attacks, probably some are suicides. Maybe some are murders but individual murders (guy convinces his wife to go camping somewhere remote, pushes her into a ravine, reports her missing, collects the life insurance and marries young mistress) not killings that are part of something bigger.

I love reading these stories too - I live on Unresolved Mysteries. But to me the human psychological need to see connections and to want random horrible things to all be part of a master plan is far more interesting than killer Bigfoot.

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 18:58

List of updated resignations (corporate etc) www.resignation.info/list

ImAncient · 28/01/2021 19:00

I’ll say it again. Diana was an accident. Bit messy to try & kill someone on foreign soil I’d have thought. You’d have to all the medical staff involved as well. And it wouldn’t have been the royals anyway. Secret service - I could possibly believe that. But I don’t think she was a danger to anyone. Her & Charles were apparently getting on better. Why risk all of that & make her into a sainted figure. Which she most certainly wasn’t.

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:00

Hillary Clinton fbi docs: vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

EmmanuelleMakro · 28/01/2021 19:01

Ooooh thanks OP! Was up half the night reading the other one sobarely functioning this morning Grin but loved the discourse!
If @WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll is on here - nothing to add to the thread but you have the best username Grin

Hammonds · 28/01/2021 19:01

Yay! I was looking for the new thread! Grin

Nazi scientists is fascinating. Yep they were spirited to US to start NASA. I watched a fascinating show that said Hitler took lots of ancient Hindu texts and tried to create a alien ship from it. The scientists were supposed to have had their hands on alien intelligence and that’s the reason why they were years ahead in advancement - I’m not surprised they then went on to start NASA.

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:01

JFK releases: www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32403785.pdf

SoDiorDarling · 28/01/2021 19:03

@TravellingTilbury I'm pretty convinced you are my mum Grin

Hammonds · 28/01/2021 19:03

[quote TravellingTilbury]Hillary Clinton fbi docs: vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton[/quote]
I’d be careful with any HC files. I was up late one night going through the wikileaks ones and there was a horrible disturbing picture in there of a child. I was disturbed for days.

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:03

9/11 docs: archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201

All articles sourced and shared in good faith.

LetItGoGo · 28/01/2021 19:05

The German scientists were using Hitler's Hindu what for a what?.

That is a joke, right!?

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:06

[quote SoDiorDarling]@TravellingTilbury I'm pretty convinced you are my mum Grin[/quote]
Ha! She sounds... thorough?!

Lexilooo · 28/01/2021 19:12

How about another Royal one? Was Queen Victoria actually illegitimate?

She was definitely her Mother's daughter, but was her father really The Duke of Kent?

He was in his 50s and in poor health by the time Victoria was born. Could his young wife have conceived a child with another man? It was a race to secure the succession, and the pressure to produce an heir was huge.

Why is this theory considered? Well Queen Victoria was a carrier of the Haemophilia gene, which had not been observed in her parents families before, the Duke of Kent had many illegitimate children before her and none of them or their descendants have haemophilia either. Further the Hanoverian royals suffered from porphyria, a genetic condition, but none of Victoria's children or grandchildren children did.

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:16

Unclassified US Transcriptions (53) re: Russia investigation, including Podesta interview etc: www.dni.gov/index.php/features/2753-53-hpsci-transcripts

BPCoveredInSpots · 28/01/2021 19:33

No-one’s mentioned the one where Jim Morrison didn’t actually die, he reinvented himself as Barry Manilow.

Some believe that Beethoven was black.

There was a theory that octopuses are actually aliens.

Does anyone remember the epic threads on satanic imagery in music videos? Or the ones where a young earth creationist was arguing his point using the bible as evidence?

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:40

Regarding the horrendous (alleged) cover ups of abuse of children in Hollywood, an actor called John Paul Rice has posted testimony online (it is still on youtube). Please be warned, it is traumatic to hear about and, naturally, should only be watched with discretion. (The video is of him talking to camera very sensitively and articulately.)

Hammonds · 28/01/2021 19:40

@LetItGoGo

The German scientists were using Hitler's Hindu what for a what?.

That is a joke, right!?

Hitlers Hindu? Grin

www.sanskritimagazine.com/history/hitler-nazi-germany-found-treasure-trove-ancient-knowledge-india-tibet/

There is quite a bit out there but this in a nutshell

TravellingTilbury · 28/01/2021 19:44

I find Tesla fascinating (and don't yet know as much as I'd like to) but these FBI docs have provided another treasure trove of letters etc including alien claims amounts other things: vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla

covetingthepreciousthings · 28/01/2021 19:47

There was a theory that octopuses are actually aliens.

I think I could believe that, there does seem something other worldly about them and they are so intelligent.